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Topic: new roaster - Iroast or Zach and Dani (9 msgs / 227 lines)
1) From: akkmom
Hi, everyone.  I'm thinking about getting a new roaster and am torn between the new Hearthware or the Zach and Dani's.  I have a fresh roast that I've used for the past year and a half.  I'm happy with it, but I would like the option of longer roasting times and larger batch (I'm the only real coffee drinker in the house, but I still seem to be roasting every two days or so with the fresh roast).  Any thoughts?
Hi, everyone.  I'm thinking about getting a new roaster and am torn between the new Hearthware or the Zach and Dani's.  I have a fresh roast that I've used for the past year and a half.  I'm happy with it, but I would like the option of longer roasting times and larger batch (I'm the only real coffee drinker in the house, but I still seem to be roasting every two days or so with the fresh roast).  Any thoughts?

2) From: Bob
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As a user of a Z&D, I think you will continue to roast every two days or =
so. The roasters output is around 4oz. If you can get outside, or under =
the stove hood, I would recommend the Stir Crazy/Turbo Oven combo for =
about the same price, but with more ease of control & easily double the =
batch size.
I keep my Z/D around mainly for ease of roasting up samples.
Bob

3) From: Philip Keleshian
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Hi akkmom,
 
They are both good roasters.  I have a Z&D and a Hearthware precision.  =
The Precision is the predecessor of the I - roast. 
 
The HWP is very noisy and I believe the I - roast is as noisy.  You are =
using a fresh roast so you know about smoke. The I - roast is going to =
make more smoke since it is does larger loads.  The catalytic converter =
on the Z&D works, you do not get visible smoke.  I understand that a =
Fresh Roast is quiet.  I don't know if the Z&D is quieter than a Fresh =
Roast but it is much quitter than a Hearthware.  The cracks in the Z&D =
are difficult to hear in spite of the fact that it is quiet.
 
Out of the box I think the I - roast will be more versatile as you can =
experiment with roast profiles.  With the Z&D you will be preheating and =
adjusting bean load to get the roast you want.  Actually with the =
Hearthware the size of the load is also important.  The cooling of the =
Z&D is probably less effective than other home roasters so will want to =
arrange for some other cooling devise.
 
If you are not contraption - phobic (thermocouple probes, variable =
transformers, and the like) I think the Z&D will be more versatile than =
the I - roast or most any other home roasters.
 
I typically roast about 6 oz of beans in a load but smaller loads are =
accommodated by using less power though-out the roast.
 
If you look at this string you can see pictures and even an electrical =
schematic of my modified Z&D:
 http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/homeroast/29149 
Phil

4) From: Brett Mason
If you have an outdoor barbeque with a side burner, I would encourage you t=
o 
try a skillet or two (1-2lb loads) over a medium flame, and turning/stirrin=
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a lot. You may find you love this method, as I have done. Or you may find=
 
you dislike this method, as some have reported... 
 I keep hearing about the automated roaster breakdowns, and I wonder who ha=
s 
the patience and money to spend on those... Then again, no-one writes to sa=
y 
"my roaster keeps on roasting", so maybe they do last longer than appears o=
n 
list.
 I love my skillet roasting - did another two lb before work this morning. =
I 
also use my poppers for small 3-4oz loads....
 Regards,
Brett
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5) From: john kahla
Hi Akkomom,
You didnt say what kind of coffee you like, what roast you like, and
if you find anything a shortcoming with the Freshroast except roast
size. I have both, use both, and depending upon what you want to do
for a roast could give you some pro/con on each machine.
John

6) From: Demian Ebert
Afternoon-
I have an I-roast that replaced a couple of Toastmasters. The larger
batch size was certainly a consideration. However, I still find myself
roasting every other day (or more frequently). Of course this leads to
larger orders of green beans, a larger stash, and storage issues, but
that's another topic.
The i-roast is loud and hearing second crack can be a real challenge.
Sometimes it is hard to determine the difference between beans pinging
off the glass and second crack.
My major complaint was that the temperatures programmed aren't
generated by the roaster. I cannot understand why this is, but that
too is another topic. It took me quite some time to figure out the
temperature differential and how to adjust my profiles to get the
roast I wanted. Once that was taken care of the tinkering with
profiles is pretty fun and not too hard. The programming interface for
the I-roast is, in the words of Tom " lame." But it seems to work and
once you've done it a few times it gets easier.
I've only been roasting in it since late January, so I can't speak to
the durability issues. But I figured if I got a couple of years out of
it I'd be happy. We'll see.
Decafs can be an issue because the I-roast tends to rely on a
backpressure created by the chaff to help maintain and increase
temperature, but the addition of some foil in-front of the final
screen seems to work well to address this issue.
Whatever you choose, there will be a learning curve as you figure out
the quirks and tricks.
Demian
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7) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Brett Mason wrote:
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My split-wired variac'ed Poppery I keeps on roasting. About a year, now.
Dave S.

8) From: akkmom
Hi - I like mostly medium roasts - or maybe just a few seconds into second crack.  I generally drink drip coffee and sometimes French Press (especially at work since the coffee is vile and there's a ban on appliances in our offices).  I have an espresso machine that was a gift but it makes completely vile espresso.  I've had espresso once that I thought was phenomenal - in Florence, Italy - I'd be willing to try that more, but I think I need to get a better machine first.  
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9) From: miKe mcKoffee
From: "Brett Mason" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: +new roaster - Iroast or Zach and Dani
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the patience and money to spend on those... Then again, no-one writes to say
"my roaster keeps on roasting", so maybe they do last longer than appears on
list.
Ok, I've been hammering my Rostos for over 4yrs slamming Frankie dual 
voltage boosted heater and fan 1/2# batches back to back no cooling between 
roasts except cooling cycle. Not automated no, just controlled profiles any 
way I want 'em.
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also use my poppers for small 3-4oz loads....
No argument. Skillet/wok roasting can get great results. Also great skill to 
have for if no electricity. I don't need or want 1#+ batches however and 
find overall easier to use Frankie Rosto setup for my 1/2# multiple type 
greens batches.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm


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