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Topic: Totally Bummed - TOTALLY! (20 msgs / 556 lines)
1) From: Wandering John
OK - home and the news was mixed.  I made some mistakes in that I took 
the advice of friends and didn't talk with my doctor.  Alpha Lipoic 
Acid might be a good thing to help with neuropathy - but not if you 
have diabetes.  After my body attacked me I read the bottle and it says 
not to take it if you are or have been a diabetic.  Well STUPID ME!
So now I'm on the worst possible diet regimen that you could imagine. 
The first thing on the list is:  NO caffeine - personally I think its 
the doctors getting even with me for something!    So I tried to do it 
cold turkey to prove that I wasn't addicted.   OK - I'M ADDICTED!  I 
don't remember a headache like that when I stopped in the past. But 
this hummer was terrible and I woke up with it today.  After sitting 
like a zombie for about 4 hours I pulled a double and downed it - 
headache all gone!  
I called my doctor and after she quit laughing (mean, mean woman) she 
has allowed me two weeks to taper off to no caffeine.   After that I'm 
going to be a decaf drinker - for awhile at least.  I just ordered a 
bunch of Tom's decaf and his own Donkey Blend (I KNOW That's Political 
TOM).  
I've got about 200# of Centrals - 20# of Kona - and one or two pound lot 
of most of the rest (no PRYC - or JBM).   Assuming that I'm not the 
only one on the list with a vicious doctor - does anyone blend 
caf/decaf?
-- 
~John~ loving life in the slow lane

2) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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Hmmm ... that never occurred to me! Maybe I should rename it ; 
elephonkey blend? Sorry to hear about the caffeine problem. I just 
received a bunch of decaf new crop Central samples too, but need to 
wade through them. Theres been a lot of slowdown at the port of 
Oakland so suddenly all these coffees have arrived and need to be 
cupped. PLus I am reviewing Rancilio, trying to finish my trip report 
pages, cupping the Panama auction samples for the June 28th date, 
needing to get back to my "homemade homeroasters" profile pages, and 
the unchanged "espresso pages" ...oh boy, I need another cup of 
coffee... Tom
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3) From: Kevin Pompei

4) From: Rick Farris
I think that would be Ele-funky, wouldn't it?
-- Rick

5) From: Larry Dorman
Please tell me more details.... I am a type 2 diabetic and this 
intrigues me.  I do not have any neuorpathy, fortunately.  I am well 
controlled by taking a couple oral meds combined with exercise.
LarryD
Wandering John wrote:
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6) From: Lesley Albjerg
So sorry John!  I have enjoyed half cafs by blending Tom's Mexican Esmerilda with some of my favorite coffees.  It seems to be a kind of neutral coffee to me, so the origin flavors of your favorite bean really comes through.  At least this is how my taste buds read it!
 
Les
Wandering John  wrote:
OK - home and the news was mixed. I made some mistakes in that I took 
the advice of friends and didn't talk with my doctor. Alpha Lipoic 
Acid might be a good thing to help with neuropathy - but not if you 
have diabetes. After my body attacked me I read the bottle and it says 
not to take it if you are or have been a diabetic. Well STUPID ME!
So now I'm on the worst possible diet regimen that you could imagine. 
The first thing on the list is: NO caffeine - personally I think its 
the doctors getting even with me for something! So I tried to do it 
cold turkey to prove that I wasn't addicted. OK - I'M ADDICTED! I 
don't remember a headache like that when I stopped in the past. But 
this hummer was terrible and I woke up with it today. After sitting 
like a zombie for about 4 hours I pulled a double and downed it - 
headache all gone! 
I called my doctor and after she quit laughing (mean, mean woman) she 
has allowed me two weeks to taper off to no caffeine. After that I'm 
going to be a decaf drinker - for awhile at least. I just ordered a 
bunch of Tom's decaf and his own Donkey Blend (I KNOW That's Political 
TOM). 
I've got about 200# of Centrals - 20# of Kona - and one or two pound lot 
of most of the rest (no PRYC - or JBM). Assuming that I'm not the 
only one on the list with a vicious doctor - does anyone blend 
caf/decaf?
-- 
~John~ loving life in the slow lane---------------------------------
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7) From: John Blumel
On Jun 3, 2004, at 6:34pm, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee wrote:
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I thought the Monkey Blend was named for that other party.
John Blumel

8) From: Oaxaca Charlie
 Ay, que barbaridad! Man, that is a hard pill to swallow, so to
speak. . Mixing 1/2 decaf with the real thing isn't that, bad,
though-really. Not telling every little thing to the doctors is
always wise,as well, IMO.
 Do I sense the mother of all Tradition offerings coming up
soon, too??;o)
  Charlie
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9) From: John Abbott
On Thursday 03 June 2004 06:51 pm, Larry Dorman wrote:
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Larry
reply coming off list
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10) From: Clifton Burkett
I've had good luck blending Tom's  "Ethiopian Harar Horse WP Decaf" and
"Sulawesi Toraja WP Decaf" with full octane of the same type. I also =
like
the "Panama WP Decaf - Panamaria Estate" as a blender with Costa Ricans. =
My
stash is really low on the Harar decaf hope he gets more in soon! I also
like to mix an African,  Sulawesi or Sumatra with the Panama WP Decaf. I
usually mix them post roast to get the degree of roast to my liking for =
each
type. I haven't mixed anything with my Kona yet! Maybe drink a cup of
straight Kona then drink a cup of straight decaff and jump up and down =
to
mix? :)
Clif and Odie the Corgi - SomeWhere in Florida

