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Topic: New Mazzer (12 msgs / 201 lines)
1) From: Brian Hyde
Has anyone seen the new electronic Mazzer Mini ?  It has a doser that 
looks suspiciously like an invention of Gin's.  But, neither here nor 
there this will definitely be the grinder that suits both the people who 
like the doser idea, but also don't like the idea of the ground coffee 
sitting in the chamber.  

2) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
On Feb 7, 2004, at 5:10 PM, Brian Hyde wrote:
Whow!  $850 for 58 mm burs, 1/3 hp, and 20 pounds.  That is a lot of 
extra money for a smaller doser.
Jim Gundlach

3) From: Brian Hyde
$600 with tax and shipping.  But how big of a doser do you need?  I 
figure hit grind, get exactly a double basket full (since it's 
adjustable), and brew.  Why a bigger doser?
I thought the point was that most people took the doser off?

4) From: Dan Bollinger
My thoughts exactly. the eMM is a single doser by design. Take off the hopper
and it would be just about perfect.  :)
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5) From: John Blumel
On Feb 7, 2004, at 7:06pm, Brian Hyde wrote:
What I have heard of the MMe, going back about a year (I think), is 
that the dosing mechanism is not that accurate.
This isn't surprising, if you think about it, since it must be 
estimating the time, perhaps taking the grind setting into account, it 
takes to grind a specified amount of coffee. Given the variation in 
bean size, density, oiliness and maybe other factors, one would expect 
that the amount of coffee ground in a certain amount of time could vary 
Maybe they've improved it since I first heard about it -- I haven't 
really seen much about it lately -- but, unless they have, you may not 
be happy with the results for the price.
I like the doser on my MM because. Wouldn't think of taking it off. 
But, this is a bit of a religious issue, I think.

6) From: John Blumel
On Feb 7, 2004, at 7:19pm, John Blumel wrote:
That should be, "I like the doser on my MM because I don't have to tend 
it while it's grinding."
BTW, just for the record, I weigh and grind a single dose at a time, 
have the switch model, brush the grinds out of the shoot and into the 
bottom of the doser, and don't really find any of this to be annoying.
John Blumel

7) From: Michael Guterman
I may be mistaken, but I thought that the eMini had the big (64 mm) 
burrs in it.  I know the coffee that goes through my plain old Mini is 
constantly complaining about being underprivileged.

8) From: Brian Hyde
LOL.  Yep you are right, the burrs are 64 mm.  I have been using the MM 
with the doser in on.  I find it to be no problem to put in the beans 
that I now will make the amount of espresso or coffe that I am going to 
consume at the moment, grinding it all, and the sweeping it out.  I'm 
not sure how well this new one would work.  Hmm... I would love to have 
both to test which I would like better...
Michael Guterman wrote:

9) From: Dan Bollinger
I'd heard that the MMe wasn't a timer machine, but that it had a sensor in the
funnel that measured the amount of coffee going past it. That would explain the
coily cord going to the funnel. A timer machine wouldn't use that.
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10) From: Brian Hyde
Nice point.  I didn't think about that.  I thought it was weird that 
they put the controls on the lid to the hopper.  It's certainly not as 
aesthetically pleasing that way.  I was thinking that it would have been 
much nicer to have had the buttons on the body of the machine.  
Dan Bollinger wrote:

11) From: John Blumel
On Feb 9, 2004, at 10:18am, Brian Hyde wrote:
The controls (membrane pushbuttons) for single, double & manual dosing 
are actually on the dispenser lid (not the hopper lid, although, Brian 
probably meant the dispenser), which explains what the "coily cord" 
into the lid is for. I think they put them there because there wasn't 
really any other place to put them that would make them easy to see and 
use. I haven't seen anything that would indicate that there is a sensor 
in the dispenser that somehow measures the grounds, rather than a 
simple timer mechanism that is adjusted via the screws under the 
One thing I hadn't realized is that the portafilter 'fork' is designed 
to hold the portafilter unattended so you can (theoretically, at least) 
push the button and do something else while it is grinding. Of course, 
you still have the issue of the grounds left in the chute -- do you 
leave them there and end up using them in your next shot, perhaps many 
hours later, or do you take the lid off and brush them out? (There is 
also, apparently, a screen, which can be removed, covering the chute 
Of course, all of this is just speculation over whether the additional 
cost really buys the convenience it promises. What is really needed is 
a comparison by someone who has actually used both. Short of that, the 
best strategy might be to buy both and return one.
John Blumel

12) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
The electronic model was targeted toward small shops where leaving 
espresso unattended is desirable. (Too many leave espresso quality 
unattended too!) I tried one out and thought it was "nifty" but I 
really dont think it justifies the cost. A friend bought one for a 
shop and I think he wishes he had chosen the manual or timer model...
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