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Topic: Travelling Grinders (28 msgs / 575 lines)
1) From: gin
you guys and your handles...
cut the damn thing off and adapt a longer, removable, handle. get to use your fave zass and life is good.

2) From: gin
maybe I should make a tradition of "my special brownie"...
funny thing is I don't smoke anything; I simply believe we have a fractured medical system and people are in need. one of those in need is my own brother who gets fed throizine by the VA...
this is not ok with me and I  say the government is wrong in simply disposing of people with FDA approved drugs.
I fight for my right to protest. I am not another shrub sheep.

3) From: Jason Brooks
Greetings one and all,
    I'm pondering my office/travel setup.  I'm going to get a Columbia and
a Nissan LeakProof Bottle for decanting, once they're in.  I've leaned
towards a  Zass Turkish for a while for portability.  I've also read
statements that it won't do coarse enough for press.  Given that and
the cost, what Zasses do folks out there use for portability?  I have
a 169D that I love, but it's dimensions aren't that great for travel.

4) From: Ming Wang
What about the zass knee grinders? They're compact and have the same burrs 
as any other zass.

5) From: John Blumel
On Jan 3, 2005, at 1:07pm, Ming Wang wrote:
Yes, the 156 does work OK as a travel grinder. You can always stuff 
some socks around the handle.
John Blumel

6) From: Jason Brooks
That's another consideration.  Thanks.

7) From: Brett Mason
My Zass 499 is an earlier version of the 156 Knee Mill - Love it.  It
grinds plenty coarse for Press Pots - and is my traveller...  Of
course it also grinds a perfect powder for espresso too... I am a huge
Zass proponent - you won't go wrong...
And as always, see Tom to getcherself one...
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:13:54 -0500, John Blumel  wrote:
Brett Mason
   _(( )_  Please don't spill the coffee!

8) From: Jason Brooks
    With your 499, how is the handle length in relation to the size of the
box?  I think I'll be able to easily handle an overage, but am
curious.  The attractiveness of the Turkish is the disassembly of the
    While I'm at it, is the Turkish grinding mechanism different from the
other mills by Zass?  Looking at Tom's excellent pics makes me think
it's similar to what PecanJim just mentioned regarding his Polish mill
- not so conical as the standard Zass grinder.

9) From: Brett Mason
I don't know on the turkish
My 499's handle is slighltly longer than the box - the turning radius
for grinding is very comfortable - were it shorter, perhaps would take
much more effort and be harder to manage...
Mine has travelled inside my suitcase (in a plastic ziplock), inside
my carry-on tote, and in a regular paper bag as a carry-on.  I have
travelled all over with this setup, and have had no problems...
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:10:56 -0500 (EST), Jason Brooks  wrote:
Brett Mason
   _(( )_  Please don't spill the coffee!

10) From: John Blumel
On Jan 3, 2005, at 3:10pm, Jason Brooks wrote:
On the 156, the handle sticks out about 2" past the end of the box and 
about 2 3/4" above it. The nob on the bin also sticks out about 3/4"
John Blumel

11) From: Brett Mason
Sounds about right for my 499 too...
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:25:15 -0500, John Blumel  wrote:
Brett Mason
   _(( )_  Please don't spill the coffee!

12) From: Brett Mason
Cmon Gin, share those brownies!  You make me laugh!
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:55:41 -0800 (GMT-08:00), gin
Brett Mason
   _(( )_  Please don't spill the coffee!

13) From: petzul
Hi everyone,
I recently traveled to Boston with a whirly blade in my back pack carry on.
Extremely poor choice. Would really rather take my Mazzer, but it is a 
bit bulky in the backpack with the hotpot and beans.
Others may like to know this also:
 is it easy, or possible, to remove the handle of the Zass for travel?
That would make it much easier in the carry on, and less likely to be 
damaged I would think.
I would never trust my coffee stuff to be checked though. It Never gets 
out of my sight.
Thanks for all the help,
John Blumel wrote:

14) From: Jason Brooks
Brett Mason wrote:
I second that.  When contemplating a dedicated case for my traveling 
setup, I'm striving for as small as possible.  I do little to no flying, 
so I'd like a handled box just for the car/truck.
Thanks for all the help folks!  You all rock, but I hope you find none 
in your favorite dry processed beans!
Jason Brooks
Hanging Out in the Heart of VA,
With HW Gourmet, Poppery, and soon arriving BBQ roasters,
With Bodum Chambord, Cory DRU/DRL/DEO, Magister Home, and a Krups Gusto,
Drinking good coffee with anyone that arrives!

15) From: Steven Van Dyke
My travel / work grinder is one of those hand-crank cheapies you can find on
the web.  Cabela's *used* to carry them but no longer does.  They're no
where near as good as the travel grinders Tom gets, but for $20 you can
afford to have a few around.  I wouldn't want to use it for something where
the grind is critical, but when you're looking at slightly unevenly ground
home roast vs. hotel or work coffee....
Steve :->

16) From: Ming Wang
I got a hand mill in Chinatown for $12 before. Had a lovely pewter/gunmetal 
hopper, but the burrs were poor as hell!

