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Topic: Rocky Grinder (31 msgs / 722 lines)
1) From: Thom Underwood
I received my Rocky grinder from Tom yesterday and tried it out this
morning.  What a difference!  I know there is a general preference for the
Mazer Mini here on the list but didn't want a doser (too lazy to clean it
out every day) and my counter situation is vertically challenged.
It never ceases to amaze me what a difference each aspect of coffee
preparation can make to the end taste.  From roaster (and roasting style) to
storage (green and especially roasted), to grinder (had used a Solis Maestro
for several years), to espresso machine.  Last month it was the new (well
new to me) Sid and Jerry's roaster, last week it was the Pasquini Livia, and
this week it's the Rocky grinder.
I still have lots to learn regarding all my new equipment and thank all of
you for your responses to my questions on and off the list. - Thom

2) From: R.N.Kyle
Congratulation Thom  you have a great home grinder that should last a
lifetime with care.
RK

3) From: John Lauck
I have a Rocky grinder that I've been using very lightly for about 2 years.
No more than 1/2 lb of coffee a month goes through it.  However, sometimes
the beans get stuck in the hopper/chamber causing the grinder to spin
without grinding anything.  I usually have to shake it or move the beans
around to get the beans down into the blades. Has anyone had that problem?
Is this expected?  If not, Is their a solution?

4) From: Dave
Have you removed the finger guard? 1st thing I did when I received
mine was remove the finger guards and put a little scotch tape over
the holes after replacing the screws. I've had to shake the grinder
only a couple times in six months or so of regular use.
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Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
On Jan 10, 2008 12:05 PM, John Lauck  wrote:
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5) From: Brett Mason
You might run some  rice through it.  This may remove just a
bit of the oils, causing the barrel and burrs to be less .
I use regular rice on mine, but  rice seems to be recommended
on this list...
Brett
On 1/10/08, John Lauck  wrote:
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6) From: Jim Gundlach
Get rid of the safety guard and be smart enough not to put your  
fingers in the burrs when running it.
     pecan jim
On Jan 10, 2008, at 2:05 PM, John Lauck wrote:
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7) From: Floyd Lozano
If the beans ever get that 'arch' effect (they just support them
selves) , use something like a pastry brush to poke them slightly.  I
usually use one to clear extra beans and bean fragments from the
hopper as I grind.  Be wery careful!
-F
On Jan 10, 2008 4:57 PM, Jim Gundlach  wrote:
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8) From: Sheila Quinn
Gee, why not? Might add some interesting flavors to the brew! (Sorry... 
couldn't resist.)
Sheila
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9) From: Floyd Lozano
You could just GO buy coffee at Wendy's for that flavor ;)
-F
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10) From: peterz
The bristles on my pastry brush are less than half as long now as when 
they started 3 years ago.
ymmv,
PeterZ
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11) From: Ross
I use a wood kabob stick and just poke the bean mass to get it going again, 
I have not ground the stick down any yet.  Very rare that my Rocky jams, 
because I have removed the finger guard and covered the screws with scotch 
tape.
Ross

12) From: John Lauck
Thanks for the tips.  I'll remove the guard, cover the screw holes and do my
best to not lose a finger.
I've heard about using rice to clean it out, but I can't imagine that I've
used the grinder enough for that to be necessary yet.
On Jan 11, 2008 1:31 PM, Ross  wrote:
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13) From: raymanowen
I ran some Hard Red Winter wheat (~1oz) through my BUFF Major. It actually
made white whole grain flour two steps above Zero. It's all clean and I
ground a cup of flour for a loaf of bread that is now awaiting me!
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
On Jan 11, 2008 1:11 PM, John Lauck  wrote:
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"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty
Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976

