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Topic: Not surprised by Randy - at all - over MG (4 msgs / 241 lines)
1) From: Renaud Dreyer
I think the only you'll be able to make Randy correct his statements 
is to complain about them in alt.coffee. Good luck,
           Renaud
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2) From: Dwight Anderson
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Just fyi - I read a number of threads on or 
regarding Randy's view of Tom and MG...etc.
 
His action does not surprise me.  I sent an 
e-mail (maybe two or three over a year ago)  to Randy expressing my 
dissatisfaction with his statements in Chapter 10 - on his web site - he never 
responded to me.  It has been one of the major reasons for me no longer 
posting information on the web and/or news group wrt roasting and 
espresso.  I've found too many people using my materials, and research 
without asking permission, nor willing to make changes when asked. 
 
 
This is what I experienced : 
 
From Randy's web page :
 
Chapter 10 Give me More
 
"I viewed them separately and started having some 
doubts about the first one. I opened them in separate viewers and watched them 
simultaneously. It became immediately clear that something odd was happening.. I 
could easily see that CoffeeKid's video was showing the production of beautiful 
espresso and as the draw neared its end, the crema formed at the top of the shot 
revealing the rich brew below. I came to the conclusion that the first video 
showed a coffee product produced using a portafilter with some sort of crema 
enhancing device. Watch it again- even when the draw is concluded in the Dwight 
Anderson video there is very little espresso seen in the shot glass below the 
'crema.' All there is to be seen is an ounce of crema-colored liquid with the 
tiniest bit of espresso at the bottom- yuchhh. If you want that then simply brew 
some strong coffee and put it into a blender set to frappe. The video produced 
by the CoffeeKid shows a beautiful cup of espresso that any of us would be proud 
to serve our guests."

      My problems with the page are these :

1. Randy never asked me permission to reference my web page and or video. 2. When I pointed out that the 'machine' was identified - he did not make a change 3. It seemed to me that he came across very opinionated with little data to support conclusions. 4. He is not willing to update / retract / nor edit  his pages even when requested to do so.   I consider Tom  lucky to get Randy to remove the page he placed on the web -  I don't believe in lawsuits for liable - but it sure makes one think about it.  Any lawyers with their inputs?      Regards, Dwight

3) From: Glen Sutherland
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What 
is the URL to his page?
 

Peace, Glen ICQ 34239611 Drago Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus Abit BX 6r2 1.8v | PIII 700 | Alpha PAL-6035

 

4) From: Daniel J. Piette
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-----Original Message----- From: homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-admin]On Behalf Of Glen Sutherland Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 6:02 PM To: homeroast Subject: RE: +Not surprised by Randy - at all - over MG

 

What is the URL to his page?

 

Peace, Glen ICQ 34239611 Drago Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus Abit BX 6r2 1.8v | PIII 700 | Alpha PAL-6035

 



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