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Topic: No Luwak! (24 msgs / 500 lines)
1) From: Wandering Curmudgeon
Yeah but thanks for thinking of us Tom! I don't know a lot of folks that 
would have even ventured into the thought.
John - loving life without Luwak :O)
Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee wrote:
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2) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
I am sorry, but the whole Luwak deal went south. This was interesting 
because it was from a known farm in Lintong, and was all arabica, and 
the supply chain could be verified so (unlike other sources) I knew 
it was real. The opther main source of luwak is all robusta, and the 
exact origin is unknown, presumably Sumatra. The flavors in that cup 
come from the Robusta more than anything else. With this, I will not 
say the cup was good ...The cup was, honestly, not good. But the 
Luwak is about the rarity, not the cup. There is no "good cupping" 
Luwak. It is defective coffee. This had good body, and a sort of 
liquor quality in the flavor, but overall it's a flat cup, without 
any positive qualities from the + said of the Coffee Tasters Flavor 
Wheel.
Anyway, what happened was that I had the offer for Kopi Luwak at $90 
per Kilo. That is cheap! So I got the sample, and the story behind 
this particular source. All that was good. Then when I contacted them 
it turns out it was now $90 Lb. That's a big difference. Still I 
thought this was interesting and unique (all arabica, traceable 
source). Then I talk this morning and it is $100 per Lb! Okay, that's 
fine. I planned to charge $120 per Lb sold in grams so people could 
get exactly what they want. THEN I found out I have to buy the full 
amount, which is 10 Kilos. Now I was ticked. I am flexible, I am 
forgiving, I will jump through a lot of hoops for good coffee ... but 
THIS IS NOT GOOD COFFEE! I am cupping the CRLM new crop arrival this 
morning, there's a nice coffee. We have a Chiapas coming soon, a nice 
sweet snappy cup. Our first Kenya Auction Lot (Ithima AA) is at the 
doorstep, winey syrupy Kenya. And then there's this crap, literally.
So folks, I need to forget about this and focus on the place coffee 
goes in, not the place it comes out. Sorry ...
Tom
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3) From: Michael Lapeyre
It's alright Tom.  Find me a good Yirgacheffe and all is forgiven.

4) From: miKe mcKoffee
10 keys equals 22 pounds. I guess the question is are there 88 people who 
would commit to buy approx 1/4 pound (100 to 150gr range depending on 
desired batch size) @ approx $30? From the earlier responses just might be.
MM

5) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
Hopefully, no one will make a big stink about it.  :)
Just keep the real, good beans coming our way and it will all be
forgotten (and forgiven, if needed).
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Brent
Roasting in an SC/TO
For a Drip/Moka/Presspot Brew
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:18:01 -0800, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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6) From: Jared Andersson
Thank you for the effort Tom.  Jared
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:18:01 -0800, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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7) From: Les
Hey, Tom don't feel bad, we all had some more Luwak fun, puns and
jokes.  It sure is hard to think about drinking "crap" when there are
so many outstanding coffees out there.  Any word on the Panama crop? 
I would go for some more of the Jarmillio.  Lets see, I paid almost 25
a pound for that, so I could buy almost 5 times as much for one of the
best of the best at the same price as butt processed coffee.
Les
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:18:01 -0800, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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8) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
Tom
       At least you got a sense of the level of interest so you will be 
ready to make an offer and close the deal without allowing for 
re-negotiation to take place in the future.  My guess is that there 
will be other opportunities.
        Jim Gundlach
On Mar 24, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee wrote:
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"The espresso machine is an accessory to the grinder, not the other way 
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9) From: Bill Morgan
Tom,
I'm a relative newcomer here, just six months or so.  I am just STUNNED at
the effort and trouble you go through to take such good care of us,
your customers.
At this point I cannot imagine ever buying coffee anyplace else.  If a
real Luwak
deal comes along again, I'll be interested in the curiosity, but I
absolutely trust
your judgement of the value.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Bill
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:18:01 -0800, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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10) From: Brett Mason
You know, Les, your post makes me wonder..... I wonder if Luwak isn't
actually sponsored by Folgers...  Sounds like it is rated as their
high end coffee...
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:09:44 -0800, Les  wrote:
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Regards,
Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
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   _(( )_  Please don't spill the coffee!

11) From: Gene Smith
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Doesn't sound like folks you want to do business with anyway, Tom.  Just 
heard a similar story from a colleague in our business.  He was asked to 
put together an event for 400 people with a budget of over $100,000.00. 
Then it was for 200 and a reduced budget.  And then...when the dust 
settled, he had done 7 complete proposals, going up and down in the 
participant numbers and a different budget each time.  Final outcome: they 
decided to do most of the event themselves...but they did say that it would 
have been helpful if my buddy had been more "flexible."
Gene Smith
...and so it goes.

