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Topic: Air popper vs.. anything else... (14 msgs / 298 lines)
1) From: Dennis Parham
Ok... here is a subject... lol  has anyone noticed... when someone 
talks about roasting techniques... the Poppery (air poppers) are only 
discussed on how to modify them for convenience and technique...lol 
.... but most everything else it is always a technical issue.... chaff =
catches not working... burned up... what not..... but the tried and 
true Poppery still working...lol  and then the HOLY GRAIL of Poppers... =
  Poppery (Mark I)  lol   what are the shortcomings of a poppers aside =
small batches...?
( The Dog bowl method is basically the cowboy version.. so nothing to 
go wrong there too...lol) and Drum... well   seems great... non of 
these seem to have many problems... only the commercial machines MADE 
for roasting...lol  is the roast SO good in the commercial units that 
it is worth sacrificing longevity and adding quirkiness???
just food for thought...
Dennis Parham
On Aug 29, 2004, at 8:45 AM, Dennis Parham wrote:
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2) From: AlChemist John
Sometime around 07:07 AM 8/29/2004, Dennis Parham typed:
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3) From: Dennis Parham
let me rephrase something....   I mean to say  home  machines made for =
roasting.. not commercial machines.... hehehe  I don't know about 
them.... yet ;)
Dennis Parham
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4) From: Ben Treichel
Dennis Parham wrote:
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Actaully the mod's are to overcome the percieved shortcomings. Fan 
boosters & tilting to raise the capacity, and switches et.al to slow the 
roast to trade short air roasts extra brightness for for additonal drum 
like body.

5) From: Oaklandguy
I think the air poppers are pretty nearly perfect - if they could handle =
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little more roasting capacity, it would make me very happy.  I don't =
need to
do a pound at a time, but being able to do 8 oz. in one sitting would be
perfect.  It's simplicity is it's beauty - blow chaff into a bowl, =
portable,
somewhat easy to manage times for 1st and 2nd cracks, etc.  Also, once =
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get times down for a roast, they're pretty stable from one batch of the =
same
beans to the next.
But in some moments, I do dream of the perfectly modded air popper, and =
this
just may be it:http://www.valley-popcorn.com/Qstore/p000133.htmBrent

6) From: Ben Treichel
Oaklandguy wrote:
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I do maintain that my pid'ed p1 is as close as I have gotten to a home 
built popper.

7) From: Dennis Parham
ok... now THATS a POPPER!! HAHAHA  um... one problem again.. when you 
leave the realm of the poppery you have problems surface!!  NO chaff 
collector!! lol
Dennis Parham
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8) From: Dennis Parham
I bet those NEVER come up pre-owned...lol SHEESH! be great to 
experiment with hu?? lol
Dennis Parham
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9) From: Ben Treichel
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:-[    insert "perfectly modded"
still jet lagged (aka bicoastal)

10) From: AlChemist John
Sometime around 07:07 AM 8/29/2004, Dennis Parham typed:
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You have to modify them yourself, and the WB I are a little rare.  That is 
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John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.dreamsandbones.net/blog/http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

11) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
On Aug 29, 2004, at 9:07 AM, Dennis Parham wrote:
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This is my impression also.  I have decided to stick with the methods 
that give me more control and have not left the impression that there 
is a problem waiting to happen.  So I roast with a wok on a fire and/or 
heat gun, Androck over the fire popcorn popper, and BBQ drum over pecan 
wood fires.   I have a few poppers and a Whirley Pop but it has been 
years since I've used them.
      Jim Gundlach

12) From: Gary Townsend
But in some moments, I do dream of the perfectly modded air popper, 
and thisjust may be it:http://www.valley-popcorn.com/Qstore/p000133.htmBrent
From: Dennis Parham 
Subject: Re: +Air popper vs.. anything else...
I bet those NEVER come up pre-owned...lol SHEESH! be great to experiment with hu?? lol
Dennis, they lease them! 
Sorta like a 12,000 dollar RENTAL car ! Could you imagine the smoke pouring out of it with 40 - 50 lbs roasting??? Let alone the amount of Chaff flying out all over the place during your 20 lb 'sample' roasts !!! Let's put it on your CC, and take it out to Arizona or New Mexico and order 1/2 a semi of UGH ! to do the testing ! Then shoot a video (pilot) for a TV show, like, maybe BIG! 
OK, I'm going back to sorting out my 'Keep' -'Yard-Sale' - and 'Donate' stuff, getting ready for moving into my New House in October. BTW, I have 1 ea. Poppery 1, 3 ea Poppery 2's, 2 Weaver 'Pumpers' and a modern looking Poppery 2. I think that I can stop looking around for more of them, now. Heck, the shelf in my garage looks like a thrift store !!!
 
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still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs,
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13) From: Lesley Albjerg
I was a die-hard Air popper roaster until I tried the HGDB method.  It does 12 oz in my DB with a lot of control.  Now I am a lazy RK drum roaster!   Pre heat, load the beans, set the first temp by themometer, kick back in the lawn chair and wait for the grassy smell, check heat and time, make adjust if needed,  kick back some more, listening for first crack.  After first crack begins get up and tend the roast.  Time and temp to reach your target. Stop drum, dump and cool!  Nice and simple relaxing way to roast!   I have my set points figured out on the BBQ.  I char-bucked one roast, but yesterday morning, I RKed a very nice city roast Brazilian Decaf for our Book Club meeting last night.  Everyone wanted more!  I am going to be concentrating on my 1lb roasts for now.  I roasted 3 pounds of Panama LaBerlina.  That is a bit much.  I like to drink  more than one varietal a week.  After getting the one pound roasts dialed in, I am going to work on the 1/2 pounders.  One thing I 
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 about the RK is that it is so forgiving and gives you a lot of control.
 
Les
Ben Treichel  wrote:
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I do maintain that my pid'ed p1 is as close as I have gotten to a home 
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14) From: Verdova Bishop
LOL.  Cheap at any price!


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