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Topic: Toastmaster Routine (and Carina....) (14 msgs / 560 lines)
1) From: Tim TenClay
First, the on-topic stuff....
I served home-roasted, hand-ground coffee to my class last night and they
devoured it.  Mostly they just shook their heads - they're used to me trying
"different" things :-)
Also roasted a batch of the UGH! that I just got and a batch of a Columbian
bean that I just got in a sampler - of course, haven't tasted either, yet.
Thanks to hints from many of you, I've slowed my roast down almost by
double...here's what I'm doing.
First, I suppose I should explain, I use a Toastmaster (ROASTS VERY
QUICKLY).  I've been reaching, what I believe to be, 2nd crack at about 4
min. 30 sec.!  (There was very little break between 1st and 2nd - if any.)
Here's the routine I've tried now several times, it seems consistant:  I
pour the beans OUT of the popper into a strainer for 30 seconds ever minute
or so.  Precisely, they "rest" in my strainer when my stopwatch reaches:
    1:30-2:00
    3:00-3:30
    4:30-5:00
    6:00-6:30
    7:30-8:00
    9:00-9:30
1st crack seems to be starting just as I pour the beans out for the 4:30
rest.  2nd crack seems to consistantly start right around 10:30.  At 10:40,
I'm a little ways into 2nd crack (I think :-)
My wife likes it; I like it; it seems consistant enough that I can actually
try it with some different beans and educate those taste buds....
--
Regarding Carina, she is, in fact, our Iggy (Italian Greyhound) - it's a
small, but relatively ancient breed of sighthounds.  They look exactly like
a whippet or full-sized greyhound, but are much smaller - Carina maxes out
at 10 pounds, and we shoving fat foods down her throat! (If only I had that
problem!)
The wonderful thing about It. Greyhounds, is that they aren't "bread down"
through a series of breading runts - that means that they don't have a lot
of the health problems that other "toy" dogs have.
Interested?  I popped up a couple of picture at:http://web.triton.net/t/tenclay/carina.htmGrace and peace,
  `tim

2) From: Gregg Reno
Tim,
Have you tried using a long extension cord to slow the roast? I'm using =
a 50
foot cord, and that extended my first crack from 4 min 30 sec to 8 =
minutes.
I'm using a Poppery II, but I would think it would work for the =
Toastmaster.
The only downside is that I have to stir for a longer period in the
beginning because the fan power is reduced.
-Gregg

3) From: Edward Spiegel
At 10:28 AM -0400 9/22/04, Tim TenClay wrote:
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Hi Tim,
Welcome to the list. Very cool technique. I have a page full of low-tech tips for extending a ToastMaster's roasts. I recommend taking a look at it if you are aware of it.http://www.edwardspiegel.org/coffeeClick on the popper tips pages.
You might find some of the slow down techniques helpful (they're all simple).
Best,
Edward

4) From: Edward Spiegel
At 12:05 PM -0400 9/22/04, Gregg Reno wrote:
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Even just tilting the Toastmaster and taking the lid off (using a tin can as a chimney instead) will extend roast times on a TM and make the result much more controllable and much more yummy.
Also, check the amt. of beans. Using a bit less than 1/2 cup will slow down the roast, too. The most important thing is to keep the first crack from rolling into the second.
Best,
Edward

5) From: Dennis Parham
my 2 cents...  if you use an extension cord for me didn't drop it 
much...so I added a 3way (3 prong) and added another poppery and in the 
3rd receptacle I added my voltmeter....  with the heater running on the 
other machine.. it easily dropped my over-voltage I was getting....  
the good thing is... you can get another popper for same price of  some 
extension cords..  or close enough...
here are some QUICK PICS...down and dirty setup just to show ya what I 
did....http://homepage.mac.com/dparham_is/PhotoAlbum14.htmlDennis Parham
On Sep 22, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Gregg Reno wrote:
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6) From: Gregg Reno
Correction - it's actually a 100' cord I'm using.  One other thing I =
noticed
is that it's hard to get into second crack with a cord this long.  To =
push
it over the edge, I unplug from the 100' cord well after 1st crack at =
about
12:00 and plug it into a 6' cord for the rest of the roast.
I've noticed a big improvement since extending the roast.  I finish now
around 18 minutes.
-Gregg

7) From: Rick Farris
Make sure you know where the breakers are, and that you have a =
flashlight
handy before you try this solution...
-- Rick
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Wind Variable at 5 mph (14:09:00)
ICBM: N31 34.015' W110 14.717'
Now Playing: Carl Perkin - Blue Suede Shoes - 1956

