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Topic: New Years Reminder (41 msgs / 976 lines)
1) From: gin
Les:
Well said. I am also proud to be around here...
a bunch of great, if offbeat, folks. Cool
ginny

2) From: gin
Jared:
Dear One, you are a CSA.
You don't need to beg.
ginny

3) From: gin
correct Brett...
ginny

4) From: Les
As a charter member of the CSA club (Coffee Snobs Association),  I
would like to share the stark reality that we are snobs!  I was
talking about coffee with my brother, and he said they had special
Kona for Christmas.  I asked if he was sure it was Kona.  He said,
"Yes"  I bought it when I was in Hawaii.  I then asked if he had been
to Kona.  No, he bought it from a roaster in Maui.  He kept telling me
how good it was because the bought it from the roaster.  He was in
Hawaii two years ago!  He is getting some fresh roasted Kona this week
from me.  Will he be able to tell the difference?  Who knows!  Yes we
are coffee snobs!  I am proud to be a part of this group that
continues to spur me on!
Les

5) From: Gene Smith
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I hope he at least stored it properly, Les.  In the paint cabinet in the 
garage?
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

6) From: Ed Needham
Ugggggg....Two year old beans that probably were not that great to start 
with.  Tourist coffee.

7) From: Barbara Greenspon
Absolutely.  We snobs help the whole world (!   :-D ) by keeping 
standards up. 
Barbara
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8) From: Ben Treichel
Ah yes.
I have been working on my chiropractor for about 1 & 1/2 years now and 
he and his wife got a sm5k for Christmas. He now asks how I restrict 
myself to 3 doubles a day. But the best part is when he 'accused' me of 
ruining Dunkan Donuts coffee for him, He lamented that he would probably 
never be able to enjoy another cup of theirs. I nearly fell off the 
adjustment table laughing.
Les wrote:
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Ben Treichel
Program Manager
S.E Michigan
SwRI
248-232-7365 (o)
248-935-6845 (m)

9) From: Jared Andersson
I would like to make a formal request to be included in the CSA.  Jared
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:04:03 -0800 (GMT-08:00), gin
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10) From: Barry Luterman
You realize if you join you will never enjoy restaurant coffee again.You can
only have coffee at your own or one of our homes.

11) From: Gene Smith
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Isn't the CSA one of those 'if you have to ask...' sorta organizations, 
Jared?  I would think requesting membership would merit an automatic 
disqualification.  I think the 'secret handshake' is to just start 
confidently acting like you're a member.
Either that, or do something so egregiously...caffeinated...that you are 
inducted by general acclamation.
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

12) From: Terry Stockdale
Jared,
Has anyone called you a "Coffee Snob," without prompting or any other hint 
that you wished to be called such?
When others recognize that you have become one, you have moved well in the 
direction of your goal.   Now, you have the steeper climb to becoming a 
true Coffee Snob in your own eyes.  Work hard at it.  Drink coffee.  Drink 
espresso.  Drink ristrettos.  Roast your own coffee.  Roast more than you 
can drink.  Give some away and have your friends be amazed at the fresh 
roasted coffee.  But, never, ever, give away the "good stuff."
Terry
At 02:16 PM 1/7/2005, Jared wrote:
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Terry Stockdale -- Baton Rouge, LA
   http://www.terrystockdale.com

13) From: Brett Mason
One indicator of a non-CSA member might be the electronic request to
be deleted from this mailing list?
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:08:13 -0800 (GMT-08:00), gin
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Regards,
Brett Mason
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14) From: Les
Well said Ginny,
Jared, now that you have spent well into 4 figures, you are definitely
in!  A true home test would be the "Yeh RIGHT!" response by your wife
when you tell her how much money you have saved by becoming a
homeroaster.
Les
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:08:13 -0800 (GMT-08:00), gin
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15) From: DEchelbarg
The coffee snob is an easy designation to get.  Simply go to church with your 
on thermose.  When people ask what you have in there, you tell them: Panama 
Boquete Lerida Estate.  If they ask why you bring your own, simply say:  "One 
can only have some much caffine in a day -- why waste it?"  That should do it.  
It has worked for me.
Dave E

16) From: Justin Marquez
To quote my own lovely spouse on the stash under the kitchen counter: 
"You do realize that we have spent more money on coffee in the past
three months than in the past three years?  Oh well... at least it's
cheaper than golf."  (Heheh - she hasn't seen the prices for REAL
coffee equipment yet.)
And I remind her that it is about QUALITY of the coffee we drink
(which she loves) NOT about the "savings".
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)http://www.justinandlinda.comOn Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:54:16 -0800, Les  wrote:
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17) From: Casey Jones
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this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
One Sunday my wife and I finished our coffee before we got to church.  I was
surprised (well, not really) at how many people asked where our mugs were.
-Casey
From: 
Reply-To: "homeroast"
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:04:25 EST
To: "homeroast" 
Subject: Re: +New Years Reminder
The coffee snob is an easy designation to get.  Simply go to church with
your on thermose.  When people ask what you have in there, you tell them:
Panama Boquete Lerida Estate.  If they ask why you bring your own, simply
say:  "One can only have some much caffine in a day -- why waste it?"  That
should do it.  It has worked for me.
 
