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Topic: New drum roasting motor... (48 msgs / 1067 lines)
1) From: ginny
Neil:
You will love your motor. I never used a smaller one then Ron's and I cannot imagine using 6 rpms.
ginny

2) From: ginny
Neil:
I know, I love my RK motor. I was going to build one but for the work and time Ron's hit my sweet spot.
And it performs perfectly.
ginny

3) From: ginny
Jason:
Life has turtles and hares....
not an issue but if your thermocouple got twisted I would
watch out for your panties as well.
Some like it slow, some like it fast and hot...
ginny

4) From: ginny
hey dude:
I am very proud of my first edition Ayn Rand:
The Virtues of Selfishness
it amounts to not being afraid and not placing moral value on another
Make your own, if feels better...
ginny

5) From: ginny
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sometines slow and sometimes fast and hot...
but I never, never get my panties in a twist.
ginny
----Original Message-----
From: Jared Andersson 
Sent: Feb 15, 2005 12:42 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +New drum roasting motor...
I wonder which one you are Ginny?  Jared
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:38:40 -0800 (GMT-08:00), ginny
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6) From: ginny
I agree no issue, no harm and no foul.
just don't make fun of Ayn Rand.
ginny

7) From: ginny
got you scared by butt. you decided not to take the challange
ginny

8) From: ginny
hey,
I agree.
ginny

9) From: ginny
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brightest *at* is rationalizing whatever behavior they find themselves 
inclined to commit.
Gene Smith
who can rationalize with the best of them, in Houston <<<
it does not have to be a negative guys.
ginny
commiting everything I can in the land of fruits and nuts!

10) From: ginny
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who tries not to growl as he tears at his steak, in Houston <<<
what a visual...
ginny

11) From: ginny
we want to hear it.
ginny

12) From: Neil Atwood
Well, I finally got my high speed motor from RK (yes, all the way to Oz!) and fitted it this morning.
This is a fine quality product, which was a breeze to set up and install on my grill.
The difference in the roasts is amazing, with a much more even roast, and 95% of the chaff agitated out of the drum and burnt on the grill.
Haven't cupped the fruits of the first roast yet, but it will come (currently savouring a delightful, fruity batch of Harar).
I have photo's of the rig, and will post them when I finally get my coffee blog up and running...
Neil Atwood - Sydney, Australia
    
You know when you're addicted to coffee when...
You can jump start your car without cables.

13) From: Les
Neil you have moved to a new level of control over your roasts.  I
have the high speed setup too.  I have found that I can do a lot of
different profiles with the higher speed.  Bigger batches are easier
too, but make sure your cooling system is up to the task!  I softened
my vacuum hose with a 4 pound roast to the point of collapse.
Check out my profiles on Ron's site.
Les
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:40:14 +1100, Neil Atwood
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14) From: Brett Mason
I use a fan to blow through the beans rather than pull the air into
the plastic device - a bit messier, but no melted plastic ever....
Brett
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15) From: Neil Atwood
Be thankful you know no different ginny! 
I only used the little battery motor for a week or two before Ron's motor arrived.
I always *assumed* (a very dangerous thing!) that it was 6rpm. A week ago I was idly watching it roast a batch, and I counted... *2* rpm! A measly 2rpm!
When I hooked up Ron's motor yesterday, I thought the drum would take off!
Neil A.
Sydney, Oz 
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16) From: Jason Molinari
I use a 6rpm motor...not only that, i bought a 57rpm
one and didn't like it! I went back to my 6rpm.
The 57 screwed up my temp. measurements, it twisted
and broke my thermocouple.
I also only roast 1lb at a time though...
jason
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17) From: Jared Andersson
No suprise that an Ayn Rand fan would choose an RK.  Cant buy one that
is good enough, make your own.    Jared
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:30:24 -0800 (PST), Jason Molinari
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18) From: Bob Baker
Ginny,
My beans are blushing...!!!
Finally getting better.....can't wait to "get out"
Bob
ginny  wrote:
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19) From: Jared Andersson
I wonder which one you are Ginny?  Jared
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:38:40 -0800 (GMT-08:00), ginny
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20) From: Jason Molinari
I must have missed something. I did make my own drum,
and i didn't buy the 57rpm from RK. My email wasn't
stating RK's 57rpm motor is bad, just saying it isn't
always necessary.
jason
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21) From: Jason Molinari
who made fun of Ayn Rand?
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22) From: Gene Smith
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Well, I was going to...but Ginny got me so scared I just shrugged it off.
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