8) From: Edward Spiegel
Hi Dennis,
It sounds like you are using too short or too high a quality of cord. A lot depends on the extension cord you use. I have two medium duty 100 ft extension cords (they were about $10) and each of them (by themselves) extends my ToastMaster by almost double and my Poppery II from 8 minute to 13 minute roasts.
Of course, if using two poppers at once works for you, that's great. I personally prefer to run only one popper at a time in order to both extend the lives of the poppers and to keep the amount of 'lectricity to a minimum (granted that a roast's worth of electricity isn't that much) not too mention not wanting to trip the circuit breakers if my wife runs the microwave while I'm roasting.
Best,
Edward
At 1:55 PM -0500 9/22/04, Dennis Parham wrote:
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9) From: Jeffrey A. Bertoia
Great suggestion Rick...
Rick Farris wrote:
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10) From: Dennis Parham
yea... this is my temporary setup.. I have tried several extension 
cords.. even old ones with not much difference in voltage... go figure! 
  the best way is use a variac I guess..... sheesh... more $  lol I have 
to keep everything very portable  for now... but when I have space 
permanently for these endeavors , I will get something setup... drum? 
or something like a real commercial sample roaster.....
  for now Im working on acquiring the SC/GG setup...  have the Stir 
crazy, just need a Galloping gourmet ...
Dennis Parham
On Sep 22, 2004, at 4:50 PM, Edward Spiegel wrote:
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11) From: Jared Andersson
In Dennis' defence I also have lots of juice comming out of my shop sockets and often roast with two poppers comming out of the same power strip.  I haven't experienced any problems, it lengthens my roast nicely and I kind of like the tiny thrill of sticking my head between the two roasts to listen for which is cracking and when.  Jared, tiny thrill seeker
Edward Spiegel  wrote:Hi Dennis,
It sounds like you are using too short or too high a quality of cord. A lot depends on the extension cord you use. I have two medium duty 100 ft extension cords (they were about $10) and each of them (by themselves) extends my ToastMaster by almost double and my Poppery II from 8 minute to 13 minute roasts.
Of course, if using two poppers at once works for you, that's great. I personally prefer to run only one popper at a time in order to both extend the lives of the poppers and to keep the amount of 'lectricity to a minimum (granted that a roast's worth of electricity isn't that much) not too mention not wanting to trip the circuit breakers if my wife runs the microwave while I'm roasting.
Best,
Edward
At 1:55 PM -0500 9/22/04, Dennis Parham wrote:
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12) From: Dennis Parham
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hehehe... yea....I only roast in one of the chambers though.... ~1/2 
cup give or take an oz.. depending on bean of choice....:-D
Dennis Parham
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hehehe... yea....I only roast in one of the chambers though.... ~1/2
cup give or take an oz.. depending on bean of choice....:-D
Dennis Parham 
On Sep 22, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Jared Andersson wrote:
In Dennis' defence I also have lots of juice comming out of
my shop sockets and often roast with two poppers comming out of the
same power strip. I haven't experienced any problems, it lengthens my
roast nicely and I kind of like the tiny thrill of sticking my head
between the two roasts to listen for which is cracking and when.
Jared, tiny thrill seeker
Edward Spiegel
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 Hi Dennis,
It sounds like you are using too short or too high a quality of cord.
A lot depends on the extension cord you use. I have two medium duty
100 ft extension cords (they were about $10) and each of them (by
themselves) extends my ToastMaster by almost double and my Poppery II
from 8 minute to 13 minute roasts.
Of course, if using two poppers at once works for you, that's great. I
personally prefer to run only one popper at a time in order to both
extend the lives of the poppers and to keep the amount of 'lectricity
to a minimum (granted that a roast's worth of electricity isn't that
much) not too mention not wanting to trip the circuit breakers if my
wife runs the microwave while I'm roasting.
Best,
Edward
At 1:55 PM -0500 9/22/04, Dennis Parham wrote:
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much... so I added a 3way (3 prong) and added another poppery and in
the 3rd receptacle I added my voltmeter.... with the heater running on
the other machine.. it easily dropped my over-voltage I was
getting.... the good thing is... you can get another popper for same
price of some extension cords.. or close enough...
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I did....

13) From: Tim TenClay
Greetings All...
Thanks for all of the great ideas.  I've tried the extension chord thing and
it seemed to work, some.  I've also tried tipping - although I didn't find
it did all that much.
Been having tons of fun - just had my first cup of the UGH! coffee I roasted
Sunday - started out just fine, but, as soon as it cooled down enough to NOT
burn my tongue, it started getting worse and worse -- definately
"Educational"!
Grace and Peace,
  `tim
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Tim TenClay + tim
Knots and More "A Single Stop for All Your Tatting Needs"http://www.knotsandmore.com

14) From: Edward Spiegel
At 12:14 PM -0400 9/23/04, Tim TenClay wrote:
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Hi Tim,
Are you roasting with the top on or off? How much coffee are you roasting? In a Toastmaster the amount makes a huge difference--a tablespoon or two less than 1/2 cup will roast slower than a heaping 1/2 cup -- as one example.
Keep in mind that not all cords are created equal. In this case, medium or light duty 75 ft. to 100 ft cords are better than heavy duty cords. If you use a really high-quality cord you won't get much benefit.
Best,
Edward


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