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Topic: The Difference (24 msgs / 491 lines)
1) From: gin
taste and about 6oz...
ginny
rick will jump in here since he is the King of Crema, and Les Mr. Tamper.

2) From: gin
les,
you be right, 2x4 makes a GREAT americano...
my new name for it is  protestacano...
g

3) From: gin
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OH please................
ginny

4) From: MMore
O.K..  For terminology's sake, could anyone please give the definition  of a 
Cafe Crema and Americano?
 
Thanks!
 
Michael A. Roaster of Vienna,  Va.

5) From: Ben Treichel
MMore wrote:
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An Americano is an espresso shot that has had water added to it after 
brewing. A Cafe Crema passes extra water thru the espresso maker during 
brewing.
FYI, the original Americano's were espressos that the Italians watered 
down, while (my $0.02) Americano's made by most people at home are not 
espresso blends intended for espresso, but for extraction via a espresso 
machine.
Ben

6) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Ben Treichel wrote:
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Huh? I'm not an espresso person, but I can usually understand what's 
being said.
How does "espresso blends intended for espresso" differ from "for 
extraction via a espresso machine"?
Dave S.

7) From: Wandering John
A Cafe Crema is Italian for God Shot!   It is either 5 or 6 ounces
pulled in one continuous shot.   And that was the primary reason I
bought my Solis Master 5000 (SM5K).   An Americano is a cup of coffee
created by pulling a 2 ounce shot and then filling the cup the rest of
the way with hot water.  It smooths out the bite of the espresso
without killing off the taste.  You will find some coffee shops
(especially in Texas and Mexico) that have no idea what either of
these are - so don't feel unique :o)
John - Our door is always open to coffee hounds and I pull a perfect Cafe Crema!
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8) From: miKe mcKoffee
John, John, John a Cafe' Crema may be God Shot for the Swiss but not the
Italians! (You're definitely back in stride though:-)
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmWandering John homeroast
Sun Oct 24 14:50:00 2004
  a.. A Cafe Crema is Italian for God Shot!   It is either 5 or 6 ounces
  pulled in one continuous shot.   And that was the primary reason I
  bought my Solis Master 5000 (SM5K).   An Americano is a cup of coffee
  created by pulling a 2 ounce shot and then filling the cup the rest of
  the way with hot water.  It smooths out the bite of the espresso
  without killing off the taste.  You will find some coffee shops
  (especially in Texas and Mexico) that have no idea what either of
  these are - so don't feel unique :o)
  John - Our door is always open to coffee hounds and I pull a perfect Cafe
Crema!

9) From: Bob Baker
John,
Glad to hear you are getting to be out and about,
after I read the details about your illness.
Where do you live?
We made a trip down to the hill country *my 1st* this spring, and had
a good time.
Have a good trip,
Bob/Dallas
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:49:24 -0500, Wandering John  
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10) From: Wandering John
I was first turned to the Solis Master by an Italian who told me that
it made to kill for Cafe Creme - I didn't know what it was and then
(name eludes me) a student in Holland sent me a bunch of off list
information - then  Europa Chris put the nail in my budget with his
account from his experience in Europe.     I was just deferring to the
kings of espresso out of their natural rank as kings of koffee.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:57:07 -0700, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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11) From: Wandering John
Bob,
If I couldn't live here - and could afford it - I'd live in the Hill
Country.   I live 1500 yards from Mexico in Mission TX.  (the tip of
TX).
 
I'm almost drunk with health.  I was mobbed in church this morning by
folks glad to see me up, walking and smiling.  Took 45 friends with us
to lunch at Lube's.
John - living large in the slow lane 
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:57:13 -0500, Bob Baker  wrote:
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12) From: Bob Baker
John,
LuAnn Platters for everyone.....!!!!
No one else is going to get that...lol
Bob
Wandering John wrote:
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13) From: miKe mcKoffee

14) From: Dennis Parham
Hey BOB  i GOT IT!!! hehehe ..but I like the full portions! :P
Dennis Parham
On Oct 24, 2004, at 3:28 PM, Bob Baker wrote:
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15) From: Bob Baker
Thought you'd get it Dennis.
We like the former Highland Park cafeteria, now the Casa Linda  
Cafeteria...lol
Bob
Dennis Parham wrote:
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16) From: Les
Long thread, and Gin said I had to answer!  Personally I like a 2 x 4
Americano.  A 2 oz shot with 4 oz of water.  It to me makes the most
complex smooth cup of standard strength coffee.  Mike McKoffee likes a
5 x 5 Americano.  He likes the  Lungo (5 oz) shot  mixed with 5 oz of
water.  I even have a very special 6 oz cup for the 2 x 4 Americanos. 
In my opinion, you need pressure (espresso machine) extraction to get
the most out of the bean.
Les
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:20:11 -0500, Bob Baker  wrote:
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17) From: Dennis Parham
yup! that was a fine place! :D there is one very good one like the one 
in HP that is in Plano if you goto that one.... on Parker or Park and 
the Toll Road... some where around there!
Dennis Parham
On Oct 24, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Bob Baker wrote:
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18) From: Ben Treichel
gin wrote:
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I personally make mine 2 X 6. Everybody knows that a 2 x 6 is stronger 
than a 2 x 4 ;-)
FYI, is so happens that 8 oz works well in a standard mug.

19) From: Les
Ben,
That is why I grabbed this really cool 6 oz mug at a craft fair.  I
only wish I could have gotten a set of them.
Les
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:28:58 -0400, Ben Treichel  wrote:
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20) From: miKe mcKoffee

21) From: Tom Ulmer
indeed..  LouAnn's are for grandma...

22) From: Tom Ulmer
damn... i guess that would be my wife

23) From: DJ Garcia
Hey, cut the guy some slack - it takes a trained finger to get that
button pushed just right ...

24) From: Wandering John
Yup!  A bunch of those go over the counter every Sunday.   I'm a
vegetarian and wind up with a tray full of salad and veggies.  They
always inform me that I can have a vegetable plate - and then they
count and understand; Yesterday they told me I could have had two
veggie plates :O)    I think the main reason we go there is that
everyone can get what they want and it cuts down on the bickering over
where we're going to eat.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:28:36 -0500, Bob Baker  wrote:
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