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Topic: my HW Precision (28 msgs / 697 lines)
1) From: Elixbar
I've been receiving this list for some time now, and decided to try 
homeroasting for myself. After hearing many comments about the best method of 
roasting, I chose the HW Precision over any other machine or method. I sent 
my check and waited with anticipation for my precision and my first order of 
beans to arrive. I was extremely disappointed with the results. Let me 
explain:
First of all, the manual that comes with the machine was only a few pages and 
did not give any instructions regarding the adjustment of the flame. After 
putting the beans into the roaster, the flames went 3/4 of the way up the 
glass globe. I thought that this was a little too high. Also, the flame was 
not blue, but was yellow and was very inneficient. I turned the adjustment 
knob on the front of the Precision, but could not make the flame change in 
size or color. After fifteen roasts, not only was every batch completely 
burned within 60 seconds, but my home was completely filled with smoke, white 
walls now blackened and smudged, and my cat was overcome with nausea that 
kept me up into the night cleaning my carpets. Can ANYONE with experience 
with the HWP PLEASE HELP ME resolve my difficulties. My cat and I will be 
extremely grateful.
Jim and Snuggy

2) From: Ed Needham
Obviously, you've failed to use the stovetop model 'heat deflector', which
comes at an additional cost.  What you've experienced is what many others
also have with the HWP...the dreaded meltdown.  Yours was rapidly
accelerated by the 'flame', since you didn't purchase the heat deflector.
Another possibility is that you've gotten the Starbux model by mistake, and
it is working exceptionally well.
Ed Needham

3) From: Fookoo Network
This sounds like a defective unit.  I have never seen flames shoot
out of mine.  Would seem that you will have to either return the
unit to where you bought it or send it into Hearthware.  If the
later, it will take at least three weeks to get another replacement in a
swap.  You can call Hearthware tech support and see what they have
to say about the flames.
There is enough info on the Sweet Maria's website to give you guidance
when using the HWP.   
Carl
At 11:48 PM 3/28/01 -0500, you wrote:
I've been receiving
this list for some time now, and decided to try 
homeroasting for myself. After hearing many comments about the best
method of 
roasting, I chose the HW Precision over any other machine or method. I
sent 
my check and waited with anticipation for my precision and my first order
of 
beans to arrive. I was extremely disappointed with the results. Let me
explain: 
First of all, the manual that comes with the machine was only a few pages
and 
did not give any instructions regarding the adjustment of the flame.
After 
putting the beans into the roaster, the flames went 3/4 of the way up the
glass globe. I thought that this was a little too high. Also, the flame
was 
not blue, but was yellow and was very inneficient. I turned the
adjustment 
knob on the front of the Precision, but could not make the flame change
in 
size or color. After fifteen roasts, not only was every batch completely
burned within 60 seconds, but my home was completely filled with smoke,
white 
walls now blackened and smudged, and my cat was overcome with nausea that
kept me up into the night cleaning my carpets. Can ANYONE with experience
with the HWP PLEASE HELP ME resolve my difficulties. My cat and I will be
extremely grateful. 
Jim and Snuggy 

4) From: Henry C. Davis
I think I burst a blood vessel in my throat laughing at this.... made me
forget for a moment about the newly developed squeal my Precision makes
after only 5 months. (after only 320 or so batches!)
maybe you need to adjust the subspace field harmonics calibration screw on
the bottom...:-)

5) From: Tom & Maria
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I have to admit, I am totally confued by the post below (which came to the
list through a bounce to the listserv) . Do you really think someone put
the HW on a stovetop ... I just cant figure it out? Or is it a joke and I
am just too tired to get it?
Tom
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6) From: Henry C. Davis
Well, if it isn't a joke, it should be. Can you tell using the list software
if that address is actually subscribed to the list? I thought it was one of
the regulars using an alias to spoof some of the problems with HWP units and
the concurrent discussion about the existence, amount and nature of smoke
from the roasting process.... On the off chance it isn't a joke, I can't
explain it, since even if one had an HWP that was so defective it sent
flames into the unit, he would have only gotten ONE roast that way before it
melted into a pile of goo and set his dwelling on fire...

