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Topic: No More HTML! (16 msgs / 718 lines)
1) From: Martin Reuben
Come On Folks!   We've covered this before.  You should all know better by
now.  You don't post to a list using HTML formatting - use PLAIN TEXT ONLY.
And for those of you that are replying using the HTML in the quotes - well,
the only thing you deserve is a lifetime of Folgers Instant Coffee!
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2) From: coffenut
Martin,
Thanks for the reminder and I'm guilty of at least replying to a few HTML
messages without reversing the format back to plain text.  With Outlook
2000, HTML format adds a slight delay (couple of seconds) opening messages.
For those on the list who also use Outlook (or "Lookout" as some call it),
and don't know how to change the format, with the message or reply open:
Go to "Format" on the menu-bar
Select "Plain Text" to disable the HTML format.
Coffenut  :^)
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3) From: Lee B.
Martin,
I agree there isn't a real NEED to use HTML in posts, but you're fighting an
uphill battle here...
I believe that html does not represent a problem to the vast majority of
list users. If  your mailer doesn't handle html, then get one that does. Why
go through continual pain?
Yes, HTML is a problem with the DIGEST. I recommend NOT using the digest.
Set your mailer to file (filter) all homeroast posts to a folder. This also
allows you to save/delete single messages later on, which not easily done
with the digest.
Can we get back to home roasting now?
Lee B.
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4) From: John
it is a simple matter to select the {}plain text  in the lower left corner
of the contact form and then you don't have to worry about being one of the
sinners ever again - well... you know!

5) From: Bob Norton
I VERY MUCH prefer to use the digest and that listers take some
responsibility for their actions and only post in ASCII. It's only an
uphill battle because of suggestions like yours.
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On 3/25/2001Lee B. wrote:
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6) From: Tom & Maria
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You know, I probably could set it up so the list server looks for strings
of HTML and bounces the post back. The problem is that I dont know how to
return a specific automated response to the sender about exactly what the
problem is and how they should fix it. I think I could do it locally on my
computer though ... just dont want to create a larger problem out of this
in an attempt to correct it.
Tom
                  "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters"
           Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting  -  Tom & Maria
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7) From: Glen Sutherland
Bah!
In the early 90's, it seemed reasonable to post only in text, but now days
it is more and more archaic.
Tom makes the rules, and so we should follow them.
But, folks who get bent out of shape over HTML, for what ever reason, are
fighting an uphill battle.
Peace,
Glen
ICQ 34239611
Drago Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Abit BX 6r2 1.8v | PIII 700 | Alpha PAL-6035
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8) From: Ryuji Suzuki -- JF7WEX
From: Tom & Maria 
Subject: Re: +No More HTML!
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:05:01 -0500
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Or maybe you might want to consider an indirect but easier way for now?
1. Make a separate page for ML posting guideline, highlighting the
HTML tag issue in ML postings, and how to set the email program
correctly. (among other things) As far as I know there was not such a
statement anywhere in the current ML description page, or at least not
easy to find. (Or my reading is just sloppy -- highly likely.)
2. Include a link in the footer:
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or at least at the top of the page indicated in the footer.
3. So people can learn of the issue more easily, as well as find out
how to fix.
My radical view. I don't read an email in HTML format only.
(I'm not too bothered if plain text is also included but
I don't like the idea of using HTML in emails, just like
cheap coffee in fancy packages with lots of trimmings.)
Those are usually junk emails. People who send me important
emails know not to use it. Same applies to attachments in
Microsoft Word format, or any platform-dependent format.
Even if they are important, I have a valid excuse not to
read them :-)
# ANTI-Microsoft since 1989.
# I only regret I din't give up MS stuff earlier.
--
Ryuji Suzuki
"I can't believe I'm here.
People always say that I'm a long way from normal."
(Bob Dylan, Normal, Illinois, 13 February 1999)
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9) From: John
Things change - - slowly!  When I went back for my masters in 1982 I had a
professor that would not allow computer print-out. The microperf on the
edges was he needed to feel and you were in trouble.  He also took exception
to the slash in the zero (prevalent in those days).  But if you wanted to be
a part of his class - you had an undergrad retype all your papers for him.
Here it is a simple check-mark on the contact listing and the computer will
reset the traffic to plain text - and then you are not a problem to those
using web mail.  If I had to work in web mail I would greatly appreciate not
having to look at all that garbage :O)
John - wandering aimlessly in deep southern Texas

10) From: Hugh Solaas
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
Oh, Bob, lighten up!  
Get a LIFE.  
Get  HTML!!!
 

