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1) From: DEchelbarg
I know I'm missing something obvious, but I haven't found out how to order 
via flat rate shipping on Sweet Maria's site.  Can you lead me?
Thanks,
Dave E 

2) From: Frank Haist
Use the "Hold for Harvey" selection ($8.50). You have to limit your 
order to 12 lbs max.
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3) From: Barry Luterman
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Under shipping use box marked hold for Harvey

4) From: DEchelbarg
great thank you.  I'll be testing it soon, yet another order arrives tomorrow!
Dave E  

5) From: Jared Andersson
Here is Tom's original email with all the details.  Jared
Okay folks, this whole USPS Flat Rate Box has ruined my life. I spent
much of last week and the weekend too trying to figure out a way we
can offer it. It doesn't work. We simply can't offer what needs to be
a volume-based shipping calculation alongside a weight-based
calculation at this time.
So here is our fix ... a temporary "band-aid" approach.
First, I am only telling the list about this right now. It's an
"insider deal" at this point. If it works I will add an page with the
explaination and  "terms and conditions" listed below. Unfortunately,
if it doesn't work out for us, we are going to have to pull it.
The main way this is going to fail is if 1. customers choose it when
they are not eligible, that is, when they are buying something other
than green coffee, and more than 12 Lbs. and 2. when in generates
excessive emails for Maria and Derek and me, with people asking for
exceptions, additions, special circumstances.
Okay, here's the low-tech fix: Buy up to 12 lbs of green coffee ...
it can be 5 Lbs, it can be 8, it can be 10, whatever, but NEVER more
than 12 Lbs. It cannot be any other product except our cloth logo
bags matching the amounts of coffee purchased.
When you check out, chose the purposefully cryptic shipping option
:"Customer Pick Up - Hold for Harvey ($8.50)" We had to make the
option unattractive to those who don't know what it is, who haven't
read this email.
Why Harvey? Well, here's our USPS guy! Why $8.50? We have to add .80
for our USPS pickup fees and packing supplies.
Oh, duh ... this is only good for the U.S. and will work for Alaska,
Hawaii, PR, and FPO/APO too.
Remember, everything bad about the USPS still applies here- spotty
tracking, no insurance currently offered, occasional lost packages,
2-3 days is NOT a guarantee AT ALL - I get some Priority Mails in 2
days, some in 5 ... I have had ones that took 2 weeks!!! Nomatter
what you think about UPS, it's trackable, always insured up to $100,
and about 99% on time according to their time in transit map. If I
lived a few states away and UPS was a couple bucks more, I would
choose UPS personally!
SO this is out beta run of this, and I really hope it works. In a few
months I hope there will be a software upgrade for our system that
will implement it in a better way. Anyone who understands the rules
can try this out. I really hope this saves some money, and doesn't
create headaches for you all or for us.
Tom
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:41:23 -0800 (PST), DEchelbarg
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6) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
On Feb 15, 2005, at 12:28 PM, Frank Haist wrote:
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and order green beans only.
   Jim Gundlach

7) From: Larry Johnson
SM will ship the cloth bags in the USPS Flat Rate box. The rules are: 12
lbs. maximum; coffee beans and/or cloth bags only. The beans always come in
the sealed plastic bags for protection during shipping, of course, but cloth
bags can be included in the order.
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8) From: Dave Kvindlog
So does that mean you would have to order a max of 11 pounds of coffee plus
the bags, or do the bags weigh practically nothing and you could order 12
pounds of coffe plus the bags?
I had heard there was a 12 pound shipping deal, but couldn't find any info
on it on the website.
Dave
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9) From: Larry Johnson
12 lbs. plus the bags. There's a limit on the number of bags, I think 6.
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10) From: Rich
There is only a SIZE limit on a USPS flat rate box. Thee is on weight limit for domestic use.   But, only 
12 lb of beans will FIT in the box.  That is why 12 pound limit, there is still some room in the box.
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From: Dave Kvindlog
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:09:56 -0500
So does that mean you would have to order a max of 11 pounds of coffee plus the bags, or do the bags 
weigh practically nothing and you could order 12 pounds of coffe plus the bags?
I had heard there was a 12 pound shipping deal, but couldn't find any info on it on the website.
Dave
On 9/29/07, Larry Johnson  wrote: SM will ship the cloth bags in the USPS Flat 
Rate box. The rules are: 12 lbs. maximum; coffee beans and/or cloth bags only. 

