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Topic: "Dog Bowl method" (11 msgs / 267 lines)
1) From: Cj. Aberte
At 10:38 AM 3/20/2005, you wrote:
Now this is a method I haven't seen explained. I'm assuming it's a cross 
between the cast iron skillet on the stove method and (?) the heated air 
that some of the fancy roasters use? I know that heat is essential to 
getting a good roast so if you choose a heat gun is there an preference in 
model or wattage, etc. to consider?
I think I could do the heat gun thing! That could get me started even 
faster as it appears that (at least in FL) hot air poppers (with a due 
respect to W-M and Target) are seasonal. While I'm not adverse to ordering 
online I am adverse to buying things that double in price with shipping and 
handling (sometimes more than double). Sooo, knowing that I have several 
very nice big hardware stores as well as the ever present ACE (that seems 
to provide more and more of the things that I want and need), a heat gun 
isn't probably going to be a problem. Good idea!
Cj. Aberte
Melbourne, FL  USA

2) From: Justin Marquez
Heat Gun / Dog Bowl is simplicity itself.  All you need is a hardware
store paint-strippin' kinda heat gun - outputs usually 700-1000 Deg F,
a bowl (like a dog bowl or a stainless steel salad bowl or a wire mesh
strainer) and a wooden spoon.  Dump about 160 Grams (1 cup measure) of
beans into the "bowl" and play the heat gun on them from about 1-1/2
inches away form the beans.  In about 10 Minutes they will be done.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)http://www.justinandlinda.com Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:13:44 -0500, Cj. Aberte

3) From: Peter
One thing I have learned is that it can be too easy to scorch the beans
thinking that (shortness of) time is important because much is said about
long roasting times. Heatgun temps need to be monitored and close to air
popper temps. With 230/240 volts available it is easy to have way too much
There is a 'spot' (more like a medium sized 'canvas' to play with) somewhere
between the too little and too much of the heat / time continuum.
I am thinking it may be a good thing to get a bead type digital thermometer
taped to the wooden spoon handle. With the bead on the up-side air temp
would be registered. With the bead down-side it would likely be able to read
the bean temp (more).
Placing the bead close to but away from the very end would allow air temp
readings by lifting the probe a bit and turning it over would not catch on
the beans yet read their temp.
Would the probe lead need to be in a tube of some sort rather than risking
tape glue contamination?
Any thought on this please.

4) From: miKe mcKoffee
For those unaware of it check out Ed's site.http://www.homeroaster.com/Lots of fun coffee links and stuff including heatgun dogbowl roasting 
primer:http://www.homeroaster.com/heatgun.htmlKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm

5) From: Angelo
You could check out the  thrift shops in your area. You'll get perfectly 
good poppers for anywheres from $2-5. You may have to pay tax, though...

6) From: Gene Smith
Shouldn't there be a page somewhere with all the roasting methods 
represented (at least in some basic form) with an explanatory picture, too? 
I would think that would be a great help to first-time roasters.  And for 
those of us who understand a good picture better than the well known 
'thousand words' it would save a lot of discussion...or at least focus it 
Does such a page exist?
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

7) From: Zara Haimo
When I accidentally left my old Hearthware out in the rain and fried its
electronics, I switched to the dog bowl method.  For the first time I could
clearly hear the cracks and see the roast develop - I get great results and
love this method.  The only negative is that it isn't a "set it and forget
it" method - I have to sit there stirring for the 12 or so minutes it takes
to complete a roast.  I'm about to upgrade to a Hottop, but I'll probably
continue using the dog bowl too for smaller batches or just for the fun of
seeing the beans change.
The things I use are a Wagner heat gun, a stainless dog bowl, a stainless
mesh colander with a long handle that fits snugly in the dog bowl, and a
wooden spoon. I bought all this and a plastic storage box to keep everything
in for less than $35 including sales tax.  For cooling, I use a cast iron
griddle that I already had.  To roast, I put about a cup of beans in the
colander and then put the colander in the dog bowl.  I hold the heat gun
about 2-3 inches from the beans and stir with the spoon.  I vary the heat by
moving the heat gun closer to or away from the beans.  Since I roast
outside, the chaff mostly blows away and smoke isn't a problem.  When the
roast is the way I like it, I take the colander out of the bowl (its handle
doesn't get hot, so I don't need a pot holder).  I then dump the beans out
onto the cast iron griddle that absorbs most of the heat in a couple of
minutes and cools the beans down quickly.  1 cup of green beans produces
almost 2 cups of roasted beans which fits in a 1 pint mason jar that I vac

8) From: John Blumel
On Mar 20, 2005, at 3:48pm, Gene Smith wrote:
I don't know of any site that has detailed descriptions of various 
roast methods but, sometime last summer, Jeff Bertoia mentioned the 
idea of setting up a wiki -- like WikiPedia.com -- for similar reasons. 
It could also be used for all sorts of other information like roast 
profiles, brewing methods, espresso techniques, grinder issues, etc., 
For those not familiar with wikis, the way it works is that basically 
anyone can edit "articles" and upload images to include in them (it can 
be restricted to registered users) and over time, the collaborative 
editing allows you to build up a relatively large knowledgebase.
Tom O. expressed some interest at the time but the idea didn't seem to 
go anywhere. Unless SM's has changed ISPs recently, their server has 
everything that would be needed to host a wiki using the free (GNU GPL 
license) MediaWiki software that WikiPedia runs on -- I don't know 
about space issues. Another option, if Tom doesn't want to host it on 
the SM's server but is interested in sponsoring it, would be to get a 
separate hosting account that SM's could sponsor but not be directly 
responsible for.
I'm currently involved in working with another e-group to set up a 
MediaWiki based wiki focused on that group's area of interest. If Tom 
is still interested in hosting or sponsoring a home roasting wiki, I'd 
be happy to volunteer to help get it set up and recruit some other 
volunteers from the list to act as "moderators".
John Blumel

9) From: Brett Mason
This may or may not be enough of a starting point...http://www.sweetmarias.com/instructions.htmlOn Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:48:40 -0600, Gene Smith  wrote:
Brett Mason

10) From: Matthew Price
I have been moving over to the HG from my Pumper lately because I just
couldn't get the control I wanted through the Chicago winter.  The
Pumper had the power if I used a box to recirculate the air but I just
couldn't get it right - either stalled roasts or the char/sour
melange.  I got a /very/ used looking Master 501 off of ebay for about
35USD total and I am very happy with it so far.  This is the kind that
looks like an over sized hair dryer with the doughnut shaped fan duct
on the back.  It moves twice the airflow as the more compact models.
Be careful when shopping for that heat gun because many of the texts
I've seen mention that 500F is about the max temperature that beans
should be subjected to.  In a drum the input temp can be a little
higher as that is not what the beans inside the drum are getting but a
heat gun can pour that 1000F air right into the bean mass.  For that
reason the 501 and it's imitators are a good choice because it can
deliver 500F air at full velocity and also kick up to 750F with the
vanes closed to get things going.  This might be HG heresy, but with
the 501 you can get by with stirring with the heat gun itself during
1st crack.
Still fighting the winter but with the better tools and coming spring
I'm starting to win.  It doesn't hurt that the wife seems okay with
indoor roasting if not more than once a week.  The drone of the heat
gun puts our 4 month old daughter to sleep on the other side of the
house - which is a definite selling point :)
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:12:34 -0800, Zara Haimo  wrote:

11) From: Bart Frazee
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:13:44 -0500, you wrote:
I think this site will explain it for you.
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