11) From: John
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
 
  
 
 
  0
  DocumentEmail
  
 
<!--
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@font-face
	{font-family:"Copperplate Gothic Bold";
	panose-1:2 14 7 5 2 2 6 2 4 4;
	mso-font-charset:0;
	mso-generic-font-family:swiss;
	mso-font-pitch:variable;
	mso-font-signature:3 0 0 0 1 0;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Tahoma;
	panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;
	mso-font-charset:0;
	mso-generic-font-family:swiss;
	mso-font-pitch:variable;
	mso-font-signature:16792199 0 0 0 65791 0;}
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p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{mso-style-parent:"";
	margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
	font-size:12.0pt;
	font-family:"Times New Roman";
	mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{color:blue;
	text-decoration:underline;
	text-underline:single;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
	{color:blue;
	text-decoration:underline;
	text-underline:single;}
p.MsoAutoSig, li.MsoAutoSig, div.MsoAutoSig
	{margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
	font-size:12.0pt;
	font-family:"Times New Roman";
	mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}
span.EmailStyle17
	{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
	mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
	mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;
	mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;
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	color:navy;}
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ROFL!!!!!

 

 AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature" John Tobias

 

-----Original Message----- From: homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-admin]On Behalf Of Hugh Solaas Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 19:47 To: homeroast Subject: Re: +No More HTML!

 

Oh, Bob, lighten up!  Get a LIFE.  Get  HTML!!!

 


12) From: Glen Sutherland
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
 
  
 
 
  0
  DocumentEmail
  
 
@font-face {
	font-family: Copperplate Gothic Bold;
}
@font-face {
	font-family: Tahoma;
}
@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; }
P.MsoNormal {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
LI.MsoNormal {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
DIV.MsoNormal {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
A:link {
	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single
}
SPAN.MsoHyperlink {
	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single
}
A:visited {
	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single
}
SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {
	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single
}
P.MsoAutoSig {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
LI.MsoAutoSig {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
DIV.MsoAutoSig {
	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"
}
SPAN.EmailStyle17 {
	COLOR: navy; mso-style-type: personal-reply; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial
}
DIV.Section1 {
	page: Section1
}
Oh 
oh.
 

Peace, Glen ICQ 34239611 Drago Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus Abit BX 6r2 1.8v | PIII 700 | Alpha PAL-6035


13) From: Hokan
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 06:46:35PM -0800, Hugh Solaas wrote:
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Well, I've decided to deal with this HTML rudeness the
only way I can.
Goodbye.
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14) From: Glenn R. Holmes
yep. 
Set your reader to recieve text only.
Hokan wrote:
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15) From: Les and Becky
What is going on in our group!  I thought this was a coffee discussion, not
a text format discussion group.  I haven't read a good coffee remark in two
days.  Some you maybe need to switch to decaf! :-}  I don't roast monkey
blend.  I don't plan on buying monkey blend in the near future, but I have
picked up a few tips reading the posts.  Lets lighten up.  This is suppose
to be a fun group.  If you don't care for a post or the format, there is a
nice little place the mouse will go called "delete."  By the way, I found
"t"'s comment about e-bay interesting.  My wife has drawn the line with my 7
vacuum pots now in the house.  There is a really nice antique glass sunbeam
on e-bay right now!  Oh the temptation!  Well my beans are less than a mile
away in the UPS warehouse, so they should be here when I get home from
work!!!  I am looking forward to hearing from our new roasters.  I am still
waiting for opinions and tips on the new award winning Brazilians.
Hoping to get back on the coffee track,
Les
By the way what is HTML?
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16) From: John
Les - HTML is Hard To Make Liquid.  The subject is very fluid and can taste
bad if held too long over the heat :)
John - Who doesn't roast monkey blend - but certainly monkeys around with
blends.


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