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Topic: Cory Vacuum Pot (41 msgs / 687 lines)
1) From: Ted Nottingham
OK, I listened to all of the swoons on here about vacuum pots.  So I 
picked up a Cory in unused condition on EBay.  Makes great coffee .  My 
only problem is how to handle the used funnel and grounds without making 
a mess.  What's the secret code?
Ted. . .

2) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
On Feb 14, 2004, at 7:49 AM, Ted Nottingham wrote:
    I've just gotten used to making the mess and cleaning it up.
    Jim Gundlach

3) From: John Abbott
On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 07:49, Ted Nottingham wrote:
<Snip>http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.vacuum.shtmlIf your unit is new (like new) it came with a lid for the top - that has
a stem holder.  Place the lid with the stem holder up and place the stem
of the top in it.   Most units come with a funnel holder.  The Cona came
with a stand that includes a small drip collector that allows me to cool
the top/ store the top.

4) From: miKe mcKoffee
Warm water, sink and garbage disposal. Those kitchen "wands" with sponge on
head and dishsoap in handle also make cleaning easier. MM;-)

5) From: Angelo
What I do is to unhook the filter, if it's one of the spring types. I then 
carefully place the funnel in the sink drain, fill with water, pull the 
filter up and whalaa!, the coffee goes merrily down the drain. Keep running 
the water, and before you know it, the grounds are gone...
As to whether or not it's good for your drain, I guess it depends on what 
sort of disposal system you have... Many on alt.coffee say they've been 
pouring coffee grounds down the drain for many years w/o incident...YRMV..
Just remember, mess is part of life...:-)

6) From: John Abbott
OH!  Is that what he was asking?   Sorry for my how to handle it until
time to clean diatribe!   Yup - that's the way I clean mine too.
On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 11:34, miKe mcKoffee wrote:

7) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
All my grounds go to the compost heap, little more work in the short 
run but less plumbing work in the long run.
     Jim Gundlach
On Feb 14, 2004, at 11:34 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:

8) From: Brian Kamnetz
Do vacuum brewers have brewing advantages over French press?
At 09:28 AM 2/14/2004 -0600, you wrote:

9) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
On Feb 14, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote:
I would say a taste advantage but a connivence disadvantage.  I use the 
vacuum when I make regular coffee for guests but I take the French 
press when I am on the road.
Jim Gundlach

10) From: Brian Kamnetz
Out of idle curiosity, how do you heat the water for the French press on 
the road? Do you bring a container for microwaves and only stay in 
hotels/motels that include microwaves in the room?
At 01:14 PM 2/14/2004 -0600, you wrote:

11) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
I only stay at motels that have a microwave and refrigerator in the 
room.  I also have bought water at a connivence store and used their 
microwave to heat it when I want coffee during the day when I'm on the 
Jim Gundlach
  On Feb 14, 2004, at 1:19 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote:

12) From: John Abbott
Brian Kamnetz wrote:
I use an Ibrik, Chemex, Cona-D (vacuum), SM5K, Press Pot and E-Siphon. 
When I want to produce the most delicious cup for dinner or an after 
dinner drink with company I almost always use the Cona-D because nothing 
approaches the flavor I can get from it. The Press Pot will produce a 
great strong flavored cup, but a vacuum pot will produce the smoothest.
I use the E-siphon when I travel to both brew and heat water. Fits 
nicely with the rest of the equipment in a carry on bag.
John - a roasting fool again today - now doing the Bolivians.

13) From: Brian Kamnetz
At 02:33 PM 2/14/2004 -0600, you wrote:
I like the sound of fresh coffee on the road (rather than buying truck stop 
coffee and pouring 3 or 4 packets of cream-like stuff into to kill the 
worst of the taste). When you do this, do you grind the coffee on the spot 
with a hand grinder, and brew in your French press?

14) From: Brian Kamnetz
At 02:33 PM 2/14/2004 -0600, you wrote:
Also, what do you put the water into to heat it in the microwaves?