12) From: gil schluter
I have 5 acres of  land... if we can find some paradoxurus we can pen 
them up here then I think we can find a fair trade grower who might 
sell some ripe cherries to feed them.. hey maybe we can find a couple 
of fair trade growers from different regions and experiment....My 
oldest daughters boyfriend is going to Central America to work with a 
couple of coffee growers for six months.. I can have him work on the 
ripe cherries......
anybody have friends in Indonesian Islands ?
gil
On Mar 24, 2005, at 7:09 PM, Les wrote:
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13) From: Adam Grimes
Thanks for trying Tom.  Probably for the best anyway....  On one hand, I'm
sad to not get to try this really unique coffee... On the other hand, I
don't have to drink cat poop.  I guess that's one BIG ASS silver lining in
that cloud, huh?
Thanks again!!!
Adam

14) From: Wandering Curmudgeon
I must be about the squarest square on the list.  When I was in high 
school the most daring thing we did was a beer bust way out in the 
country.  The only keys we were interested in fit a car ignition - and I 
grew up in California!
And to save Ben the effort - no - we didn't bring our horses to the 
party we walked in four feet of snow.
John - enjoying a blueberry-less Harrar that is none the less very good.
Tom Ulmer wrote:
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15) From: Ben Treichel
Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee wrote:
Even though I didn't want any, I appreciate the effort.

16) From: Ben Treichel
gil schluter wrote:
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You forgot to mention - "organically proceesed"
FYI, before someone gets a hernia, that not a slap at FT.
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17) From: Tom Ulmer
Sounds like how we used to organize parties in high school...

18) From: Tom Ulmer
At least they gave him a reach-around before they finished...

19) From: Ben Treichel
Wandering Curmudgeon wrote:
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I'm hurt and insulted!! I never thought that! After all I still remember 
you saying something about falling off of your dinosaur! ;-)  My memory 
still works (or at least that s what i remember)

20) From: Wandering Curmudgeon
OH YEAH!!   I FEEL A BIG ORDER COMING ON!   WHERE'S MY CREDIT CARD!
JOHN - lover of wossy Centrals :O))
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21) From: Tom & Maria
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Right - I think discussing it is about 110% of the enjoyment , just 
the fact it exists. The coffee itself is  -10%
Tom
PS: Speaking of good coffees, we might be seeing the Kenya late today 
and I will add it before the weekend. The Costa Rica La Minita is 
here and available! It's a bigger harvest this year, cherry ripened a 
bit earlier so it's here in March instead of April. I think the 
acidity is a little up, there's good aroma as always and maybe a bit 
more vanilla, but La Minita is really a milder, balanced, clean cup 
overall, not screaming acidity or racy flavors. Well, most CR fists 
this description, and The La Amistad is a surprise for having more 
body and more character than it has in a few years. Chiapas is due 
Monday I believe. Light body, snappy, simple - when I get tired of 
over-the-top yemens etc, this is a good place to turn. OH, I forgot, 
we have on the schedule a single estate Costa Rica Pulped Natural 
coffee, (for those who miss the Santa Elena "Miel".) We basically got 
the farm to do a small amount just for us, and it's a farm coffee, 
not a mill "brand" so hopefully it will come in good. Sumatra 
Lintong, not the #2 kind of Lintong ie Luwak, is due either today or 
Monday, but I would check the review because it is a rougher 
preparation but a very nice cup at darker roasts.
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            Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting  -  Tom & Maria
                          george
                      http://www.sweetmarias.com

22) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
On Mar 25, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Tom & Maria wrote:
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      Looks like time to put Harvey back to work.  Carol totally missed 
the last order but the stash is growing and getting more obvious.
          Jim Gundlach
"The espresso machine is an accessory to the grinder, not the other way 
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23) From: Les
Jim,
You sneeky guy!  That said, my wife has a meeting on late Friday
afternoons and Brown has me last on the route.  It is amazing how many
SM orders go in late Tue. or Early Wed. to be delivered on Friday by
UPS.
Les
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:17:53 -0600, Pecan Jim Gundlach
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24) From: Wandering Curmudgeon
Les wrote:
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Knock it off Les, that kind of clever bragging will get you nowhere. 
Those of us blessed with incredible weather and wide open spaces are 
used to waiting a routine 9 days from the placement of an order.  I use 
that excuse on my beloved constantly to justify the growing mountain of 
coffee beans in the walk-in closet.  And wait until the order I just 
placed arrives - I may be sleeping in there with them.
John - coffee ordering and roasting fool <?? putz ??> today


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