OK, I listened to all of the swoons on here about vacuum pots. So I picked up a Cory in unused condition on EBay. Makes great coffee . My only problem is how to handle the used funnel and grounds without making a mess. What's the secret code? Ted. . .
On Feb 14, 2004, at 7:49 AM, Ted Nottingham wrote: <Snip> I've just gotten used to making the mess and cleaning it up. Jim Gundlach
On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 07:49, Ted Nottingham wrote: <Snip>http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.vacuum.shtmlIf your unit is new (like new) it came with a lid for the top - that has a stem holder. Place the lid with the stem holder up and place the stem of the top in it. Most units come with a funnel holder. The Cona came with a stand that includes a small drip collector that allows me to cool the top/ store the top.
Warm water, sink and garbage disposal. Those kitchen "wands" with sponge on head and dishsoap in handle also make cleaning easier. MM;-)
What I do is to unhook the filter, if it's one of the spring types. I then carefully place the funnel in the sink drain, fill with water, pull the filter up and whalaa!, the coffee goes merrily down the drain. Keep running the water, and before you know it, the grounds are gone... As to whether or not it's good for your drain, I guess it depends on what sort of disposal system you have... Many on alt.coffee say they've been pouring coffee grounds down the drain for many years w/o incident...YRMV.. Just remember, mess is part of life...:-) <Snip>
OH! Is that what he was asking? Sorry for my how to handle it until time to clean diatribe! Yup - that's the way I clean mine too. On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 11:34, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip>
All my grounds go to the compost heap, little more work in the short run but less plumbing work in the long run. Jim Gundlach On Feb 14, 2004, at 11:34 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip>
Do vacuum brewers have brewing advantages over French press? Brian At 09:28 AM 2/14/2004 -0600, you wrote: <Snip>
On Feb 14, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> I would say a taste advantage but a connivence disadvantage. I use the vacuum when I make regular coffee for guests but I take the French press when I am on the road. Jim Gundlach
Out of idle curiosity, how do you heat the water for the French press on the road? Do you bring a container for microwaves and only stay in hotels/motels that include microwaves in the room? Thanks, Brian At 01:14 PM 2/14/2004 -0600, you wrote: <Snip>
I only stay at motels that have a microwave and refrigerator in the room. I also have bought water at a connivence store and used their microwave to heat it when I want coffee during the day when I'm on the road. Jim Gundlach On Feb 14, 2004, at 1:19 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip>
Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> Brian, I use an Ibrik, Chemex, Cona-D (vacuum), SM5K, Press Pot and E-Siphon. When I want to produce the most delicious cup for dinner or an after dinner drink with company I almost always use the Cona-D because nothing approaches the flavor I can get from it. The Press Pot will produce a great strong flavored cup, but a vacuum pot will produce the smoothest. I use the E-siphon when I travel to both brew and heat water. Fits nicely with the rest of the equipment in a carry on bag. John - a roasting fool again today - now doing the Bolivians.
