Okay, so I just got off the boat, but I needed to report this. Today we used less coffee for our 10 Cup melita; 7 scoops instead of 8, and more level instead of heaping. The coffee was not as strong (Duhh!), but it did not have as much kick either. Guess if I like strong tasting coffee with less kick I need to roast it more. It was till good though. C said it was better today. Rough life huh? Defining daily coffee in degrees of excellence. Like maybe just plain excellent isn't good enough. Wonderful path though. PeterZ So glad I switched to home roasting coffee, here in LHC.