you guys and your handles... cut the damn thing off and adapt a longer, removable, handle. get to use your fave zass and life is good. ginny
maybe I should make a tradition of "my special brownie"... funny thing is I don't smoke anything; I simply believe we have a fractured medical system and people are in need. one of those in need is my own brother who gets fed throizine by the VA... this is not ok with me and I say the government is wrong in simply disposing of people with FDA approved drugs. I fight for my right to protest. I am not another shrub sheep. ginny
Greetings one and all, I'm pondering my office/travel setup. I'm going to get a Columbia and a Nissan LeakProof Bottle for decanting, once they're in. I've leaned towards a Zass Turkish for a while for portability. I've also read statements that it won't do coarse enough for press. Given that and the cost, what Zasses do folks out there use for portability? I have a 169D that I love, but it's dimensions aren't that great for travel. Thanks, Jason
What about the zass knee grinders? They're compact and have the same burrs as any other zass.
On Jan 3, 2005, at 1:07pm, Ming Wang wrote: <Snip> Yes, the 156 does work OK as a travel grinder. You can always stuff some socks around the handle. John Blumel
That's another consideration. Thanks. Jason <Snip>
My Zass 499 is an earlier version of the 156 Knee Mill - Love it. It grinds plenty coarse for Press Pots - and is my traveller... Of course it also grinds a perfect powder for espresso too... I am a huge Zass proponent - you won't go wrong... And as always, see Tom to getcherself one... Regards, Brett On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:13:54 -0500, John Blumel wrote: <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast __]_ _(( )_ Please don't spill the coffee!
Brett, With your 499, how is the handle length in relation to the size of the box? I think I'll be able to easily handle an overage, but am curious. The attractiveness of the Turkish is the disassembly of the handle. While I'm at it, is the Turkish grinding mechanism different from the other mills by Zass? Looking at Tom's excellent pics makes me think it's similar to what PecanJim just mentioned regarding his Polish mill - not so conical as the standard Zass grinder. Jason <Snip>
I don't know on the turkish My 499's handle is slighltly longer than the box - the turning radius for grinding is very comfortable - were it shorter, perhaps would take much more effort and be harder to manage... Mine has travelled inside my suitcase (in a plastic ziplock), inside my carry-on tote, and in a regular paper bag as a carry-on. I have travelled all over with this setup, and have had no problems... On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:10:56 -0500 (EST), Jason Brooks wrote: <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast __]_ _(( )_ Please don't spill the coffee!
On Jan 3, 2005, at 3:10pm, Jason Brooks wrote: <Snip> On the 156, the handle sticks out about 2" past the end of the box and about 2 3/4" above it. The nob on the bin also sticks out about 3/4" John Blumel
Sounds about right for my 499 too... On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:25:15 -0500, John Blumel wrote: <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast __]_ _(( )_ Please don't spill the coffee!
Cmon Gin, share those brownies! You make me laugh! On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:55:41 -0800 (GMT-08:00), gin wrote: <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast __]_ _(( )_ Please don't spill the coffee!
Hi everyone, I recently traveled to Boston with a whirly blade in my back pack carry on. Extremely poor choice. Would really rather take my Mazzer, but it is a bit bulky in the backpack with the hotpot and beans. Others may like to know this also: is it easy, or possible, to remove the handle of the Zass for travel? That would make it much easier in the carry on, and less likely to be damaged I would think. I would never trust my coffee stuff to be checked though. It Never gets out of my sight. Thanks for all the help, Respectfully, PeterZ John Blumel wrote: <Snip>
Brett Mason wrote: <Snip> I second that. When contemplating a dedicated case for my traveling setup, I'm striving for as small as possible. I do little to no flying, so I'd like a handled box just for the car/truck. Thanks for all the help folks! You all rock, but I hope you find none in your favorite dry processed beans! Jason -- Jason Brooks jbrookshttp://members.kinex.net/~jbrooks/blog/blog.html------------------------------- Hanging Out in the Heart of VA, With HW Gourmet, Poppery, and soon arriving BBQ roasters, With Bodum Chambord, Cory DRU/DRL/DEO, Magister Home, and a Krups Gusto, Drinking good coffee with anyone that arrives!
John, My travel / work grinder is one of those hand-crank cheapies you can find on the web. Cabela's *used* to carry them but no longer does. They're no where near as good as the travel grinders Tom gets, but for $20 you can afford to have a few around. I wouldn't want to use it for something where the grind is critical, but when you're looking at slightly unevenly ground home roast vs. hotel or work coffee.... Enjoy! Steve :->
I got a hand mill in Chinatown for $12 before. Had a lovely pewter/gunmetal hopper, but the burrs were poor as hell!
