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Topic: [coffee] Re: +vacuum savers (8 msgs / 176 lines)
1) From: Rick Farris
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Not to be contentious, John, (after all, we're a much gentler, kindler
group, now that Jane has straightened us out on how to post) but I've
plowed through all the rest of the "vacuum savers" thread, and noticed
that no one corrected your claim that there is a difference in the
amount of vacuum that the different models (of Tilia) will pull.
That is incorrect.  They all pull the same amount of vacuum.  At various
points in the product line the vacuum pumps and the thermal sealing
strip become "beefier" so that you can seal more often.  For the 1050,
like I have, the limiting factor is the thermal sealing strip which can
only be used once every 30 seconds.  At least in my usage.  I suppose
that if I was sealing a large quantity of quart jars I might run into an
overheating pump.
The most significant price-point in the Tilia line (for us home
roasters) is the one where the vacuum port appears.  I don't have a
current product line in front of me, but it's usually around 1000.
Without the vacuum port, you can't get the mason jar adaptor and after a
while, the bags get expensive.
As you go above the model #1000 level, you get additional options like
more control over how long the heat sealer seals and internal storage
for a roll of bag material and a built-in cutter.  As well as the
beefier components I mentioned earlier.
Personally, if I was on a budget, I'd get the cheapest machine that had
the vacuum port.  That's generally somewhere around $70 - $90 and
appears at CostCo or some other warehouse store.  If I was not on a
budget I'd jump to the "Professional" which can be had for around $200
if you buy it right.  10% or 15% more, if not.
N.B. Within a "hundred" (like 940, 960, or 1050, 1075) the differnce is
generally the accessories that come with the machine.  I bought the 1050
at CostCo and got a whole slew of containers and bags.
-- Rick

2) From: Rick Farris
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Ok, I just checked the Tilia website.  Here's a condensed version of the
chart available   here.
 
Vacuum Port: 300 series, No.  All others, Yes.  Must have!
 
One touch operation: 300 - 799, No.  All others, Yes.   Very Handy.
 
Instant Seal: 300 - 599, No.  All others, Yes.  Very Handy, but not for
typical coffee roast sealing.  Really handy if  you're trying to seal
something that has more liquid than you thought, or, say, a cake.   :-)
 
Automatic Lid locking: Not important in my estimation. I never use it.
 
Obviously there are other categories on the chart.  Follow the link
above if you'd like to see them.
 
So, my recommendation would be the 400 series for coffee sealing on a
budget, the 1050 or 1075 from CostCo for the best "value for money," or
the Pro II if you really want to go top of the line in a general purpose
sealer.
 
-- Rick
 

3) From: John Abbott
Well go beat up Mike McKoffee - He's the one that convinced me 1) to buy
mine  2) that there was a difference in the atmospheres.     And Being
an officer in the Curmudgeon Corp I'm entitled to my opinion and facts
have never been a good defense and I try never to be Offense-ive. 
JS - General Curmudgeon 
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4) From: Bill Martin
All have the vacuum port and will seal your own jars, except the 450, 
the lowest of the line.
bill
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5) From: Rick Farris
Mike is responsible for quite a few of the Tilia purchases around here.
Being a simple enlisted man in the Curmudgeon Corps, I generally see a
good offense as the best defense.  :-)  That's what lets you ociffers
keep your hands clean!
-- Rick - MSGT Curmudgeon

6) From: Bill Martin
Sorry...  haven't had enough coffee.  I was working from, damaged 
apparently, memory.
Pay no attention to me... its still early morning out here in the 
middle of the Pacific.  Not enough caffeine yet.
Bill
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7) From: peter zulkowski
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My Tilia has a vacuum port, and I just ordered some jars from SM.
Thanks to everyone for your help in how to work this thing :)
PeterZ
Still acquiring coffee toys, here in LHC
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8) From: Ben Treichel
Hurrah!!! After 2 years the jars are gone!! ;-)
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