11) From: Rich
And that should say:   There is no weight limit...
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From: Rich
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:32:57 -0500
There is only a SIZE limit on a USPS flat rate box. Thee is on weight limit for domestic use. But, only 12 
lb of beans will FIT in the box. That is why 12 pound limit, there is still some room in the box.
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From: Dave Kvindlog
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:09:56 -0500
So does that mean you would have to order a max of 11 pounds of coffee plus the bags, or do the bags 
weigh practically nothing and you could order 12 pounds of coffe plus the bags?
I had heard there was a 12 pound shipping deal, but couldn't find any info on it on the website.
Dave
On 9/29/07, Larry Johnson  wrote: SM will ship the cloth bags in the USPS Flat 
Rate box. The rules are: 12 lbs. maximum; coffee beans and/or cloth bags only. 

12) From: Brian Kamnetz
I last ordered at the end of July. In the "Harvey" (the previous
flat-rate) days I usually ordered an 8# sampler, plus another 4 pounds
that I selected, but the shipping options had changed  at the end of
July and the USPS flat rate option did not come up with the sampler.
In an email Derek said that they planned to fix that, but don't know
if it has been corrected yet.
Brian
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13) From: Rich Adams
70 pounds max.

14) From: Michael Mccandless
The last couple of times I ordered cloth bags w-greens USPS, the bags were
laying separate in the bottom of the box.
When I asked, I was told they no longer put the greens in the cloth bags.
Nevertheless, SM will ship cloth-paper-plastic bags w/flat rate orders.
McSparky
On 9/29/07, Larry Johnson  wrote:
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15) From: Rich
That is the max weight for per pound Priority mail.  There is No specified maximum weight for the flat 
rate box used domestically.
This is from the USPS web site for the Priority Mail rates.  Please note that it says "Any amount of 
material".  As a side note I do not think you can get 70 pounds of lead in the big box so the issue is 
moot.
 1.5 Flat-Rate Boxes and Envelopes
Any amount of material may be mailed in a USPS-produced Priority Mail flat-rate box or flat-rate 
envelope. When sealing a flat-rate box or flat-rate envelope, the container flaps must be able to close 
within the normal folds. Tape may be applied to the flaps and seams to reinforce the container, 
provided the design of the container is not enlarged by opening the sides and the container is not 
reconstructed in any way.
1.5.1 Flat-Rate BoxesRate and Eligibility
Each USPS-produced Priority Mail flat-rate box is charged $8.95, regardless of the actual weight of the 
piece or its destination. Only USPS-produced flat-rate boxes are eligible for the flat-rate box rate.
1.5.2 Flat-Rate EnvelopesRate and Eligibility
Each USPS-produced Priority Mail flat-rate envelope is charged $4.60, regardless of the actual weight 
of the piece or its destination. Only USPS-produced flat-rate envelopes are eligible for the flat-rate 
envelope rate. 
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:06:04 -0500, Rich Adams wrote:
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17) From: Rich
What I quoted was directly from the Domestic Mail Manual=
, that is the USPS official book of rules.  If 
you look up the size of either flat rate box you wil=
l find that it is impossible to fill it with any mai=
lable 
contents and exceed 70 pounds,  But, per their manual =
there is no domestic weight limit on the flat 
rate box.
70 pounds is the max for Your box in the Priority Ma=
il structure though.
You can not mail depleted uranium in a flat rate box, =
or mercury. 
If it comes to a discussion with the Post Office they =
will go with the Manual and not the FAC.
Oh, and I also mail a package or two.
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18) From: Rich Adams


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