23) From: Jared Andersson
Although I am generally a liberal kind of guy. Ayn Rand gave me an
appreciation of the good in industrial, capitalistic, make your own
way kind of thinking.  I really like many of her ideas.  I know you
didn't make your own drum Jason.  I was just pointing out the
consistency between the creation of the RK drum and Atlas Shrugged. 
Your quote got me started.  Jared
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:18:39 -0800 (GMT-08:00), ginny
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24) From: Jason Molinari
Jared, i'm currently reading Atlas shrugged, and i
must say it is eye opening..
As i said, i DID make my own drum, not becuase RK's
are bad, but because 1) i made it before he offered
them, 2) I like to make my own stuff.
jason
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25) From: Jared Andersson
Jason, sorry I miss read that you did make your own roaster.  When my
brother Heath started roasting he refused to let me show him other
roasters before building his own.   All he wanted was to know the
basic requirements of a roaster.  What he came up with was basically a
coffee can sized cement truck shaped heat gun roaster that works
great.  I don't have pics but just imagine a coffee can (I think it is
actually an old kitchen grease can) tilted with the open end up at
about 45% and a crank on the closed end to turn the can.  The can has
a bunch of screws in it for agitation of the beans.  The then just
turns the crank with one hand and points the heat gun in the open end.
 It works great.  Jared
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:46:34 -0800 (PST), Jason Molinari
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26) From: John Blumel
On Feb 16, 2005, at 6:46am, Jason Molinari wrote:
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Well, at the risk of offending Gin, I suggest making frequent reality 
checks along the way. Like most utopian writers, Rand's characters are 
really caricatures and she's more than willing to ignore the realities 
of human nature when they don't suit her purposes. A pleasant fantasy, 
but nothing more.
John Blumel

27) From: Jason Molinari
that sounds like an intersting concept! Motorize it
with a 57rpm motor, add some better vanes, and mount
the heatgun so you don't have to hold it, and it
sounds great!
jason
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28) From: Jason Molinari
of course, but the truth behing the story can't be
discounted, although taken to an extreme, it is
feasable.
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29) From: Jared Andersson
I found it interesting that while reading the Fountainhead and Atlas
Shrugged how many people had strong emotional reactions to the book. 
They seemed to either love it or hate it.  I also found that most of
the haters had not actually read the books but had rather heard about
the book or had seen peers get kind of freaky into the ideology.  One
of the biggest critics I found was a college English instructor who
had not actually read the book.  Books and ideas can be kind of scary
to some people.  Not me.  (but the people reading them can scare me). 
Sorry for the off topic ramble.  Perhaps it is the Nicaragua Matagalpa
Margogype I am drinking.  Jared
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:20:29 -0800 (PST), Jason Molinari
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30) From: John Blumel
On Feb 16, 2005, at 10:20am, Jason Molinari wrote:
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Uh, there is no truth behind the story, it's fiction. As far as 
feasibility goes, her entire utopian vision depends on the idea that 
the "best and the brightest" are naturally some kind of saints who 
would never dream of unfairly exploiting their "inferiors", let alone 
outright thievery. Unfortunately, all the evidence points to the truth 
being closer to the opposite view.
John Blumel

31) From: Brett Mason
Fiction by definition CAN have truth behind the story.  Principles and
concepts which are true can be expressed using people, places, and
events which are not in fact true.
Don't fall off the high horse - you could hit head.  Then who would I spar with?
Regards,
Brett
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:50:33 -0500, John Blumel
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32) From: Jason Molinari
by truth i didn't mean reality, i meant the truth
behind her ideals and thought.
No point discussing it..it is way off topic. I'll try
to remember to turn off my signature line when i post
here to not raise a ruckus.
jason
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33) From: John Blumel
On Feb 16, 2005, at 10:37am, Jared Andersson wrote:
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Well, I have read Atlas Shrugged (couldn't get motivated to read The 
Fountainhead after the disappointment of Atlas) and I can't say I had a 
strong emotional reaction to it at the time. Mostly, I was just 
wondering what all the fuss was about. The ideas are naive fantasies 
and, in my opinion, Rand is not a very good writer. It was only later, 
when I realized how seriously some people take her books, that I began 
to find it disturbing.
John Blumel