At 02:33 PM 2/14/2004 -0600, you wrote: <Snip> I like the sound of fresh coffee on the road (rather than buying truck stop coffee and pouring 3 or 4 packets of cream-like stuff into to kill the worst of the taste). When you do this, do you grind the coffee on the spot with a hand grinder, and brew in your French press? Brian
At 02:33 PM 2/14/2004 -0600, you wrote: <Snip> Also, what do you put the water into to heat it in the microwaves? Thanks, Brian
My daily brewer is a Sunbeam model C vacuum brewer. I have a nice collection of vac brewers. For the ultimate smooth cup, one of the glass models seems to be a cut above the Sunbeam. However for ease of use, I just grind, fill the Sunbeam with filter, coffee, and water, plug it in set the temp on high wait for it to click to low, unplug, pull off the top when everything has gone south, and ENJOY! All in less than ten min. Les John Abbott wrote: Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> Brian, I use an Ibrik, Chemex, Cona-D (vacuum), SM5K, Press Pot and E-Siphon. When I want to produce the most delicious cup for dinner or an after dinner drink with company I almost always use the Cona-D because nothing approaches the flavor I can get from it. The Press Pot will produce a great strong flavored cup, but a vacuum pot will produce the smoothest. I use the E-siphon when I travel to both brew and heat water. Fits nicely with the rest of the equipment in a carry on bag. John - a roasting fool again today - now doing the Bolivians.--------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
On Feb 14, 2004, at 3:06 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> Yes, use a Zass. Jim Gundlach
On Feb 14, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> The French press pot. Jim gundlach
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> Really, Mike, I had a similar trip. Used a Melitta pour through for thirty years, then vac, then Silvia, now Amica. I now use the machine almost all the time. I love your cafe cremas. I haven't tried one with Amica, yet, but Silvia made them just fine. My one week verdict is that Amica is much easier to use and much more consistent than Silvia. I have not had a bad shot since the first one (which got tossed). It took five seconds on a grinder setting that would have choked Silvia. But I think the Faema basket is smaller than the ridgeless "LM" that I used with Silvia, and which I sent on to her new owner. Amica loves to make ristrettos, and I get these lovely ounce and a third thick reddish shots. If I can get my act together I will post a picture. (I know we all live just to look at pictures of other people's coffee.) Hope everyone had a great Valentine's Day. Michael <Snip>
Greetings, I found a Cory vacuum pot at a St. Vincent de Paul thrift store this weekend. It looks like an older one ( from the 1950's????). It has both the top and bottom parts and the glass filter rod. Unfortunately, there is no heater with it. It looks like it is in very good shape. They want $39 for it. I was wondering if that is a good price for it??? Also, if I were to buy it does anyone know what type of heater is used with this or how I could find out? Thanks, in advance, for all your help. Happy Roasting, Brandon -- "We are what we think. All that we are arises With our thoughts. With our thoughts, We make our world." -- Buddha
Brandon, St. Vincent de Paul? In the Seattle area? I found one at an antique store south of Seattle, they wanted $50, seal was a bit iffy, I passed. If it has a flat bottom it may be a stovetop one, I am no expert, I am sure someone else can give you the info you need. If in the Seattle area, which one? I may have to snatch it up! Cheers, David --- Brandon Kolbe wrote: <Snip> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.http://sims.yahoo.com/
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. If it has a flat bottom it is a stove top. If using it on a gas stove = place it on a heat diffuser .
Barry Luterman wrote: <Snip> The instructions that came with my new Yama seem to indicate I'm to use the "heat diffuser" (nothing more than a heavy chromed wire, it looks like) if I use the brewer on an electric burner?
Any glass appliance that will be used in direct contact with an electric heating element should be used with a heat diffuser. The operating temperature of the heating element is sufficient to cause softening of the glass and / or local stresses that result in cracking. You can make a heat diffuser from plain iron wire. Cut 3 pieces of equal length and twist about 1" of the ends together to form a triangle. Some of the flat top electric ranges are designed for total contact pots and pans, glass will not work well at all and if you try a diffuser the range top will crack. On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:01:12 -0500, Slinkster wrote: <Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings
Rich wrote: <Snip> So I've always been taught. I'm guessing Barry misspoke. I'll cook on a wood fire before I install an electric cooker in my house :D
That's correct - my Yama says the same thing, and that is what I have consistently read concerning these pots. RG At 09:01 AM 9/18/2007, you wrote: <Snip>
What do you mean I misspoke. I said to use a heat diffuser on a gas stove. I have no experience at all with an electric stove.
Barry Luterman wrote: <Snip> WHY should we use a heat diffuser on a gas stove? I've only ever cooked on gas (except the odd meal at mother's-in-law place on electric, I usually burn something) and I've never used a heat diffuser for anything except my wee copper butter pot.
Have you ever cooked with a glass pot on a gas stove? My understanding is concentrated heat on glass weakens the glass over time. Diffusing the heat source will protect the glass. I use a diffuser( cost is less than 3 dollars) on my gas stove. I have been using the same bottom portion for more than 3 years now. The top had to be replaced once in the last 3 years due to my own carelessness.