14) From: Lynne
I usually don't read the posts about grinders (I'll be using my whirly blade
til the cows come home - and believe me, I don't expect to see any cows in
this city.) But I read this comment of yours, Ray - and I'm curious.
Wouldn't this leave traces of flour in the grinder when you grind beans?
Aside from that (and getting off-topic a bit), how was the bread? I ground
my own flour once (back before I gave my daughter my
old, classic, stainless steel VitaMix.. sniff, sniff), and the bread tasted
incredible.
Lynne
(hoping I can understand your response, Ray! ;>})
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15) From: ray
They still have hand crank grain grinders on ebay they run under $20.00 and
cost about the same for shipping and you can use them to grind grain even
coffee or spices?  I am thinking of getting one and hooking up my Milwaukee
hole Hog 1/2 inch drill to the crank side  and have at it!  Love the Rube
Goldberg side of this endeavor of fresh coffee roasting and sure brings out
the inventiveness' in people have to love that!!!  Be sides it tastes good
too!

16) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
I use my Cordless drill on my Zass every day....
Works great! 
Dennis

17) From: raymanowen
"Wouldn't this leave traces of flour in the grinder when you grind beans?"
Right you are, Lynne, and I even forgot to reset the grinder last night whe=
n
I ground for a double of the PCE 1800mtrs+. "That looks really fine," and I
never gave it a second thought, until it stalled- about 2 seconds into the
shot. I still had it set on *2! *come to think of it. Coffee flour, with
almost zero inclusions, because I had vacuumed it after the wheat mill run.=
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*The Mazzer, although being an excellent design for grind consistency, is
probably the worst possible design for trapping coffee grounds- or whatever
it is you're trying to convert to small pieces, like your Rolex [I hope you
aren't still wearing it at the time]- might smart- under the burrs!
One of these days, I'll install some sort of ring under the identical burrs
to block entrance to the 12mm X 5mm staling chambers under them. As it is, =
I
vacuum after every grind and do a monthly nose-picking with an insidious
dental tool that I use for a spring hook normally.
I'm not taking those burrs out until I have the blocking rings made. (Maybe
use Marine Brass!) *
Voilà**! *Thanks for the inspiration, Lynne! Hobby Lobby has some brass
tubing that I could bend into a circle, cut the end, braze into a closed
loop and compress under the ID of the burrs. I could convert them to Marine
Brass if I toss them into a bucket of salt water before I use them...
Brass might crack with all the handling- even Marine Brass. Maybe some 1/8"
or bigger copper gas line from an auto parts store. Can't imagine going up
to Ryall Electric's counter and asking for one foot of 4Ga bare copper wire=
,
and two 4Ga uninsulated crimp butt splices.
"What are you doing this time, Ray?"
"That's confidential- you guys would laugh at me again..."
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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18) From: Ross
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Lynne,
You must have an amazing whirly blade, the ones I have owned could make =
even the best coffee bitter.  Remember how you could cook stuff with =
your old Vita Mix, guess what that whirly blade does to your coffee =
while it is also making a little bitter powder to go with your grind.  =
I'm hoping the cows come home and you try a good grinder to go with your =
good coffee.  
Ross

19) From: Sheila Quinn
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Ross,
I've had excellent coffee using only a whirly blade, so you must have 
bought the wrong grinders. There ARE better ones out there that don't 
cook the coffee as it's being ground. (There are also techniques to 
making the grind more even with them.) Not everyone can afford anything 
more expensive than that, but the right one will do a great job for drip 
brews. Obviously, it's no Rocky, but you can still have good coffee.
Sheila
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20) From: Jamie Dolan
Anyone here can afford this:
The cusinart burr grinder is $29.95 at Sams Club.  Similar prices as
other stores; when found on sale.
It had not been grinding fine enough to properly make (properly timed)
espresso.  However, the other night I pulled it apart and added a
small piece of card stock under the upper burr.  Now it grinds too
fine if I have it on the lowest setting.  My longest pull prior to the
modification was about 18 seconds.  My first (lightly tamped) pull
after the mod was 58 seconds.  If you want to try the modification on
a cusinart, it is easy, let me know if you need help.
I will still be getting a better grinder, I've just had a lot going on
and have not gotten around to it yet...
Thanks!
Jamie