34) From: John Blumel
On Feb 16, 2005, at 10:58am, Jason Molinari wrote:
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Well, as counterpoint, I would suggest reading Karl Popper's "The Open 
Society and Its Enemies" volumes 1 & 2 (which are relatively slim as 
'volumes" go). Popper is as thoroughly anti-Marxist as Rand but 
approaches the issue from a different perspective. Volume 1, "The Spell 
of Plato" could just as easily be read as "The Spell of Rand".
John Blumel

35) From: Gene Smith
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But Johhhhhhhhhn...ignoring the realities of human nature is what makes 
American Philosophy great!  Well, a *lot* of American Philosophy.  The rest 
is predicated upon the realities of human nature in a worst-case-scenario 
format.  The rather noble notion of Enlightened Self-Interest becomes - as 
was explained to me in a sales class - "There is a nice, juicy steak 
sitting on a plate between you and Mr. &/or Mrs. Prospect.  Either they're 
going to eat it, or you are."
Gene Smith
philosophizing, in Houston

36) From: Gene Smith
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I think it should be built to look like a scale model of a cement mixer. 
Then it should be mounted on a little trailer and hitched to the back of a 
radio control truck.  Both could be stored in a little detached garage on 
your countertop and when you were ready to roast, the truck could back your 
roaster out of the garage (beep...beep...beep...beep...) into your work 
area.  When done, it could be driven back into its garage.
I guess you could have an automatic garage door opener, too...  No, that 
would just be silly.
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

37) From: Gene Smith
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Unfortunately, what the "best and the brightest" tend to be best & 
brightest *at* is rationalizing whatever behavior they find themselves 
inclined to commit.
Gene Smith
who can rationalize with the best of them, in Houston

38) From: Gene Smith
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My own personal experience in exact detail.
Gene Smith
heading for another cuppa, in Houston

39) From: John Blumel
On Feb 16, 2005, at 11:57am, Gene Smith wrote:
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This should only be a real dilemma in China, where knives at the table 
are traditionally frowned upon.
John Blumel

40) From: Brett Mason
Pictures Gene, we need pictures....
Sounds awesome, Brett!
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:02:49 -0600, Gene Smith  wrote:
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41) From: Brett Mason
Pictures Gene, we need pictures....
Sounds awesome, 
Brett!
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42) From: Jared Andersson
Gene, great idea.  I even have a remote controlled truck that would
work.   Unfortunately my brother invented the darn roaster to start
with and sibling rivalry prevents me from actually acknowledging his
work to the point of using it in my own design.  Jared
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43) From: Gene Smith
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Oh, I think if you seriously go for that sort of 'philosophy' you just grab 
it off the plate, with both hands and rip it apart with your teeth, 
John...or at least imagine that you would.
The reference to Oriental eating habits reminds me of a wonderful vision of 
heaven and hell cast in just those terms.  They exist as a pair of 
paintings.  Hell is depicted as a table where everyone is forced to attempt 
to feed themselves with three-foot-long chopsticks.  Heaven is exactly the 
same scene...but people are using their chopsticks to feed the person 
across the table from them.
Gene Smith
who tries not to growl as he tears at his steak, in Houston

44) From: Brett Mason
You left out the flakes.... Brett
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:14:39 -0800 (GMT-08:00), ginny
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45) From: Gene Smith
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Oh, they're all posted at dubya-dubya-dubya.insideofmyhead.com. 
Unfortunately, I only know of one browser that can find them.
Gene Smith
browsing a fresh capuccino, in Houston

46) From: Gene Smith
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Oh, there's a sound file, too...
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

47) From: Bob
It may be a Howard Dean impersonation
Bob

48) From: Gene Smith
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Actually, it sounds more like Duhbya, trying to make sense.
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston


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