17) From: David M. Lewis
At 1:05 PM -0500 1/3/05, Jason Brooks wrote:
For travel, I use a Zass Turkish and a 3-tasse press. Works fine, the 
worst part being getting the Zass through the airport X-ray.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary 
depends upon his not understanding it."
	-- Upton Sinclair

18) From: Jason Brooks
Thanks for all the ideas.  So, since the Turkish could go coarse enough,
it'll be a toss up between a knee mill and a Turkish.  Of course, if I go
knee, I've already been thinking of modding the handle to be about 2x as
long as the body's widest dimension and having it fold for travel, a la a
Turkish.  I'll just have to figure out the material of the handle and find
someone who can craft it and insure it will lock in full extension when
turning counter-clockwise.
Again, thanks all!

19) From: miKe mcKoffee
I've had a Zass Turkish for a couple years. It can go coarse enough for 
Press but the coarse grind isn't very even (compared to Rocky or full size 
Zass) AND it takes a LONG time. Much longer than other Zass. Plus, the crank 
handle doesn't fit inside like a traditional Turkish grinder. I don't regret 
buying it and won't get rid of it (looks cool on the shelf) but am replacing 
it for travel.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm

20) From: Philip Keleshian
Here is an interesting looking grinder. =http://www.yuccadune.com/product336.htmlHas anyone tried one of them?

21) From: James Pratt
Yeah, I got one of those some years ago, to allow me to grind my bean in
camp. It doesn't work very well, IMO - the upper part of the burrs does
not do a very good job of pulling beans down into the lower part, when
set to anywhere near ant coffee grind. I'd always end up adjusting it to
a VERY coarse grind, basically just breaking the beans into 8 or so
chunks, then reset the grind to what I wanted and bfeed the broken beans
back through it. Nowadays I use it to grind spices, and use my Zass knee
mill in camp... The good news is that they're pretty inexpensive (at
REI, among other places), and I'd still want to use it for coffee if I
was going backpacking or motorcycle camping, since it's much smaller and
lighter than the Zass. And yes, I know it's not a good thing to run
beans through the mill twice, but otherwise you'll take 10 minutes or so
to grind enough to do a small (3-tasse) press' worth of beans...

22) From: Deward Hastings
beans through the mill twice
Except as a practical matter I see no problem . . . =
grinders are often (usually?) multi-stage, typically crushing the beans =
to a
relatively uniform size before the final grind . . .

23) From: James Pratt
beans to a
I suspect that the reason it's usually not recommended has more to do
with heat buildup than anything else; can anyone give me another
argument against it? The main reason for wanting to do it with this
particular mill is that the "worm" section of it is fairly short, with a
rather narrow gap at the top, narrower than most beans, if set
appropriately for producing a grind suitable for a press. In fact, I
suspect that you'd get more heat buildup (from friction against the
bottom-side of the beans) with the mill set for a "final" grind. Another
downside to this mill is that the smaller size (which is the one I have)
doesn't hold very many beans at all, certainly not enough to make a
liter of coffee at the strength I like; this isn't a problem if you're
only trying to make enough for a single cup, but makes it sort of a PITA
if you're trying to make enough for several people. OTOH, for
backpacking and such (where you're seldom going to be carrying a Thermos
to store it in), it's perfect for one person, since you always drink up
all that you make. I never tried it for this purpose, but I think that
it might be just big enough to make enough for two cups (or one serving
from the smallest moka pot I've ever had). I don't really recall whether
its grind consistency is very good, but suspect not, since I doubt its
burrs are particularly sharp; this was never much of a problem with the
press, though...

24) From: Jason Brooks
With what?  I'm waffling between a knee mill and a Turkish.

25) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
      I would recommend the knee mill over the Turkish.
          Jim Gundlach
On Jan 6, 2005, at 7:22 AM, Jason Brooks wrote:

26) From: owen cox
My experience is with a Zass Turkish as my only manual grinder for 5
yrs or so. Only since treating myself to a Mini a few weeks ago have I
realized how uneven the Turkish is at course settings. Will make a
presspot almost impossible to "plunge" whereas with the Mazzer, am
grinding fine, steeping for 4 minutes and the plunge is as smooth as
the coffee.
owen cox
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:29:53 -0600, Pecan Jim Gundlach

27) From: Brett Mason
The Zass knee mill will give you a very very consistent grind, every time.
I pulled some espresso shots last night, and had the burrs touching. 
The powdered espresso was marvellous to look at, and the texture was
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:02:57 -0500, owen cox  wrote:
Brett Mason
   _(( )_  Please don't spill the coffee!

28) From: petzul
I remember seeing something like that in REI when I was into back 
packing /camping. Never could figure that anyone would want to pack in 
coffee making stuff. They even had espresso makers. Never tried one, but 
now I can understand completely.
Philip Keleshian wrote:

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