Dave E

18) From: Gene Smith
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That's a tee shirt and a bumper sticker for sure!
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

19) From: Jared Andersson
I guess I have acquired a few CSA points I could use to buy my way in.
 They include the fact that I would rather drink no coffee than drink
most all other coffee.  I assume I also get CSA points from the fact
that my (wonderful) mother in law apologizes for her coffee to me each
time I am over and assumes I am criticizing her every coffee move when
I have said nothing to that effect.  One last question though.  Does
my CSA membership actually make me a better person as I feel I now am?
 Jared
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:08:13 -0800 (GMT-08:00), gin
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20) From: Les
I don't know, but it puts you in good company!
Les
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:03:31 -0600, Jared Andersson
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21) From: Jared Andersson
I can't argue with that Les.  You coffee snobs are some of the nicest
people I have encountered.  Jared
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 20:57:44 -0800, Les  wrote:
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22) From: Mike Fronzaglia
That seals it!!  I'm in!  I ALWAYS get the apologies before being served.  I
also get, "I know it's not as good as YOUR homeroasted gourmet coffee..."
:-)  Where's my free T-shirt and bumper sticker? 
Mike

23) From: Tim TenClay
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:03:31 -0600, Jared Andersson
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I think perhaps the CSA application process should be a little more
carefully explored :-)  I would like to apply.....
Grace and Peace,
  `tim
-- 
Rev. Tim TenClay
Dunningville Reformed Church (www.dunningville.org)
Knots & More Tatting Supplies (www.knotsandmore.com) NATA #253

24) From: Barbara Greenspon
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Without a doubt.
We must not forget the 12 steps!http://home.comcast.net/~mdmint/coffee/csa12steps.htmCheck it out and then you'll know.
Barbara
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25) From: AlChemist John
Am I one of the only ones that actually has spent less on coffee?  I drink 
the same amount of coffee as I did pre-homeroasting, the green coffee costs 
half as much, all of my espresso equipment has been traditions or tradition 
replacements (insurance paid fire replacement) and I roast in a roaster I 
made my self for very little money.
Sometime around 14:24 1/7/2005, Justin Marquez typed:
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John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.dreamsandbones.net/blog/http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

26) From: Brett Mason
My habit costs me less too.  
This Passion is incredibly generous - lowers costs, enhances personal
enjoyment, provides exploration and variation, easily presented in
public, and is legal as well...
Brett
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:51:00 -0800, AlChemist John  wrote:
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Regards,
Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
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27) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
Actually, I'm wondering if the cost isn't slightly higher.  Not
including equipment, if I look at increased electric bills and consider
my time based on an hourly pay rate, it may actually be slightly more
expensive.  Since starting homeroasting in July, my electric bills went
up somewhat with the poppers.  With the SC/TO setup, the electric bill
has increased about 1/3 compared to a year ago, after factoring price
differences between this year and last year.  It would seem, though,
that the larger the roast that can be done at one time, the lower the
overall cost.  
Still, you'll have to pry my roaster from my cold, decaffed hands before
I give it up!  The fun of trying new beans, trying different brew
methods, getting some wild flavors from coffee (raspberry, carmel,
melon, etc.) that I never knew were there, and enjoying the zen of
homeroasting all outweigh the potential cost difference.  It ain't about
the money honey!  :)
Brent
Roasting in an SC/TO
For drip, moka, and presspot brew

