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1) From: Ed Sheehan
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hi
been reading list for awhile, and i must be doing several things wrong.
here is what i currently do:  using popcorn popper, place maybe 1/2 cup =
of green, say png or panema boketa in well, turn on popper.  in about 4 =
minutes getting first crack, beans brown not oily.  should i be waiting =
until 13 minutes or beginning of second crack?  last time i waited until =
8 minutes or so, did not hear second crack so stopped.  any help =
appreciated.
ed in vermont.

2) From: Ben Treichel
Ed Sheehan wrote:
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The poppers that we use are modified to slow down the roast time so that 
we can get a longer roast. Since it seems like you have enough beans in 
your popper I would suspect that 2n'd crack is happening at about  5 or 
6 minutes.
look here; http://www.homeroaster/geekmod.html for a complete  
explanation.
Ben
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3) From: Scott Jensen
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Sometimes in a popper 1st and 2nd will run together and you are waiting =
for the end of 1st and it never comes, but you can't be sure if you are =
hearing 2nd or not.  If the beans are dark brown like milk chocolate =
then you are probably into 2nd.  1st crack to me is more solid, like a =
popcorn kernal popping.  2nd crack sounds like a bowl of rice krispies, =
lots of little snaps.  
Try taking a batch to where you are positive you have heard 2nd.  Even =
if it takes 20 min, or until the beans have divots and are oily and =
black.  This will at least give you some additional information.  From =
your descrition it would almost seem that you are not getting to 2nd.  I =
always take my roasts to at least the first few snaps of 2nd crack.  I =
just don't care for most coffees at the light city roasts.
Hope this helps,
Scott J.
  been reading list for awhile, and i must be doing several things =
wrong.
  here is what i currently do:  using popcorn popper, place maybe 1/2 =
cup of green, say png or panema boketa in well, turn on popper.  in =
about 4 minutes getting first crack, beans brown not oily.  should i be =
waiting until 13 minutes or beginning of second crack?  last time i =
waited until 8 minutes or so, did not hear second crack so stopped.  

4) From: DEchelbarg
In a message dated 5/16/2004 8:53:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, nne2 
writes:
hi
been reading list for awhile, and i must be doing several things wrong.
here is what i currently do:  using popcorn popper, place maybe 1/2 cup of 
green, say png or panema boketa in well, turn on popper.  in about 4 minutes 
getting first crack, beans brown not oily.  should i be waiting until 13 minutes 
or beginning of second crack?  last time i waited until 8 minutes or so, did 
not hear second crack so stopped.  any help appreciated.
ed in vermont.
Manual Popper?  Steel?  Aluminum?  What do you have?
Thanks,
Dave Echelbarger

5) From: Ed Sheehan
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hi
thanks to replies to my questions.
this is Sears Counter Craft electric popper, 1050 watts.
how would i slow roast down?  not electronics wizard.
will try running a roast for 20 minutes to discern second crack if i =
can.  
will read link sent.
any other help appreciated.
ed in vermont.

6) From: jeff
Is it possible that the popper's thermostat is preventing the increases 
in temp required to reach 2nd crack? i had a similar problem w/ a 
poppery i and II. they got hot enough to bring me into 1st crack but not 
into second. my clue was that on the poppery one, the fan speed would 
kick up as the coil cycled off. a relatively easy thermostat tweak fixed 
the problem.  insrtuctions are in the archive or i believe on felix's 
site members.cox.net/felixdial/popper.mods.shtml.
-jeff
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7) From: Rose EagleFeather
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Hi
Kinda in a hurry and new to this chat scene, but I have seen a few 
email mentioning aluminum.  As a health care practitioner, aluminum 
invites a disasterous chemical reaction with the coffee as well as in 
the body.  As far as taste, I can usually tell when the drink has been =
around aluminum.
thanks, and I'm learning a lot from you guys.
Rose
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Hi
Kinda in a hurry and new to this chat scene, but I have seen a few
email mentioning aluminum.  As a health care practitioner, aluminum
invites a disasterous chemical reaction with the coffee as well as in
the body.  As far as taste, I can usually tell when the drink has been
around aluminum.
thanks, and I'm learning a lot from you guys.
Rose
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green, say png or panema boketa in well, turn on popper.  in about 4
minutes getting first crack, beans brown not oily.  should i be
waiting until 13 minutes or beginning of second crack?  last time i
waited until 8 minutes or so, did not hear second crack so stopped. 
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8) From: AlChemist John
Hi, this is not meant to be snippy, but can we have some specific references?
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John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.dreamsandbones.net/blog/http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

9) From: Gene Smith
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references?
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Dear AlChemist at large,
The research I have read suggests that the connection between aluminum and
various illnesses is dubious at best.  It is unlikely that you are going to
get significant amounts of aluminum into your body by using aluminum
cookware.  The one vector the researchers (and I don't have references here,
other than my failing memory) found worrisome was inhalation - the lungs.
The body is very sensitive to aluminum in a form that can get into your
respiratory system.
Now, you would reasonably respond, "Well, I haven't been breathing any pots
& pans lately!"  But one interesting area not well researched is the use of
aerosol deoderants - aluminum compound sprayed into a small enclosed space
(bathroom).  Maybe bad for you, maybe not...but aerosol deoderants are easy
to do without.
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

10) From: Jeff Wikstrom
Roasting coffee is deodorant enough! :)  Covers up almost anything.

11) From: Gene Smith
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Including (thank you, Jesus!) full catbox.
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

12) From: Jeff Wikstrom
I have another solution for a full catbox.

13) From: Gene Smith
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Empty it?  Or heave the cat?  Cat is much to cute and sweet and funny to
toss.  I have noticed, however, that the Charm Quotient of a cat has no
relationship to what cometh out the other end.  For that matter, a nearly
empty catbox can be a pretty stern experience in a closed garage.  Empty or
full, a session of coffee roasting takes olfactory precedence for days
afterward.
Now, I think I'd better go empty that catbox...
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

14) From: Wandering John
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 09:27, Gene Smith wrote:
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Kopi Luwacko!
Wandering John

15) From: Jeff Wikstrom
Well, my experience says that my neighbor's cats use my flower beds for a
cat box, and she has a few and feeds strays, and, and, and.  I was never a
warm fuzzy cat fan anyway, so you might imagine my love has waned.
When they say cat coffee, I say yuck, they don't grind right.  But, maybe a
rotisserie roaster could be modified to accommodate... 
Jeff
PS...I'm pretty sure that would not make my son happy.  Every cat he sees,
"Keeky keeky keeky!!!"


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