Both these threads get me thinking about the immense joy I get out of roasting, grinding and brewing for next to nothing and ending up with pure joy in my cup. I have no doubt that the coffee from a great grinder and espresso machine would taste even better. But for now I get the great taste and satisfaction of drinking some of the best coffee in the world for the price of some of Tom's beans, a press pot and a WBP1. Although I am sure I will eventually end up with a MM and spendy espresso machine I am worried that some of my joy in coffee will leave me when it becomes less of a bargain. Jared --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
Jared Andersson wrote:. Although I am sure I will eventually end up with a MM and spendy espresso machine I am worried that some of my joy in coffee will leave me when it becomes less of a bargain. Jared Jared, Don't worry. The joy will not leave! Only your horizons will be broadened. The only method of brewing I have given up is drip. I do Vacuum Pot, French Press, Moka Pot, Ibrik, and Espresso extraction. The drip just doesn't have room out in the Kitchen, or I might even have one of those out. I spent the big bucks on an HPW. It collects dust and I use my Poppers. I do like Mike's Frankenformer. The Hottop seems nice, but for that amount of $$ I am too close to my E61 grouphead espresso machine! Les Les --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
No, I don't think it will leave you at all. The grinder and machines are just tools to help you enjoy these great coffees with that much more depth. I have been roasting coffee for the last 4 years or so. Up until now it was just french press and a good drip machine that grinds slow and brews (has a timer so it wakes me up with the smell of the brew). And I only spent $10 on my roaster. Although I am about to spend another $30 for a faster motor to turn the drum. It was just 6 months ago or so that I got my Mazzer and Giotto. Since I know I am going to keep this hobby for many years (I'm only 30) I felt like it would be a true waste of money to buy the cheaper things that I would just want to upgrade from later. Now I have 75lbs. of pure coffee joy encased in stainless, and I will for a long time. I doubt I upgrade unless a pump goes bad or something. And even then I will just replace it with a procon or the like. I will never tire of having that beauty in my kitchen. I tend to buy everything like this. I have yet to regret my methodology. I do admit that most of my coffee stuff has been obtained in part by birthday and Christmas gifts. Gene, I understand a $15 investment on a grinder completely. I would have done it just to play with it and if I didn't like it I would give it to a friend. There is always someone who needs anything better than a whirly. Just my opinions, and you know what they say about those. B Jared Andersson wrote: <Snip>
What are you thinking of getting Les? Lesley Albjerg wrote: <Snip>
Brian, When you can't turn tampers, you do research. After getting blown away by Alfred's Giotto, I began looking at different machines. I discovered that you have to spend at least $1500 for a good HX machine. The Isomac Ziffro or Amica costs half the price. They doesn't have the HX, so it doesn't have to do the dance between steam and proper hotwater temp. They do have the essential elements for making the same dramatic shots as the Giotto. I really like the E61 group head. In as much as I drink Espressos and Americanos, I really don't need a super steam machine. If I need steam these machines have a magic button that will raise the temp to turn out the steam! I just discovered that Kitchen Aid (didn't know they were in the espresso business) makes a double boiler machine for $800.00. I have not seen a double boiler for less than $2000! One thing I am seeing is that one pays a lot of money for bells and whistles. Take the machines Tom sells the Giotto. Good machines fro m my experience. However the parts that do the real work of making the shot what it is are the same in the $229.00 machine and the $449.00 machine. Your are paying almost double for bells and whistles. Les Brian Hyde wrote: What are you thinking of getting Les? Lesley Albjerg wrote: <Snip>--------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.