I'm certainly no expert, but I'm with Barry on this. A diffuser can't hurt, and by buffering the heat that builds up in the burner grate may help the glass bottom to last longer. But that's me. I suppose it's ok both ways, to each his own. Some people will feel good about using a diffuser, and some will feel good for not using a diffuser. Brian On 9/18/07, Barry Luterman wrote: <Snip>
The heat diffuser is used with an ELECTRIC stove not GAS. On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:53:45 -1000, Barry Luterman wrote: <Snip> <Snip> <Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings
I have been cooking on a commercial gas stove for years and have NEVER used the little heat diffuser. I have never ruined a glass pot or pan on a gas stove. I have melted the bottom on of several pans on a calrod type electric stove, they stick to the heating element. On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:15:18 -1000, Barry Luterman wrote: <Snip> <Snip> <Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings
Ah - but it's a commercial gas stove - that's why! Big difference in quality - diffusers are used in home kitchens on regular gas stoves where there is not as much control of the flame. I have a very good electric flat top stove - would never need a diffuser for this even for difficult sauces. But I've had horrible cheap electric & gas stoves in the past - usually had need for the gas stoves, but not the electric (my problem was getting the electricity to produce ENOUGH heat...) I googled calrod - that's a typical, regular electric - what I've used in the past. Usually I never burned stuff with that type of stove, but it always depended on the quality of each one. Yuck, never realized how horrible they were til I used gas & my current beauty - a glass flat top with perfect control of the heat. Lynne On 9/18/07, Rich wrote: <Snip>
Sorry for replying to my own email - have to make one correction. I never burned anything due to the stove's fault. It's practically a joke in my house (about me burning food.. now progressed to my recent forgetting stuff on the stove, which has led to quite a few ruined pans). My forgetfulness aside, (call me the absent minded chef... if I get involved in something else, it captures all my attention), I like to cook with very high heat - so it took a number of years to learn how to do that w/out burning stuff. Lynne On 9/18/07, Lynne Biziewski wrote: <Snip> -- Sometimes we are lucky enough to know that our lives have been changed, to discard the old, embrace the new, and run headlong down an immutable course. Jacques Cousteau
What about the glass top electric stoves? What do you do on those? Dennis
I use my Silex vacpot directly on my glass top stove. No problems. cheers, Scott On 9/18/07, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69) wrote: <Snip>
Rich wrote: <Snip> I'm a little confused by this and wondering if you're not talking past each other. I wouldn't call that little wire thing I have to put on my electric stove a diffuser. It doesn't diffuse anything. It's simply to keep the glass pot from making direct contact with the heating elements and is necessary on direct exposed heating elements at least, if you want your glass pot to last very long (I use an Yama on my electric stove). But I assumed by Barry's use of the word "diffuser" he was referring to a solid, flat piece of material, probably ceramic, that diffuses the heat coming from the burner so as to make it more even. Maybe I'm wrong there and he is referring to the little wire and if so, I would be confused as to why use that at all. It would make no difference on a standard gas burner as it would only raise the glass a fraction of an inch higher but nothing else. That would have little effect on anything. That's why I'm thinking he's talking about a real diffuser, not the wire used to separate the glass from the electrical element. But, he can clarify that if he wishes. -- Rick Copplehttp://www.rlcopple.com/
The one I use is not a wire but about 1/4 in wide piece of tin with holes in it.
The best advice for any electric cooktop is to call the manufacturer, not the local appliance store, and ask them. The technology of these cooktops has changed quite a bit over time. If you check the original instructions that were originally packed with the Cory coffee pot it tells you that the heat spreader is for use on any electric burner. It is not required with a gas burner. I think Cory had a reasonable idea of what they were talking about but they never saw a flat top electric either. On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:47:15 -0400, True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69) wrote: <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> <Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings
The manufacturer, Cory, called the little three legged wire gizmo a "heat diffuser". Now there is an item that shows up in the chem lab that is a heat diffuser that goes between the beaker / flask and the bunsen burner flame. It is coarse wire screen material with a real round pad of asbestos in the middle. On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:06:14 -0500, Rick Copple wrote: <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> <Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings
I just figure using the diffuser will not hurt my gas stove and it might prolong the life of my glass pot. So for 3 dollars I bought a cheap life insurance policy for my pot. The diffuser does not effect the taste of the coffee either way and ultimately that is the bottom line.