7) From: Michael Allen Smith
I'd like to see some photos of this "flame-thrower" modification.
mas
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8) From: Jonathan Ziman
Well this person's experience is quite different from mine! I just got my
HWP this afternoon and have just finished my very first roast. No flames!
No black smoke! No sick cats! 
I'm very happy. :-)
Everything went really well. No horror stories. I had the vent over the
stove going full blast plus a fan and an air filter, and that kept the
smell in the kitchen pretty much. Besides, I like it. The wife is out
right now at class so we'll see what she says when she gets home. Which
reminds me, I need to whip up some decaf for her now....
Thanks for everyone's comments on this list! I've been hanging out in the
background trying to learn from you all for a while. Now I've taken the
plunge I can't wait to put some of these ideas into practice.
So... how on EARTH do you make yourself wait before grinding and brewing!
The temptation is very strong to not let the beans de-gas at all.... but I 
will. For now. I might cave in tomorrow morning though. ;-)
Here are some photos of my first roast. Not great, but if you're
interested:http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u18114&a353823Jonathan
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9) From: Michael Allen Smith
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Your Columbian Popayan Supremo roast will be fine to drink tommorow morning.
I've found that Central and South American beans taste great with an 8-12
hour degas period.  I still wait 2-3 days on Africian and Indonesian.
mas
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10) From: John Roche
Re: +my HW Precision
It's not quite April Fools day is it?
jmr
on 3/28/01 11:48 PM, Elixbar at Elixbar wrote:
I've been receiving this list for some time now, and decided to try 
homeroasting for myself. After hearing many comments about the best method of 
roasting, I chose the HW Precision over any other machine or method. I sent 
my check and waited with anticipation for my precision and my first order of 
beans to arrive. I was extremely disappointed with the results. Let me 
explain: 
First of all, the manual that comes with the machine was only a few pages and 
did not give any instructions regarding the adjustment of the flame. After 
putting the beans into the roaster, the flames went 3/4 of the way up the 
glass globe. I thought that this was a little too high. Also, the flame was 
not blue, but was yellow and was very inneficient. I turned the adjustment 
knob on the front of the Precision, but could not make the flame change in 
size or color. After fifteen roasts, not only was every batch completely 
burned within 60 seconds, but my home was completely filled with smoke, white 
walls now blackened and smudged, and my cat was overcome with nausea that 
kept me up into the night cleaning my carpets. Can ANYONE with experience 
with the HWP PLEASE HELP ME resolve my difficulties. My cat and I will be 
extremely grateful. 
Jim and Snuggy 

11) From: coffenut
Jonathan,
As one of our listmates said, make sure you have some Central or South
American beans on hand for those times that you're out, forgot to roast in
time, etc.  They will cure very nicely over night and you're good to go the
next morning.  If you can get about 2 days ahead of when you're gonna run
out, that's a good time to be roasting.  Just this week I was in your
situation (out of coffee with less than 24 hrs before morn).  I roasted some
of Tom's Guatemalan La Tacita and then some Harar.  The Guat was ready to go
at 6am the next morning and tasted great.
I had to chuckle as I was viewing your pictures, not that it was the
pictures...they're great and your roast has a nice color.  But, I knew I've
got it bad, when I enjoy looking at other people's "first born" pictures.
Congratulations...its a bean!!
Coffenut  :^)
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12) From: cationic
If it is not a joke, sounds like he ordered a HW Precision Roaster and got a
vacuum brewer instead (a Cona or Yama or Bodum?).
Regards,
Rafael

