It must be spring with all these cleaning questions. I also have a question. I seem to have read somewhere that there are some products that shouldn't be used to clean the E-santos, but can't find the post. I have some Cafiza. Woulsd that be ok? Of course the manual says the only thing to use is Bodum's own product. <Snip> |
Bodum includes a packet their "branded" cleaner, which is actually just CleanCaf I'm fairly certain, sure looks and acts the same. I've been using Cleancaf to clean my Bodum eVacs for quite some time. Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmFrom: "David Johnson" Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:03 AM <Snip> |
At 11:03 AM -0500 4/29/05, David Johnson wrote: <Snip> Cafiza would be way too harsh for the polycarbonate in the E-Santos. Get some Clearly Coffee from our hosts. If you want something while Tom's figuring out where it is, pick up some denture cleaning tablets at the drug store. Best, David -- "A fool and his money are soon elected." - Kinky Friedman |
Was going to clean my automatic drip pots with white vinegar. Are there any recommended proportions of vinegar to water or how much does one use if undiluted. MSMB Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
I don't remember what the recommended amount of white vinegar is, but I have always used "a couple glugs" from the bottle, which would be about 1/4C to the reservoir and top off with water. Run the batch through, then at least one rinse cycle with plain water. This has worked just fine for me. I don't have hard water, but there is some mineral content. Best regards, Ken. |
Myself I always used it undiluted. I ran a quarter of a pot through twice. Then I would run two full pots of clean water to rinse. It always worked great for me. John H. |
Vinegar works great cleaning coffee brewers, or does it? How do you know? Years ago we used a drip brewer and used very similar cleaning procedure, undiluted white vinegar run through twice. (Except always used pull pot of vinegar.) Wondered how well it really worked. Tried some bottled "coffee cleaners" available grocery stores, using them after the vinegar and rinse to see if any additional "dirtiness" could be detected. Never did. BUT then later learned about Cleancaf and again wondered if that "expensive stuff Tom sells" was really any good. "Bit the bullet" for the ridiculously expensive ~$1.50 per cleaning Cleancaf and tested. First did a couple straight white vinegar cycles, couple water flush cycles, then a pack of Cleancaf cycle. Ripped off! Not by the Cleancaf, AFTER vinegar cleaning and rinsing the Cleancaf cycle came out rather funky, no ripped off for years thinking vinegar was a good cleaner. Fairly certain the "why" is vinegar works as a descaler, not a cleaner to dissolve built up coffee oils. OTOH Cleancaf is a cleaner and mild descaler. Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. Pacific Northwest Gathering VIIhttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/">http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVII.htmSweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/ <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
So, miKe, do you now use both or just Cleancaf? On 10/3/08, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
We have very hard water and I've always done it the way John does. I use a filter to catch the chunks that come through, and run the hot vinegar through again, maybe even a couple times, depending on how long its been since the last time. -- Dave Some days... It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:36 PM, MSMB wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
Neither, don't use a drip brewer. Prior to getting rid of drip used Cleancaf only. Also used strictly Cleancaf for Bodum Electric Vac that replaced drip. (Until giving up on eVac's after multiple of them cracking from heat stress.) Cleancaf does what vinegar does PLUS better cleaning of the rancid oils. Now whatever coffee device needs cleaning or descaling use Cafiza or Purocaff etc. (in proper dilution for particular device) for cleaning and citric acid for descaling. Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. Pacific Northwest Gathering VIIhttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/Homeroast mailing list">http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVII.htmSweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
If I can throw my 2 cents in...I agree with miKe here. I ran vinegar and even baking soda through our drip brewer a few times, but then I decided to purchase a bottle of Joe Glo. I have ran it through the drip brewer, and used it as a soaking liquid for my FP. It's worked great for both. My wife and I were shocked at the sparkling clean carafe. It's rather enjoyable to again drink coffee untainted from nasty oils. Brian On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:58 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
Use a full pot of 50/50 vinegar and water. Then run a couple pots of clean water to rinse. From: homeroast-bounces [homeroast-bounces] On Behalf Of MSMB [msmb] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 12:36 AM To: homeroast Subject: [Homeroast] cleaning Was going to clean my automatic drip pots with white vinegar. Are there any recommended proportions of vinegar to water or how much does one use if undiluted. MSMB Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20Homeroast mailing list">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