21) From: Gary Townsend
On Jan 13, 2008 6:04 PM, Ross  wrote:
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Ross,
that condescending attitude is uncalled for.
Not everyone can afford a  $300. + grinder, and even though I do own a
Rocky, I still use a blade grinder at work 5 days a week.
Never had a bitter cup using an inexpensive blade grinder, but a better cup
is had with my little Rocky doing the chore. As long as one uses a quality
filtering system, pays attention to the extraction process, the coffee from
a whirly blade and a drip coffee maker will still be pretty nice.
Gary
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22) From: Lynne
Yes, actually I do have an amazing whirly blade, great greens from Sweet
Maria's, and a terrific little pot to roast my beans stovetop.
I also learned from my mother and father (who lived through tough times
during the Depression), and from my own school of hard-knocks, to be
satisfied with what I can afford - and to live within my means. Right now,
that means doing with very, very little.
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If the cows do come home, I'm *not* spending any precious money on a
grinder, believe me. Despite my love for this brew, I have a million things
that are more important in my life. I cannot, *will not* lust after the
latest toy that pops up on the horizon - this seems to be the plague of
modern society, and I don't want to be part of that.
Jamie Dolan  wrote:
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I realize that you are probably just trying to be helpful, James, but no,
"anyone here" can NOT afford this. You know what they say about assuming???
Well, it's true.
I, and many other people who don't advertise their finances, may not be able
to afford $29.95. You see, some people, despite our love and appreciation
for coffee, are more concerned with silly things like, oh.. paying rent...
buying food, stuff like that. Some people need to live on a budget, and many
people today (not just me, because I'm hearing the same story from many,
many others - and my gut tells me that things are going to get worse in the
U.S., in the years ahead) don't even have the money for a budget. That
amount of money may seem small to you - but to someone else - it's close to
a week of food (for several people, with some of those people being dogs,
btw).
Just for your information - I actually bought that same exact burr grinder a
few years ago, when life wasn't quite as lean as it is right now for me -
and, IMHNSO - it stinks. I hated it - hate the design, and hated the way it
was not possible to clean it out every time I ground coffee, leaving stale
coffee for the next grind (I have no intention of taking a machine apart
just to clean it). I also felt that it did not grind the beans properly, and
made my coffee taste awful. So I returned it to Costco (gotta love a place
that will take back ALL my returns), and I went back to my simple, bargain
Braun whirly blade.  That's me, though - I form my own opinions in the long
run - no matter what the general, popular opinion might be. Maybe with
espresso I'd make a difference - I don't know - but with my Mokapot and
French Press, I have incredible coffee, it makes me very happy.
I'll get off my soapbox now...
Lynne

23) From: Sandra Andina
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Hey, even this CoffeeGeek sometimes travels with a Starbucks whirly- 
blade, when I'm flying with my husband and son (with larger suitcases  
than when I'm on my own or by auto) and we need to grind up a pot's  
worth without giving me aching biceps and triceps. Shake it while  
grinding and don't let it run too long, and you'll be okay on the  
road--several steps ahead of the sawdust packets in hotel rooms and  
worlds ahead of the pale brown swill in the lobby. (And fresher than  
pre-ground, regardless of how you ground it before you left home).
Sandy Andina
www.myspace.com/sandyandina
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Hey, even this CoffeeGeek =
sometimes travels with a Starbucks whirly-blade, when I'm flying with my =
husband and son (with larger suitcases than when I'm on my own or by =
auto) and we need to grind up a pot's worth without giving me aching =
biceps and triceps. Shake it while grinding and don't let it run too =
long, and you'll be okay on the road--several steps ahead of the sawdust =
packets in hotel rooms and worlds ahead of the pale brown swill in the =
lobby. (And fresher than pre-ground, regardless of how you ground it =
before you left home).
 Sandy Andinawww.myspace.com/sandyandina 
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2008, at 10:16 PM, Lynne wrote:
Yes, = actually I do have an amazing whirly blade, great greens from Sweet = Maria's, and a terrific little pot to roast my beans stovetop. I = also learned from my mother and father (who lived through tough times = during the Depression), and from my own school of hard-knocks, to be = satisfied with what I can afford - and to live within my means. Right = now, that means doing with very, very little. = = --Apple-Mail-26-788180894--

