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Topic: Traditions...can we all have a go (32 msgs / 518 lines)
1) From: carr-taylor
Can overseas people join  in the traditions,i am unsure so have never tried.
Sonja in New Zealand
Life Long Fan of The Ho Ho Ho Man
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2) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
I don't know if we can open it up or not, my concern would be that 
someone would offer something up and have to pay a lot for shipping. I 
have no idea how much that would add to the shipping.  For example, how 
much would shipping a pound of green beans be from the U. S. to New 
Zealand?  Any body know.   I checked the U. S. postal web site and I 
cannot figure out which of the kinds of shipping would be acceptable.
       Jim Gundlach
On Apr 11, 2004, at 5:53 PM, carr-taylor wrote:
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3) From: Ron Kyle
Air mail parcel post 4 to 10 days $12.50

4) From: Jean
I wouldn't suggest sending beans to another country - you can get involved
in a whole lot of legalities w/ importing seeds/plant materials in some
countries.  But other things - well, I owe a Tradition.  I haven't yet
decided what it will be, but I'll open it up worldwide and start thinking
about what might be interesting.
Email entries will be accepted until midnight GMT, Wednesday.
Expecting an entry from Sonja at least,
Jean :~)

5) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
$12.50 is quite manageable.  I would think opening the tradition up to 
people overseas would work.  May keep the option that if someone were 
to offer up something heavy like an espresso machine in need of repair 
that they would cover up to a set amount of shipping so an overseas 
member could enter the drawing with the understanding that they would 
pick up the extra shipping.
      Jim Gundlach
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6) From: Ron Kyle
I'd be willing to cover the   1 lb price of 12.50
It is not a big deal to let our overseas friends in on the Traditions.
RK

7) From: Johnny Kent
Remembering that the overseas person when carrying on the tradition will
have to pay extra to ship their chosen tradition back the other way, should
they expect the new winner to pick up the extra shipping? Else they get
stung in both directions.
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8) From: Johnny Kent
I agree we should share but with the caveat that IIRC both Australia and
New Zealand are not friendly to small quantities of agricultural items,
e.g., green beans, being imported.
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9) From: Ron Kyle
Good Point Johnny.
RK

10) From: Johnny Kent
er Ginny,
see below where it says
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 in that case it would end up being both ways.....
unless of course you would pick up the tab :-)
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11) From: Johnny Kent
You need to read what Jim suggested then it should all be clear
At 07:00 PM 4/12/2004 -0700, you wrote:
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shipping. I
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12) From: AlChemist John
Sometime around 20:46 4/12/2004, gin typed:
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Just FYI, let's see, I have received a coffee maker, espresso maker, a WBI, 
and a roasting drum .  I have never received anything under a pound.
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Actually, when it was changed to "the giver picks up shipping", it was with 
the cautionary note that the shipping was "reasonable and comparable" just 
so no one got stung.
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John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
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13) From: Michael Guterman
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gin wrote:
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I will happily ship my pound of Nicaraguan anyplace.  It really isn't a 
whole lot of money.  I have made friends through the traditions and it 
would be cool to spread it out.
Michael
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14) From: Lesley Albjerg
I am getting a bit frustrated with all this.  I am shipping 3 pounds to Australia for less than $6.50.  The rub is that it will take about 5 weeks to get there.  We don't always have to ship the "tradition" 1st class.  I would be more than willing to wait a  month for something special from another country.
 
Les
gin  wrote:
Clearly we are opening a can of worms for a simple offering of Traditions.
Why not let the one offering the Tradition make that decision beforehand 
where he or she will ship? Seems to eliminate the extra shipping for those 
who cannot or do not want to ship outside the US.
Or like or un-working government we can have a committee decide who pays 
how much and why...
ginny
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15) From: Spencer W. Thomas
gin wrote:
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Well, I offered one (espresso maker -- not a huge one, though) in 
December.  I paid the (ground) shipping on it when I shipped  it.  
Luckily the winner was in the US, otherwise he'd still be waiting. :-) 
:-) ;-)
=S

16) From: Ben Treichel
gin wrote:
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I thought so, but kept my mouth shut.