15) From: Lesley Albjerg
My daily brewer is a Sunbeam model C vacuum brewer.  I have a nice collection of vac brewers.  For the ultimate smooth cup, one of the glass models seems to be a cut above the Sunbeam.  However for ease of use, I just grind, fill the Sunbeam with filter, coffee, and water, plug it in set the temp on high wait for it to click to low, unplug, pull off the top when everything has gone south,  and ENJOY!  All in less than ten min.
John Abbott  wrote:
Brian Kamnetz wrote:
I use an Ibrik, Chemex, Cona-D (vacuum), SM5K, Press Pot and E-Siphon. 
When I want to produce the most delicious cup for dinner or an after 
dinner drink with company I almost always use the Cona-D because nothing 
approaches the flavor I can get from it. The Press Pot will produce a 
great strong flavored cup, but a vacuum pot will produce the smoothest.
I use the E-siphon when I travel to both brew and heat water. Fits 
nicely with the rest of the equipment in a carry on bag.
John - a roasting fool again today - now doing the Bolivians.---------------------------------
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16) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
On Feb 14, 2004, at 3:06 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote:
Yes,   use a Zass.
     Jim Gundlach

17) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
On Feb 14, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote:
The French press pot.
       Jim gundlach

18) From: miKe mcKoffee

19) From: Michael Guterman
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miKe mcKoffee wrote:
Really, Mike, I had a similar trip.  Used a Melitta pour through for 
thirty years, then vac, then Silvia, now Amica.  I now use the machine 
almost all the time.  I love your cafe cremas.  I haven't tried one with 
Amica, yet, but Silvia made them just fine.
My one week verdict is that Amica is much easier to use and much more 
consistent than Silvia.  I have not had a bad shot since the first one 
(which got tossed).  It took five seconds on a grinder setting that 
would have choked Silvia.  But I think the Faema basket is smaller than 
the ridgeless "LM" that I used with Silvia, and which I sent on to her 
new owner.  Amica loves to make ristrettos, and I get these lovely ounce 
and a third thick reddish shots.  If I can get my act together I will 
post a picture.  (I know we all live just to look at pictures of other 
people's coffee.)
Hope everyone had a great Valentine's Day.

20) From: Brandon Kolbe
     I found a Cory vacuum pot at a St. Vincent de Paul thrift store this
weekend.  It looks like an older one ( from the 1950's????).  It has both
the top and bottom parts and the glass filter rod.  Unfortunately, there is
no heater with it.  It looks like it is in very good shape.  They want $39
for it.  I was wondering if that is a good price for it???  Also, if I were
to buy it does anyone know what type of heater is used with this or how I
could find out?  Thanks, in advance,  for all your help.
Happy Roasting,
"We are what we think.
All that we are arises
With our thoughts.
With our thoughts,
We make our world."
       -- Buddha

21) From: David
St. Vincent de Paul?  In the Seattle area?  I found
one at an antique store south of Seattle, they wanted
$50, seal was a bit iffy, I passed.  If it has a flat
bottom it may be a stovetop one, I am no expert, I am
sure someone else can give you the info you need.  If
in the Seattle area, which one?  I may have to snatch
it up!  
--- Brandon Kolbe  wrote:
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22) From: Barry Luterman
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If it has a flat bottom it is a stove top. If using it on a gas stove =
place it on a heat diffuser .

23) From: Slinkster
Barry Luterman wrote:
The instructions that came with my new Yama seem to indicate I'm to use 
the "heat diffuser" (nothing more than a heavy chromed wire, it looks 
like) if I use the brewer on an electric burner?

24) From: Rich
Any glass appliance that will be used in direct contact with an electric heating element should be used 
with a heat diffuser.  The operating temperature of the heating element is sufficient to cause softening 
of the glass and / or local stresses that result in cracking.  You can make a heat diffuser from plain iron 
wire.  Cut 3 pieces of equal length and twist about 1" of the ends together to form a triangle.  Some of 
the flat top electric ranges are designed for total contact pots and pans, glass will not work well at all 
and if you try a diffuser the range top will crack.
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:01:12 -0500, Slinkster wrote:

25) From: Slinkster
Rich wrote:
So I've always been taught.  I'm guessing Barry misspoke.
I'll cook on a wood fire before I install an electric cooker in my house :D

26) From: Robert Gulley
That's correct - my Yama says the same thing, and that is what I have 
consistently read concerning these pots.
At 09:01 AM 9/18/2007, you wrote:

27) From: Barry Luterman
What do you mean I misspoke. I said to use a heat diffuser on a gas stove. I 
have no experience at all with an electric stove.

28) From: Slinkster
Barry Luterman wrote:
WHY should we use a heat diffuser on a gas stove?  I've only ever cooked 
on gas (except the odd meal at mother's-in-law place on electric, I 
usually burn something) and I've never used a heat diffuser for anything 
except my wee copper butter pot.

29) From: Barry Luterman
Have you ever cooked with a glass pot on a gas stove? My understanding is 
concentrated heat on glass weakens the glass over time. Diffusing the heat 
source will protect the glass. I use a diffuser( cost is less than 3 
dollars) on my gas stove. I have been using the same bottom portion for more 
than 3 years now. The top had to be replaced once in the last 3 years due to 
my own carelessness.