24) From: Vicki Smith
I started grinding my own beans in the early 80s using my blender and 8 
o'clock coffee beans. It was a huge step forward. I use the whirly blade 
grinder SM sells if I don't have room for a full kit when I travel. It 
may not be my Rocky, but I can still get a very nice (and not bitter) 
cup of coffee out of it.
vicki
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25) From: Jamie Dolan
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Yes, I was just trying to be helpful.  I saw the post about it being
difficult for people to afford the $300 rocky grinder, and when
composing this e-mail I truely thought that a $30 "solution" to the
problem would be something that would be very helpful and would not
cause the level of financial hardship that was being encounterd with
the $300 rocky.  Again I applogize for assuming.  I should never
assume, and I normally try hard not to...  Perhaps I had too much
caffine again yesterday.
Please accept my humble apology for any level of offense I may have caused.
I realized after I wrote this that it might have come off wrong.  I
should not have assumed that anyone here could afford $30.
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I have no great love for the grinder, other than, it does seem to be
doing a somewhat OK job for the price, and I am getting better results
with it than what I used to get with a blade grinder.  I know it is
not ideal at all.
I was rather pleased with myself for making the modification that
"worked" and made the grinder more usable.
Again, I do apologize for my false assumption.  I got carried away
with my bargain grinder and my handyman "upgrade" and was anxious to
share.
I have been enjoying this list and it members over the past few weeks,
and would like to continue to do so.
Respectfully;
Jamie

26) From: Floyd Lozano
I don't think he was being mean - how many (many many many many many)
times have we read on this list 'get a better grinder'.
-F
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27) From: Lynne
Sorry, Jamie. Been in a lot of pain lately, and it's made my nerves on edge.
I usually
avoid talking (either in person or online) when I'm in a lot of pain - just
for this reason.
(Add all the caffeine that I was having this weekend on top of *that,*too...)
I'm happy with the whirly blade. No problem here. But I do love creative
solutions for
any problems (most of the ones talked about on this list are above and
beyond my
understanding, however, lol)
Take care - and I apologize if I turned into a dragon-lady!
Lynne
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28) From: Jamie Dolan
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I hope your feeling better soon.
Best Regards;
Jamie

29) From: Lynne
Lynne wrote:
"Wouldn't this leave traces of flour in the grinder when you grind beans?"
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And that means, Ray, that you had the makings for some coffee-flavored
biscotti!
Lynne
(my motto: don't throw *anything* out!!)

30) From: raymanowen
Nothing *Has* gotten pitched out - except Corvair engine parts... I'm glad,
because I've had visions of a 50kw generator set based on a Corvair engine.
That stalled shot made for a Mondo Ristretto, but this morning's shots of
PCE 1800mtrs+ were "the best yet," to a high degree of reliability
Right now, there's a gorgeous loaf allegedly waiting. I used white bread
flour plus cracked wheat and oats this time, since I already have >30# of
the bulk flour.
Cheers, Mabuhay, tung hô -RayO, aka Opa!
I know where it's sitting- what's its Setting?
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31) From: homeroast
I think this is the trademark of a Rocky... with or without the finger
guard.  I just used one of my coffee scoops to knock the beans around
a little when they get stuck.  This must be why most grinders seem to
have more of a cone shaped hopper instead of round...
LarryD
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