17) From: Tom Ulmer
I must say that even though I have hesitated to become involved in the
"Traditions", that I have always thought it seemed like a  wonderful way for
like-minded folk to share and interact with each other.
Maybe it is just my southern heritage, but I've always found it dispiriting
when civility is misplaced with ideas that should be governed by common
sense.
Gin, I hope this returns to the spirit in which it is intended.

18) From: MMore
I think we need a whole list of "traditions rules", set up by the Traditions 
Rules Committee (TRC, or "Trick") and overseen by the Traditions Rules 
Committee's Enforcement (TRCE or "Tricke") Sub Committee.  Disputes will go before 
the Traditions Rules Committee's Enforcement Sub Committee's Department of 
Informed  Consensus (TRCEDIC or "TrickeDic").
That should settle it all, eh?
Michael A. Roaster of Vienna, Va.

19) From: prentice
I agree.  But it's mostly 'cause I hate rules.
Prentice
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20) From: Ron Kyle
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I shipped a drum to Australia and it sat in customs for nearly 1 month. I
know some countries require a packing slip. and as far as agriculture
products there are countries that have strict rules on this.
RK

21) From: MMore
I think we need a whole list of "traditions rules", set up by the Traditions 
Rules Committee (TRC, or "Trick") and overseen by the Traditions Rules 
Committee's Enforcement (TRCE or "Tricke") Sub Committee.  Disputes will go before 
the Traditions Rules Committee's Enforcement Sub Committee's Department of 
Informed  Consensus (TRCEDIC or "TrickeDic").
That should settle it all, eh?
Michael A. Roaster of Vienna, Va.

22) From: Ben Treichel
Ben Treichel wrote:
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Back in the time warp again!!!! Spooky, 12 hrs to the minute from whan I 
posted this it shows up.

23) From: John Blumel
On Apr 13, 2004, at 11:50pm, Ben Treichel wrote:
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Maybe you've got the am/pm on your clock reversed.
John Blumel

24) From: Ben Treichel
John Blumel wrote:
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Nope, and it went around noon; so its still 12 hrs.
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25) From: Michael Guterman
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MMore wrote:
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I believe we will need some sort of appeals process.  Perhaps we could 
all go on Instant Messenger at the same time and discuss it like the 
gentle folk we all are.
Michael

26) From: Ben Treichel
Michael Guterman wrote:
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I'm sorry, but I avoid MS products when ever possible.
Poll Question - Would you buy a used car from this man? ;-)
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Ben Treichel
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SwRI
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27) From: John Blumel
On Apr 14, 2004, at 8:29am, Ben Treichel wrote:
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Let's try it like this:
Maybe you've got the am/pm on your clock reversed. :)
John Blumel

28) From: Michael Guterman
Ben Treichel wrote:
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I've never actually messaged, but I think it is an AOL product.  A used 
car from me or dic?  If from me I will never part with my MR2.  We still 
need to work out an appeals process.  This will bother me until we get 
it settled.
Michael

29) From: Tom Ulmer
motion seconded!

30) From: Tom Ulmer
ok.. i think it's time to set up a reform committe since all the other
committees have had time to run afoul and there's rumor that a list member
in pittsburg is wanting to offer up a '72 nova, complete with coffe stains
on the bench seat, for tradition...

31) From: Michael Guterman
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Tom Ulmer wrote:
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I think I sold that car.  Cool.
Michael
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32) From: Johnny Kent
At 11:50 PM 4/13/2004 -0400, Ben Treichel wrote:
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Lucky to get it at all, us cox customers are having days+ delays in email,
your post dated Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:50:52 -0400 arrived in my inbox just
now 7:25pm 4-15-04 PDT...
Johnny "wired but time lagged"


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