At 1:05 PM -0500 1/3/05, Jason Brooks wrote: <Snip> For travel, I use a Zass Turkish and a 3-tasse press. Works fine, the worst part being getting the Zass through the airport X-ray. Best, David -- "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair
<Snip> Thanks for all the ideas. So, since the Turkish could go coarse enough, it'll be a toss up between a knee mill and a Turkish. Of course, if I go knee, I've already been thinking of modding the handle to be about 2x as long as the body's widest dimension and having it fold for travel, a la a Turkish. I'll just have to figure out the material of the handle and find someone who can craft it and insure it will lock in full extension when turning counter-clockwise. Again, thanks all! Jason
I've had a Zass Turkish for a couple years. It can go coarse enough for Press but the coarse grind isn't very even (compared to Rocky or full size Zass) AND it takes a LONG time. Much longer than other Zass. Plus, the crank handle doesn't fit inside like a traditional Turkish grinder. I don't regret buying it and won't get rid of it (looks cool on the shelf) but am replacing it for travel. Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm
Here is an interesting looking grinder. =http://www.yuccadune.com/product336.htmlHas anyone tried one of them? Phil
<Snip>http://www.yuccadune.com/product336.html<Snip> Yeah, I got one of those some years ago, to allow me to grind my bean in camp. It doesn't work very well, IMO - the upper part of the burrs does not do a very good job of pulling beans down into the lower part, when set to anywhere near ant coffee grind. I'd always end up adjusting it to a VERY coarse grind, basically just breaking the beans into 8 or so chunks, then reset the grind to what I wanted and bfeed the broken beans back through it. Nowadays I use it to grind spices, and use my Zass knee mill in camp... The good news is that they're pretty inexpensive (at REI, among other places), and I'd still want to use it for coffee if I was going backpacking or motorcycle camping, since it's much smaller and lighter than the Zass. And yes, I know it's not a good thing to run beans through the mill twice, but otherwise you'll take 10 minutes or so to grind enough to do a small (3-tasse) press' worth of beans... James
James: <Snip> beans through the mill twice Except as a practical matter I see no problem . . . = commercial/industrial grinders are often (usually?) multi-stage, typically crushing the beans = to a relatively uniform size before the final grind . . . Deward
<Snip> commercial/industrial <Snip> beans to a <Snip> I suspect that the reason it's usually not recommended has more to do with heat buildup than anything else; can anyone give me another argument against it? The main reason for wanting to do it with this particular mill is that the "worm" section of it is fairly short, with a rather narrow gap at the top, narrower than most beans, if set appropriately for producing a grind suitable for a press. In fact, I suspect that you'd get more heat buildup (from friction against the bottom-side of the beans) with the mill set for a "final" grind. Another downside to this mill is that the smaller size (which is the one I have) doesn't hold very many beans at all, certainly not enough to make a liter of coffee at the strength I like; this isn't a problem if you're only trying to make enough for a single cup, but makes it sort of a PITA if you're trying to make enough for several people. OTOH, for backpacking and such (where you're seldom going to be carrying a Thermos to store it in), it's perfect for one person, since you always drink up all that you make. I never tried it for this purpose, but I think that it might be just big enough to make enough for two cups (or one serving from the smallest moka pot I've ever had). I don't really recall whether its grind consistency is very good, but suspect not, since I doubt its burrs are particularly sharp; this was never much of a problem with the press, though... James
With what? I'm waffling between a knee mill and a Turkish. Jason <Snip>
Jason, I would recommend the knee mill over the Turkish. Jim Gundlach On Jan 6, 2005, at 7:22 AM, Jason Brooks wrote: <Snip>
My experience is with a Zass Turkish as my only manual grinder for 5 yrs or so. Only since treating myself to a Mini a few weeks ago have I realized how uneven the Turkish is at course settings. Will make a presspot almost impossible to "plunge" whereas with the Mazzer, am grinding fine, steeping for 4 minutes and the plunge is as smooth as the coffee. owen cox On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:29:53 -0600, Pecan Jim Gundlach wrote: <Snip>
The Zass knee mill will give you a very very consistent grind, every time. I pulled some espresso shots last night, and had the burrs touching. The powdered espresso was marvellous to look at, and the texture was incredible.... On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:02:57 -0500, owen cox wrote: <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast __]_ _(( )_ Please don't spill the coffee!
I remember seeing something like that in REI when I was into back packing /camping. Never could figure that anyone would want to pack in coffee making stuff. They even had espresso makers. Never tried one, but now I can understand completely. PeterZ Philip Keleshian wrote: <Snip>