11) From: Bill Doman
Sorry for your "loss". A few years ago, when I got a diagnosis of bipolar, I
was also told to give up caffeine. That was actually what started my search
for better coffee! I still cheat a little, since I've always thought that
chocolate was my first ever drug of choice. The headaches will pass, and you
already have a source of some very good decaf greens, though certainly not
the variety available to the unaffiliated. 
Bill

12) From: John Blumel
On Jun 4, 2004, at 10:20am, Bill Doman wrote:
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I'd get a second opinion or do some research on my own if I were you. 
Few MDs, including those in university medical centers, keep up with 
the latest research outside a narrow field of personal interest. They 
could be telling you to give up caffeine based on outdated information 
or perhaps just a casual conversation they had with someone at a 
conference. Given that coffee and caffeine have frequently been 
considered the root of all dietary evil by the medical establishment, 
despite any real evidence, I'd be disinclined to permanently accept 
such blanket prohibitions without some research, peer reviewed by PhDs, 
backing it up. (Few MDs, even among those who do research, are actually 
trained as scientists.) At the very least, I'd make the MD explain to 
me exactly why they are telling me to not consume any caffeine and, 
preferably, they'd be able to cite at least one current study to back 
up their reasons. Remember, these people are trained in medical school 
and in their residencies to speak with great authority to patients 
regardless of how much they actually know about what's going on.
John Blumel

13) From: Wandering John
On Friday 04 June 2004 11:55 am, John Blumel wrote:
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 OK - wasn't going to whine on line.  Caffeine has never been an issue 
with any of the doctors that attend me.  But I have spinal neuropathy 
which becomes excruciating frequently (the real reason I'm not going to 
PNG II)  I just spent a week at the Rice Medical Center.   They are 
looking for ANYTHING that can contribute to the screwy signals that run 
up and down my nerve column.   Caffeine is just one of 22 things that 
they have eliminated from my diet trying to isolate the generators. 
My endocrinologist had already OK'd me for the LARGE amount of coffee I 
drink - so this is NOT a standard "Stop smoking, stop coffee and 
exercise" order.  These folks have worried over me for four years and 
are among earth's most compassionate folks.  In large measure I owe 
them my life.
-- 
~John~ loving life in the slow lane

14) From: john roberts
While I wouldn't dismiss your doctor's advice it might be worth digging a
little deeper. I have been following the published reports on coffee for
years and it routinely flip flops every few years.
I suspect the lack of control for bean type, origin, degree of roast,
infusion method, etc would surely confound most studies.
The most recent reports I've seen suggest decaf coffee consumption improves
insulin resistance and is protective against type II diabetes. Regular
caffinated coffee was mixed being relatively health neutral re: insulin.
But like I said I expect a new study tomorrow may contradict that.. :-)
JR

15) From: Pamela Chadwick
John,
I hope they get it figured out soon. Hopefully you will soon be back in your
cups.
Pam

16) From: miKe mcKoffee

17) From: DJ Garcia
John, sorry to hear that. It really is a Bummer, with a capital B. I
have some decafs but haven't done much with them. Maybe now's a good
time.
DJ
Looking to roast some Costa Rica Monte Crisol WP Decaf

18) From: DJ Garcia
OK, so hopefully they'll sleuth out the real cause and let you get back
to some serious caffeine consumption.
DJ
Hoping for the best

19) From: John Abbott
On Friday 04 June 2004 06:53 pm, DJ Garcia wrote:
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Thanks DJ,  I'm hoping for something to pop up out of the list of things 
they cut out.   I'm thinking that if it helps me feel human I can learn 
to really love decaf.  My kids have been so good as to offer to take my 
stash off my hands :o))
I have confirmation that USPS has my decaf beans enroute to me.  I'm 
hoping it proves faster than Brown.  
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20) From: John Abbott
On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 20:43, Oaxaca Charlie wrote:
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Well, I'm making rapid progress.  I'm down to 100% decaf already. I
would have never believed I could quit in four days.  But today was a no
headache day again and I had NOTHING but decaf.  
The rules for decaf are the same as for other beans, and I had violated
them in that I didn't let the Mahdling rest before trying it. Yesterday
it was better and today it was actually good! 
I roasted some Costa Rican this morning and it smelled real enough. I'll
tell you on Wednesday.  I then roasted some of Tom's Donkey blend and I
just pulled a shot - and even though it hasn't rested it was very good!
The decafs can be as good a drink if they are handled with the same
care.  I bought enough that I'll probably stay decafed for awhile even
if they give me permission to go back to caffeine. 
And if you lived in this jail I call a body, you would not only tell the
doctor everything - you would tell em what you were thinking and what
you were reading  - anything to get it fixed.  
-- 
~John~ loving life in the slow lane


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