At 09:50 AM 10/3/2008, you wrote: <Snip> If all you want to do is clean a glass carafe of coffee stains, a bit of bleach in a carafe full of water does wonders. But don't put bleach through the brewer, jut put it in the carafe, also works good for glass thermos bottles. Ira Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
Greetings, group, The sanitizing hand-wipes available at grocery-stores' front doors have many uses. I've found them great for removing the schmutz (sp?) from steering-wheels, and interior cleaning of my Behmor. I save them in a plastic bag. If they dry out, they can be refreshed with a little bit of water. Best of all: they're free to us! Try 'em; you'll be surprised! sent from my kitchen counter robert yoder Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://host.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
Robert Yoder wrote: <Snip> Well, not really. The cost of those wipes is factored into the profit margin of the store, which means higher prices at the checkout counter. A package of WetWipes costs about a buck. Or you could just keep a bottle of 70% isopropyl alcohol (75 cents) and an old washrag in your glovebox. Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://host.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
Perhaps you are technically correct, but his point is still valid in practice, either way we have to pay the price for the wipes when we buy our doughnuts, whether we actually use them or not- so in effect the marginal cost of taking and accumulating the wipes during a given store visit is zero relative to a similar visit in which we do not take the wipes. Further, I imagine that the wipes present a very minor impact on the store's P&L relative to all things considered. Now sure, the argument can be made that if we all started grabbing wipes every time we visited the store then that line item on the companies P&L statement would start to increase and we could probably expect to see store prices increase to compensate. I have two thoughts on this: 1) Given the swine flu epidemic/pandemic, I speculate without data that the number of wipes being used in stores has increased dramatically. Thus it seems plausible to suspect that this increased usage (which I speculate will be in large part temporary) has already been factored into the companies budget and is reflected in the price accordingly. 2) Regarding everybody grabbing wipes all at once: sure- this is true in theory but I do not think the roasting list has that great of an ability to move such economic indicators as sanitizing wipes (no offence). Since sanitizing wipes are not particularly a rare commodity, I see no reason to be concerned here. -- Ryan M. Ward *Note: This email was sent from a computer running Ubuntu Linux 9.10 (Karmic Koala)http://www.ubuntu.com**Note: This signature was placed here by me and is not automatically-generated-annoying-end-of-email-spam placed here by anyone other than myself. I am a Linux nut and am doing my part to support open source software and the Linux and Ubuntu communities by getting the word out with each email I send, I encourage you to do the same. <Snip> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://host.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
Folks, This seems a bit of overthink, me thinks. Of course nothing is free - hence my modifier. My point is that if you take one to wipe your hands as intended, put it in your pocket and use it again for other things. This goes to material frugality, not spendthriftiness. I trust the truthiness of this is clear to all but the engineers among us! robert <Snip> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://host.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
I called the Kid and asked her if they [Archivers] have the "free" wipes and how much it costs them. "Oh my God- probably just a generic Clorox or Lysol wipe. Never mind, how cheap they are that way. Would you drink coffee processed by that machine? Starbucks would get an express Shutdown order if they did that. Take it to the bank, Pop- " - - - Sarah Owen On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Ryan M. Ward wrote: <Snip> -- Persist in old ways; expect new results - suborn Insanity... Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://host.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
My goodness, this has taken an odd tack! I don't brew coffee in my Behmor, and haven't figured out how to brew with the steering wheel either. Is there some kind of cabin fever going on here? I suppose if you have no other mountain-making supplies, you can try to make one out of my suggestion of an additional use or two for self-used sanitizing wipes (rather than simply tossing them). robert yoder sent from my workbench <Snip> Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://host.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
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And yet, no one's quoted Lady Macbeth, yet... On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Ryan M. Ward wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://host.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
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