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Topic: Mr Tross? and Hello to the List! (8 msgs / 280 lines)
1) From: David Yeager
At 05:27 PM 5/20/2005 -0500, you wrote:
 >> Peter,
 >>
 >> Did you get a Zass, or even better, a Fass?  I always feel especially
 >> proud to see a Fassenhaus out there...
 >>
 >> My first Zass was a Fass, but actually is a Zass - tough on non-users to
 >> read the script on the handle...
 >>
 >> OK, just for a sanity check, go to www.ebay.de and search for
 >> Zassenhaus - you will be astonished at the availabilityand prices...
 >> We're just a long way from Kansas, Toto...
 >>
 >> Brett
 >It seems that I have succeeded in driving up the prices of Fass/Zass's all
 >over ebay. One Fass I bid on is currently up to $36. I guess it is good to
 >let the big spenders get it out of their systems when I am looking at a
 >back up to take camping.
 >
 >That is why I turned to Mr Tross. Anyone got an idea of how the grind is
 >adgusted on grinders like that? I don't know if it is OK to post a link,
 >but you can search ebay for Armin Trosser. It seems less than Zass's are
 >currently going for.
 >
Atlanta Nine-month-old Home Roaster de-lurking here.
First of all, Hello to all of you whose names I have gotten to know over 
the past five-six months; especially BigFish George and ZigZag Nancy, who 
may remember me as "verde" in other Cyberspaces.
Second, to the point at hand.  The "Armin Trosser" and another brand named 
"KYM" have a wing-nut style adjusting lever on the lower end of the 
grinding assembly.  Remove the drawer and take a peek.  Both of these are 
sturdy grinders.  They don't have quite the snob appeal of a Zassenhaus, 
but I have never done the "consumer reports" comparisons for reliability or 
sifted out and graphed the "fines" - although I'm sure somebody has.  I 
have also gotten other brands of grinders on eBay that I have just given 
away in disgust.
I got two Zasses through the German eBay site for about forty bucks 
each.  That's about $15-20 for the grinders and the rest for shipping and 
currency exchange.  Germans tend not to use PayPal (because they have a 
sophisticated interbank money transfer system), so getting the items paid 
for can be a real issue.  In one case I just sent two Yankee twenty dollar 
bills because I couldn't find a convenient place to get Euros in Atlanta 
(one American Express office had them).  In the eBay "Community" forums 
there are some folks who ware helpful with understanding how to send money 
to Germany and will do translations to German for you, if you like.
I also got a Fassenhaus from an American seller.  Thanks to whomever posted 
that tip.
Finally, de-cloaking.  I got drawn in by the "for only fifteen dollars you 
can get a popcorn popper and roast your own coffee."   Wow, that's 
cheap!  Hook, line, and sinker!   They didn't tell me that one popper leads 
to another, especially for a tinkerer.  Graphs of time and temperature; 
sights sounds, and smells -- calibrating the old Intuition for Zen Roasting 
later on.
Heatgun/dogbowl, eh?  That's pretty cheap, too.  At first.  Gotta have the 
better model heatgun before long.  And a better dogbowl.  And a turntable 
to help in stirring the beans.
Bread machines will stir the beans for you, you say?  at the thrift 
store?  Very cheap.  Got four of them for under twenty bucks, along with 
four more poppers.  Of course, I had to explain all this to everyday in 
line with me at the thrift store.  "Mad scientist," they're muttering.
So, I stripped down the bread machines, found out that one of them would 
"stir" for fifteen minutes and had a place to put one of Tom's thermometers 
right there in the side of the loaf pan.  Could roast up to a pound even in 
foul weather.
Can mount a heavy pan to the bottom mechanism of a bread pan, you 
say?  Drills, saws, pop rivets, eh?  Cheap, very cheap.  Can roast a pound 
and half with digital probe to help while slowing the roast between first 
and second.  Cheap, kinda cheap.
Over a hundred pounds of greens and two dozen varieties.  Cheap, really, or 
certainly very reasonable, when compared to *$
A network of two dozen friends and co-workers to support the roasting 
habit?  No problemo.  I know of a guy named "Tom" who has hundreds 
supporting his.  ;^)   They even send him money.  He even has a guy named 
Harvey to help out.  Heheheh.
A friend has mentioned something to my wife about an "intervention," but 
they're both compromised at this point being turned on to home roast as 
they are.  Anyway, it sounds scary and I fear I might have to sell off my 
collection of vac pots, Chemexs, poppers, press pots, home-made burlap 
bags, etc, to pay for treatment.  I only have two moka plots and I haven't 
even used those Turbo Ovens or the 57 rpm motors yet.  I even let myself 
get outbid on three Variacs.
I can't be THAT bad, can I?
Is it safe for me to try espresso?  A friend said that if I stuck to the 
large chain coffee shops I'd be OK.  Is this true?
Loving the ambient temps here in Atlanta,
David