28) From: Rick.Farris
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Be careful about how much money you make, then, or else you might find =
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you can't afford to take a crap!
-- Rick
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29) From: Brett Mason
I was thinking I would be rich if I also got paid for cooking dinner
each night for the last 24 years...
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Regards,
Brett Mason
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30) From: Tom Ulmer
Does this make Sweet Maria's responsible for filing your 1099?
I'm thinking I can't afford to pay attention...
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Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:01 PM
Be careful about how much money you make, then, or else you might find =
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you can't afford to take a crap! 
-- Rick 
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Haze in San Diego, CA 
63F (17C)  -  88% RH 
Wind From the South Southeast at 6 mph (10:48:22) 
ICBM: N 32 43' 05" W 117 10' 02" 
Now Playing: Little Feat -  On Your Way Down - Dixie Chicken - 1973 
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31) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
I sure hope so.  Between being working poor and paying my huge
electrical bill, I could use the break!  :)
Brent
Roasting in an SC/TO
For drip, moka, and presspot brew
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32) From: Peter Barnes
I suppose it depends on what one's coffee habit looked like before 
homeroasting.  While I have definitely spent significant money (for me) 
on coffee equipment since joining this list, that was a journey I would 
have made on my own anyways.  Since I only spent $7 on my cast-iron wok, 
the only real expense I have is the coffee, and I find that I save about 
$10 a week simply on beans (and that doesn't include the ten or so trips 
to the coffee shop that I used to make before I discovered what good 
coffee actually was).  Even if you factored in the equipment, I probably 
save several hundred dollars a year on coffee expenses, at a minimum.  
And it's fun! 
cheers
peter
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33) From: Brett Mason
Do we then owe Sweet Maria's some type of Sponsorship fee?
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:37:37 -0500, Peter Barnes  wrote:
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Regards,
Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
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34) From: Sue
I'll admit it. I've spent waaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more. I drank canned
coffee prior to homeroasting! My first purchase was some Costa  Rican
beans while I was in Costa Rica and a pineapple shaped wooden cloth
filter holder. It was 850 colones($2.25 cents)! I should have left it
at that, but no, I discovered SM, this list, and homeroasting!  I
would never go back, but I sure am spending more. I've bought a french
press, two vac pots, a chemex, a thermos, a drip coffee maker, a Fresh
Roast, a popcorn popper, a stir crazy, a turbo oven, a dog bowl, a
heat gun (oops, no, I swiped that from my husband who swiped it from
my dad), numerous types of bags, a commercial coffee grinder, several
hundred pounds of greens, a scale, posters, books, and the list goes
on and on!  And I don't even have an espresso machine (yet)! The list
of wants gets bigger all the time also! I wouldn't trade it for
anything!
Off to roast some Mexican Pluma Hidalgo - can't seem to get enough of that!
Sue
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35) From: Angelo
or have sex......now, that would be a bummer..
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36) From: Sue
Well, I tried to stay out of this but I guess I have to say - depends
on your timing! I would hate to put a time limit on that!!
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37) From: Brett Mason
We were buying perhaps $25-30 a month of storebought roasted beans -
Mostly at Trader Joe's or Costco, plus the additional $10 a month on
coffees when enar a Starbucks...  We are probably ahead on raw
dollars.
But we are Thousands ahead on enjoyment, and the dialogues are entertaining=
 too!
Brett
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Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
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38) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
Members of the list have time to have sex?!?!?
Hmm.  Maybe I am putting too much time into homeroasting . . . .
Brent
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39) From: Les
The following is a quote from my brother who got his homeroasted Kona yesterday.
Actually, I pasted his response.
Dear Les
We Received your Coffee Today it's Really, really, really good did I 
mention
It's really Good
CSA strikes again!
Les
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40) From: HeatGunRoast heatgunroast
Snob defined:  "one who tends to rebuff, avoid, or ignore those
regarded as inferior b : one who has an offensive air of superiority
in matters of knowledge or taste "
Funny, I don't see as much snobbery on this list as some see.  It's
there, but rare.  Thisself-ascribed label seems to come from our fear
that others might see us as snobs.  IMO, they don't.  And when it
seems to us that they do, it's as likely to be out of their own
insecurity or out of a concern for offending us rather than being
offended by us.
Yes, people are nervous about serving me a cup of coffee, but
snobishness does not seem to be a factor as much as their desire to
please and their fear that they won't.  I wish it weren't so. I have a
gorgeous garden, but it would never occur to me or my friends to see
me as a "garden snob."  Or a literature snob because I read many
books.  Nor do I see my friends as wine or jazz or soccer snobs
because of these passions.
Now, I will admit to being a grandpa snob.  But that's because I have
empirical evidence and unabashed conviction that my grandchildren are
cuter than yours.  :o)
Martin
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 06:46:29 -0800, Les  wrote:
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41) From: Brett Mason
Regarding people - we aren't snobs (except if they ask to be unsubscribed)
Regarding coffee, We actively rebuff, avoid, and ignore those
coffees which we regarded as inferior - in fact, we have an offensive
air of superiority in matters of taste and even roast.  (sometimes we
venture into storage, grind, growth and off-topics too).
CSA's forever,
Brett
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:08:26 -0800, HeatGunRoast heatgunroast
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Regards,
Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
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