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1) From: gin
Am I the only one who has roasted, dumped the greens back in their slots/boxes, and forgotten
what they have to enjoy?

2) From: gin
cute Bob...

3) From: gin
we are out there, I am not alone!

4) From: gin
and you can just run out and do it again, we figured that out by age 4 or 5.
the arrow is you Angelo.

5) From: gin
How kind of you to respond. I have tried the baggie thingie and get them mixed up.
Maybe I need to just roast and pay attention.
Thanks for the help and I will try it agian.

6) From: Bob Baker
Yep, Gin, too many diet cokes...
Nope, I roasted like 3 batches and had them all in separate bowls.
Was able to figure it out in the cup, but not till then...lol
gin wrote:

7) From: Jared Andersson
I find myself forgetting or not attending to what I roasted more and
more often.  This is happening with an almost purposeful apathy to
attending to what I roasted.  By not focusing on what it should taste
like compared to last year, last week, or compared to other beans etc
I can taste this very   batch for what it actually is right now
without comparison or disappointment that it didn't turn out the way
it was supposed to taste.  A get away from conceptual thought to
experience reality kind of thing I guess.  I know the coffee was of
good quality to start with and I roasted it to the best of my
abilities.  I am sure I will go back to neurotically recording data
from my roasts to help me learn in the future but not for now. Jared
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:56:51 -0800 (GMT-08:00), gin

8) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
Like Jared, I've gotten away from the compulsive roasting/tracking part
of the experience.  Especially with blending beans.  (BTW, blending
beans to me means dumping half of this one into half of that one, giving
it a good shake, and pouring it in the grinder.)  I have a few standbys
that I know well and know their roast profiles and know how they blend.
(Of course, some of this will change now that I've figured out part of
the mystery of extraction!)
When a new bean is tried, I do keep track and try to find its sweet
spot.  So Gin, just roast, blend, brew, enjoy the whole process, enjoy a
cup, share with friends.  (Advice from the Slow Learners group.)
Roasting in an SC/TO
For drip, moka, and presspot brew

9) From: Brett Mason
Coffee is an art!
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:57:11 -0800 (GMT-08:00), gin
Brett Mason
   _(( )_  Please don't spill the coffee!

10) From: Angelo
Sort of like the old Zen proverb: "Shoot your arrow into the air, and where 
it lands, call that your target"....Or not

11) From: owen cox
I have a wonderful benchmark, a spouse who drank nothing but New York
corner grocery 'regular' coffee in a paper cup for years. Now when I
ask: "how do you like this one?" the answer is invariably "it's
great"... and I go happily on to my next adventure in roasting.
Cheers, owen
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:02:50 -0500, Angelo  wrote:

12) From: AlChemist John
Nope.  I try to keep it in my head, but two days ago I had the best cup I 
have had in months...and I have no clue what it was.
Sometime around 13:56 2/1/2005, gin typed:
John Nanci 
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.dreamsandbones.net/blog/http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

13) From: Ed Needham
That's like her asking "Honey, do I look fat in this dress?"  Your answer 
better be, "Baby, you would look good dressed in a burlap bag."
When 'she' tells you how incredible your coffee is, 'without prompting', you 
know you've hit the mark.
(Oh, by the way... If you're a real smart*ss, the answer to the first 
question is, "Baby, it's not the dress that makes you look fat, it's them 
jelly donuts."
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"
ed at homeroaster dot com
(include [FRIEND] somewhere in the subject line of any email correspondence)

14) From: Gary Townsend
I'm getting to the point where I have to write everything down,
otherwise, I'll forget about it. Completely. I used to put most of my
roasts in mason jars, write down type, time and date with a perm
marker. 2 weeks ago I either forgot to wash the jar and use green
scratch pad to remove the marker, or I drank the finest 4 month old
coffee I ever had...
Now, I bought a big box of freezer- zip lok bags, and write down what
I'm roasting as I'm roasting. And throw the bags out.However, under
these circumstances, I have not noticed any decrease or degredation of
the flavor of my roasts. Hmmm.
Gary. almost completely clueless this morning...must be the fog...
 AlChemist John  wrote:

15) From: Jared Andersson
"Sort of like the old Zen proverb: "Shoot your arrow into the air, and where
it lands, call that your target"....Or not
Thats it Angelo.  When you shoot the arrow in the air and it lands on
you, you have to admit the experience is much more intense and
personal than aiming for some target 30 meters away.  Jared
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:02:50 -0500, Angelo  wrote:

16) From: Gene Smith
In Zen archery, the target is always *you*.
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

17) From: Angelo
Ultimately, there is no target, there is no arrow and there is no "you". 
Working on that one, :-)
Catholicism was sooo much easier: three Hail Mary's, three Our Father's and 
an Act Of Contrition and you was in...Of course, you had to make sure you 
died immediately after that..

18) From: Sharon Allsup
No, you're not the only one.  We used to forget all the time, until I
got tired of playing the "OK which bag is the stuff *I* like?" game
each morning.
Nowadays, while the beans are roasting, I pull out a baggie (or small
ziplock) and a label and a Sharpie, and record what's in the roaster
(and, if I'm remembering to do so, the roast date as well).  So every
roast ends up in a labeled bag.
The baggies are left opened, and put into an SM's one-way-valve
ziplock bag; that way they degas but don't grunge up the outside bag. 
When we want to serve we just pull out the inner baggie.
If it weren't for the labeling we'd have no idea what they were,
because I tend to roast different varieties every time I pull out the
roaster.   :)

19) From: John Crippen
I'm still new at this, so I do record each roast.   I keep my roasted
coffee in mason jars.  I make a few notes on a small piece of paper (I
take a notepad sheet and fold it into sixths, now I have 12 available
writing surfaces), then use a rubber band to hold that on the jar.  I
wash the jars when they get a bit oily.  I file the papers after I've
filled them up.  Each morning, I'm looking at just the data about
what's in my jars.
At this point in my roasting life, I just record Date, Bean, Roast,
abbreviation of implements used, start time, elapsed time at 1st
crack, elapsed time at 2nd crack, stop time.  Brief observations about
the roast (any oddities, evenesss, oiliness, amount of chaf...).
I've never gone back and  reviewed my notes.  I mainly use them as
reminders during morning coffee prep and as reference points for new
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:48:24 -0800 (GMT-08:00), gin

20) From: Gene Smith
Well, that's the *aiming* part of Catholic Zen Archery...right, Angelo?
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

21) From: Angelo
Gene, I always thought the aiming part was the split bamboo switch....

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