2) From: peter
Very well said David.
Now, if I really had gone to char$ and spent for a grande (?) and 
counted the fuel to get there, plus the lack of entertainment value, and 
not being allowed to touch anything there, it really would have cost me 
more than I have invested in the past 18 mo.
Another way.. if I charge myself only 2 bucks a cup for all the great 
coffee I have made since my first popper roast.. gosh, I really can 
afford an Andreja, and still be ahead on the savings :)
Naaa, I bet I can build a better espresso machine.... has anyone on here 
tried?? Dan??
PeterZ
Staying in, away from the 115F outside in the shade, here in LHC
David Yeager wrote:
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3) From: David Yeager
At 05:33 PM 5/21/2005 -0700, you wrote:
 >Very well said David.
 >Now, if I really had gone to char$ and spent for a grande (?) and
 >counted the fuel to get there, plus the lack of entertainment value, and
 >not being allowed to touch anything there, it really would have cost me
 >more than I have invested in the past 18 mo.
 >Another way.. if I charge myself only 2 bucks a cup for all the great
 >coffee I have made since my first popper roast.. gosh, I really can
 >afford an Andreja, and still be ahead on the savings :)
 >Naaa, I bet I can build a better espresso machine.... has anyone on here
 >tried?? Dan??
 >
 >PeterZ
 >Staying in, away from the 115F outside in the shade, here in LHC
 >
Peter,
I want you to know that I have been inspired and encouraged by your 
pictures and descriptions of the TurboBeast, et al.  Someday I'd like to 
find out about what happened about beans spilling out of one of your 
creations, but I don't want to go too far off topics in my debut.  ;^)
115 in the shade?!?  Sheesh!
David

4) From: zigzagmolly
Welcome David,
Ah, yes...the bread machines. I believe you tried to warn me about the
inevitablity of all this as I was transitioning from Poppery to HG/DB.
 I, as usual, drove straight ahead at warp speed. And here we are.... 
An hour ago, I was researching Zasses to see if I should look for one
in Germany while we're there. I could use it while I was there, too. 
People keep talking about leaving room in my luggage to bring things
home.  Since I don't plan on buying lederhosen, cuckoo clocks or beer
steins, I fugured I would bring home coffee paraphenalia and chocolate
and maybe some T-shirts for my grandchildren.
And to think I started doing this because I wanted to save my
migratory birds with shade grown, organic coffee that was just too
expensive to buy roasted.
Take care,
Nancy, who loves Peru Norte and just bought 20 lbs to add to her stash
for a total of 34 lbs.

5) From: Les
David,
If you take the espresso plunge, you are in for a fun ride!  Pressure
extracted coffee is the best in my opinion.
Les
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6) From: peter
It is probably better documented somewhere other than my weak and 
withered  mind, but I can't remember beans flying out of the turbo beast.
In fact, I loose less beans with it than I did with them blowing out of 
the Poppery.
The only recollection I have is when I first tried to cool the beans 
with the hand held hair dryer on high. I held it too close and that 
scattered some beans.
No worry about beans falling out the hole in the bottom. When things are 
cool I just tip it on it's side and dump them into a SS mixing bowl. The 
mixing unit stays together always.
I am very happy with the set up, although I will be improving the 
insulation, and maybe add  another heater element outside the bowl, 
between it and the insulation.
With loads under a pound and a half the profiling is pretty  good as it 
is now though, and I do not anticipate needing to roast more than that 
in the near future.
Thanks for your interest. 
PeterZ
Thinking it is time to roast some Liquid Amber, here in LHC
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7) From: David Johnson
I am inspired to try out bidding on Mr Tross. Thanks to you and others
that have given Mr Tross thumbs up.
Zassman may have the cachet, but who needs cachet on a kayak expedition? I
mean, besides everyone?
Maybe I can get my wife convinced it is important to snatch up one of the
remaining 169's.
I may also consider an Ibrik. There's something you don't see much on ebay
(except the ones that you wear on your head).
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8) From: David Johnson
I am not the first to respond to my own post on the list.
2 Fass's just went for $36 each. Will the sanity ever end?
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