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Topic: advice needed: Zass 169 or Turkish Mill (16 msgs / 311 lines)
1) From: Felix Dial
I'm suffering from grinder envy. If I had the money I'd buy a mazzer mini,
but I don't.   I'm considering getting either a  Zass 169DG or the Zass
Turkish Mill http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.zas.shtml).Presumably, both have the range to grind fine enough for espresso and coarse
enough for press.  The only differences I see are size (turkish mill smaller
and therefore more portable), the 169 has the neat little drawer into which
the grinds fall, and the not so important $5 difference in price.   B/c of
the smaller size, maybe it's more work to grind in the turkish mill than the
169?  Is 'adjustment float' more of an issue with one model vs. the other?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

2) From: Ben Treichel
Felix Dial wrote:

3) From: Felix Dial

4) From: Ben Treichel
I have a zass, I've never regretted it. The turkish grinder is exactly 
for that purpose and not much adjustment.
Felix Dial wrote:

5) From: Johnny Kent
At 12:32 AM 2/8/2004 -0500, Ben Treichel wrote:
Hi Ben,
 do you have the zass turkish? your experience seems different to Tom'shttp://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.zas.shtmlre zass turkish:
"The grind is fully adjustable for anything from French Press to Filter
Drip and finer"
I don't have experience with the turkish myself only the 151 but I am
interested in the turkish.

6) From: miKe mcKoffee
I have the Zass Turkish for travel. Takes about 5 to 6min to grind 32gr
(filled heaping so the dome just goes on) for press pot. I used Bill's (in
Hilo) I don't know which model, mucho faster. Smaller beans seem to grind
faster in the Turk' than larger beans BTW. I wouldn't suggest the Turk' for
daily use.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
MCSE (Maniacal Coffee Systems Engineer/Enthusiast;-)
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm

7) From: javafool
I agree wholeheartedly with MM. The Turkish mill is very convenient for
travel but the 169 is much better for everyday use.
I look at it more like do you want to use a pepper mill for your everyday
coffee grinding or would a coffee grinder be best? I haven't used my 169
since 5:30 this morning.
Just my 2 worth for free.

8) From: Jeffrey A. Bertoia
Felix / Ben
I have a a Zass Turkish for a couple of years now and use it to take on 
the road.
The Turkish does not have a limitied adjustment range but I think
it is a little less convenient for daily use.
If you are planning on using it only at home the 169 is probably a 
better choice.
jeff - who is going to clean the zass since Peter says there is no good 
coffee in Orange County
Ben Treichel wrote:

9) From: AlChemist John
I take two minutes to do 60g in my 169.  A touch of locktight takes care of 
Sometime around 00:24 2/8/2004, miKe mcKoffee typed:
John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.dreamsandbones.net/blog/http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

10) From: John Abbott
Ok, Ok I'm a Johnny-come-lately because I wasn't on line last night. 
But my 169 is my primary grinder - with the exception of the built in
grinder in the SM5K.  I got the grinder on Tom's recommendation when I
got my Cona Vac pot.  I dialed it in for the grind I wanted and cranked
away.  The only improvement I might make is the depth of the grinds
drawer.  But that would be the ONLY thing I'd change.  If you wear your
machine down so the setting begins to drift - a drop of nail polish will
hold it - and can be easily removed.  
Like so many others on the list I use a Turkish grinder for travel. Its
small, noiseless (except my grunting) and cleans up nicely for return to
the travel case.   if you are going to select just one, you won't regret
the 169.  It is an extremely good (repetition) grinder and looks like a
grinder.  I think my 169 gets more comments than the SM5K.
John - heading for my 169 to make a pot of CRLM
On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 22:56, Felix Dial wrote:

11) From: Johnny Kent
Around 10:55 AM 2/8/2004 -0600, John Abbott wrote:
Works for my 151...http://members.cox.net/gusty/DeepDrawer.jpg

12) From: Bill Martin
On Feb 7, 2004, at 10:24 PM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
One of the tabletop Zassenhaus from SM.
 From the fertile slopes of Kilauea Volcano on the Big Island

13) From: Peter Barnes
I've been thinking about this since last night, and I still can't think 
of a good place to get coffee in OC.  Diedrich's is my choice when I'm 
on the go and need coffee, but I was down there for the entire month of 
December and tried to find a good place to get coffee, but couldn't. 
Sometimes the coffee at Diedrich's is decent - and by that I mean they 
stock some decent coffees and single origins, brew their coffee strong 
enough to extract flavor, and they don't seem to char all of their 
coffee (but some is definitely over-roasted and burned (avoid the Black 
Tiger blend like the plague).
Of course, OC is a big enough place that there's no way I uncovered 
everything.  Unfortunately, it's just one big suburb, and can tend to be 
a bit "cookie-cutter".  So it goes.
If anyone has had a different experience, I'd love to hear about it.  I 
just make my own coffee when I'm there now.

14) From: Bill Martin
Now ....  THATs a modification!!!
On Feb 8, 2004, at 8:30 AM, Johnny Kent wrote:
 From the fertile slopes of Kilauea Volcano on the Big Island

15) From: Bill Martin
151 as it turns out.  Or rather, upside down.
On Feb 8, 2004, at 8:33 AM, Bill Martin wrote:
 From the fertile slopes of Kilauea Volcano on the Big Island

16) From: Felix Dial

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