30) From: Brian Kamnetz
I'm certainly no expert, but I'm with Barry on this. A diffuser can't
hurt, and by buffering the heat that builds up in the burner grate may
help the glass bottom to last longer.
But that's me. I suppose it's ok both ways, to each his own. Some
people will feel good about using a diffuser, and some will feel good
for not using a diffuser.
On 9/18/07, Barry Luterman  wrote:

31) From: Rich
The heat diffuser is used with an ELECTRIC stove not GAS.
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:53:45 -1000, Barry Luterman wrote:

32) From: Rich
I have been cooking on a commercial gas stove for years and have NEVER used the little heat diffuser.  
I have never ruined a glass pot or pan on a gas stove.  I have melted the bottom on of several pans on a 
calrod type electric stove, they stick to the heating element.
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:15:18 -1000, Barry Luterman wrote:

33) From: Lynne Biziewski
Ah - but it's a commercial gas stove - that's why! Big difference in quality
- diffusers are used
in home kitchens on regular gas stoves where there is not as much control of
the flame.
I have a very good electric flat top stove - would never need a diffuser for
this even for difficult
sauces. But I've had horrible cheap electric & gas stoves in the past -
usually had need for the
gas stoves, but not the electric (my problem was getting the electricity to
produce ENOUGH heat...)
I googled calrod - that's a typical, regular electric - what I've used in
the past. Usually I never burned stuff with that type of stove, but it
always depended on the quality of each one. Yuck, never realized
how horrible they were til I used gas & my current beauty - a glass flat top
with perfect control of the
On 9/18/07, Rich  wrote:

34) From: Lynne Biziewski
Sorry for replying to my own email - have to make one correction. I never
burned anything due to
the stove's fault. It's practically a joke in my house (about me burning
food.. now progressed to my
recent forgetting stuff on the stove, which has led to quite a few ruined
pans). My forgetfulness aside,
(call me the absent minded chef... if I get involved in something else, it
captures all my attention), I like
to cook with very high heat - so it took a number of years to learn how to
do that w/out burning stuff.
On 9/18/07, Lynne Biziewski  wrote:
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discard the old, embrace the new, and run headlong down an immutable course.
Jacques Cousteau

35) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
What about the glass top electric stoves?
What do you do on those?

36) From: scott miller
I use my Silex vacpot directly on my glass top stove. No problems.
On 9/18/07, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)  wrote:

37) From: Rick Copple
Rich wrote:
I'm a little confused by this and wondering if you're not talking past 
each other.
I wouldn't call that little wire thing I have to put on my electric 
stove a diffuser. It doesn't diffuse anything. It's simply to keep the 
glass pot from making direct contact with the heating elements and is 
necessary on direct exposed heating elements at least, if you want your 
glass pot to last very long (I use an Yama on my electric stove).
But I assumed by Barry's use of the word "diffuser" he was referring to 
a solid, flat piece of material, probably ceramic, that diffuses the 
heat coming from the burner so as to make it more even. Maybe I'm wrong 
there and he is referring to the little wire and if so, I would be 
confused as to why use that at all. It would make no difference on a 
standard gas burner as it would only raise the glass a fraction of an 
inch higher but nothing else. That would have little effect on anything.
That's why I'm thinking he's talking about a real diffuser, not the wire 
used to separate the glass from the electrical element.
But, he can clarify that if he wishes.
Rick Copplehttp://www.rlcopple.com/

38) From: Barry Luterman
The one I use is not a wire but about 1/4 in wide piece of tin with holes in 

39) From: Rich
The best advice for any electric cooktop is to call the manufacturer, not the local appliance store, and 
ask them.  The technology of these cooktops has changed quite a bit over time.
If you check the original instructions that were originally packed with the Cory coffee pot it tells you 
that the heat spreader is for use on any electric burner.  It is not required with a gas burner.  I think 
Cory had a reasonable idea of what they were talking about but they never saw a flat top electric 
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:47:15 -0400, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69) wrote:

40) From: Rich
The manufacturer, Cory, called the little three legged wire gizmo a "heat diffuser".  Now there is an 
item that shows up in the chem lab that is a heat diffuser that goes between the beaker / flask and 
the bunsen burner flame.  It is coarse wire screen material with a real round pad of asbestos in the 
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:06:14 -0500, Rick Copple wrote:

41) From: Barry Luterman
I just figure using the diffuser will not hurt my gas stove and it might 
prolong the life of my glass pot. So for 3 dollars I bought a cheap life 
insurance policy for my pot. The diffuser does not effect the taste of the 
coffee either way and ultimately that is the bottom line.

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