13) From: EuropaChris
Beats me.  Sounds like someone was a little too busy sniffing glue lately...
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14) From: EuropaChris
Maybe he mistakenly got a coal fired prototype unit.  Hearthware is thinking ahead for the California power crisis this summer.  What the heck, just bypass the electricity generation stage and use the fuel directly to roast your coffee.
Ahhh, I love the smell of bituminous coal burning in the morning....
Chris
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15) From: Glenn R. Holmes
Looks like someone practicing for Sunday, April 1. Tom
You're too tired.  :=)
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16) From: Glenn R. Holmes
I subscribe to the Journal of Irreproducible Results. 
In that publication they describe a combination Rocket Launcher/Coffee
Roaster combination. Very efficient unit actually. 
ON alt.coffee I submitted plans for high altitude roasting using an
exhaust bypass and ducting heat to a coffee roasting chamber. Perhaps
you would be interested? The residents of that ng apparently are too
dim-witted to appreciate the merits of good aeronautics engineering and
its application to the coffee roasting/brewing process. 
Hmmm.. Maybe I should submit the plans for both to the military.  
Glenn 
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17) From: Dave Huddle
Jim,
SWITCH TO DECAF!   And get a new di-lithium crystal from Home Depot or
Ace Hardware.
Also, if this is too much for Snuggy, we have 6 kittens, two weeks old,
and their mom - available for adoption through  www.petpromise.org
Dave	Westerville, OH		just 25 minutes from SweetMaria's 
				and a couple of days from April 1st
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18) From: Smokering
Maybe I'm missing something, but I have roasted several roasts (all around city) on my HWP and I get very minimal smoke.  I haven't placed it directly under the stove hood, the kitchen hasn't smoked up nor has my wife complained. I guess when I roast into second crack maybe I will get the amount of smoke you guys are talking about.
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19) From: Monty Harris
Jim and Snuggy,
You have the unit up side down! The flames should rain down from the top
not up from the bottom.
I know it looks like it should sit the other way around but as you
pointed out the instructions are vague.  Try to resist doing it the
obvious way and start thinking it through, before you burn the house
down!
There should be a test before people are allowed to ruin good coffee
beans!
Monty
At 11:48 PM 3/28/01 EST, you wrote: 
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arialI've been receiving this list
for some time now, and decided to try 
homeroasting for myself. After hearing many comments about the best
method of 
roasting, I chose the HW Precision over any other machine or method. I
sent 
my check and waited with anticipation for my precision and my first order
of 
beans to arrive. I was extremely disappointed with the results. Let me 
explain: 
First of all, the manual that comes with the machine was only a few pages
and 
did not give any instructions regarding the adjustment of the flame.
After 
putting the beans into the roaster, the flames went 3/4 of the way up the 
glass globe. I thought that this was a little too high. Also, the flame
was 
not blue, but was yellow and was very inneficient. I turned the
adjustment 
knob on the front of the Precision, but could not make the flame change
in 
size or color. After fifteen roasts, not only was every batch completely 
burned within 60 seconds, but my home was completely filled with smoke,
white 
walls now blackened and smudged, and my cat was overcome with nausea that 
kept me up into the night cleaning my carpets. Can ANYONE with experience 
with the HWP PLEASE HELP ME resolve my difficulties. My cat and I will be 
extremely grateful. 
Jim and Snuggy 
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20) From: Fulton Martin
 
I, too, wondered what all the talk about smoke was. I usually roast in 
the garage in the evening, and although I could smell it, I never *saw* 
any smoke.
Last weekend, I was roasting in the afternoon, with the garage door 
open--lots of smoke! Just couldn't see it in the dimmer artificial 
light at night.
--On Friday, March 30, 2001 10:50 AM +0000 Smokering wrote:
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21) From: Paul Goelz
At 08:03 AM 3/30/01 -0800, you wrote:
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Jim and Snuggy,
You have the unit up side down! The flames should rain down from the top not up from the bottom.
I know it looks like it should sit the other way around but as you pointed out the instructions are vague.  Try to resist doing it the obvious way and start thinking it through, before you burn the house down!
There should be a test before people are allowed to ruin good coffee beans!
Monty
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Aw c'mon, let him in on the secret!  Seems he is the last to know that he HAS THE PLUG IN BACKWARDS!
There, now you know.  
Paul Goelz
Rochester Hills, MI
pgoelz at eaglequest dot com
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22) From: Steve

23) From: EuropaChris
 Maybe he mistakenly got a coal fired prototype unit.  Hearthware is thinking ahead for the California power crisis this summer.  What the heck, just bypass the electricity generation stage and use the fuel directly to roast your coffee.
Ahhh, I love the smell of bituminous coal burning in the morning....
 
Chris
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24) From: EuropaChris
Beats me.  Sounds like someone was a little too busy sniffing glue lately...
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25) From: EuropaChris
Beats me.  Sounds like someone was a little too busy sniffing glue lately...
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26) From: TFisher511
In a message dated 3/30/01 10:51:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
Smokering writes:
Maybe I'm missing something, but I have roasted several roasts (all around 
city) on my HWP and I get very minimal smoke.  I haven't placed it directly 
under the stove hood, the kitchen hasn't smoked up nor has my wife 
complained. I guess when I roast into second crack maybe I will get the 
amount of smoke you guys are talking about.
But just wait and see what happens when you plug it in. Oh, probably skipped 
over the introduction in the manual.

27) From: Steven L. Johnson
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No flames with any of mine ( had 3 in the last year 
-- but that's another story ).   Check Sweet Maria's web site -- he 
goes beyond the manual and gives good pointers on helping the longevity of the 
machine. 
 
I would suspect -- as noted by others -- that this 
is a defective model.   HW has excellent customer service and will 
help you out.  
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28) From: Smokering
Nope.....sorry, unlike you we don't inbreed. ;)


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