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1) From: Dan Martin
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Well,  I think I've had it with these cheap manual roasting tools.  Now =
I know that the experienced roaster can achieve any roast with any tool, =
but that is not I.  I also know that the price tag does not always =
determine roast quality either.  I loved my B2B popper until it died =
last night.  But even with that, I wasn't getting the even roast I =
desire.  Anyhoot... today I bought a dog bowl and borrowed a heat gun =
from a buddy at work.  I got home to put it to use and BAM!! it also =
died after using it for 5 minutes.  CRAZY!!  So then without anything to =
roast in, I took the whirley thing out of my dead popper so it looked =
like a pot, put two oven mits on, stood over the popper and swirled the =
beans around.  Even with that, the roast wasn't too even.(not to =
mention, sweating everywhere, including into the popper..EEWWW)  So, =
I've come to the conclusion that if I can spend good money on a decent =
grinder and espresso machine, then I'm going to spend some money on a =
reliable roaster.  
         Here is my question:
                   Since I only have a charcoal grille; to get set up =
with an RK roaster, I would have to get a grille, and the drum with the =
rotisserie. OR, I can spend around the same amount of money on a Hot =
Top.  Right off the bat, I know that the RK can roast more at a time, =
but the most i ever roast at a time is a pound.  And that is usually =
Espresso. (8 ounces for regular coffee.
                    For those who have used these before, can I get some =
input as to which one would be the best investment as well as which one =
can produce a nice even roast?

2) From: Francis Cashman
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Dan,
I haven't used a rotisserie but I do use a HotTop and it does produce =
even, reliable, repeatable roasts even though I have to use a =
transformer in Australia.
Frank

3) From: miKe mcKoffee
That is indeed a tough question and decision. Both RK setup or HotTop would 
be capable of very good even drum roasts. HotTop easier to use. Gas grill RK 
setup more flexible batch sizes and I'd definitely say less chance of 
breaking down.
Flip a coin or get both!-)
Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 5:43 PM
         Here is my question:
                   Since I only have a charcoal grille; to get set up with 
an RK roaster, I would have to get a grille, and the drum with the 
rotisserie. OR, I can spend around the same amount of money on a Hot Top. 
Right off the bat, I know that the RK can roast more at a time, but the most 
i ever roast at a time is a pound.  And that is usually Espresso. (8 ounces 
for regular coffee.
                    For those who have used these before, can I get some 
input as to which one would be the best investment as well as which one can 
produce a nice even roast?

4) From: Barbara Greenspon
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I love the HotTop and have not used the drum, but I did get to see one, 
and its gorgeous.  But I can definitely speak for the hottop.
Barbara
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5) From: akkmom
Right now I have a Fresh Roast and a Zach and Dani's - when I replace them I will probably get a Hot Top.  I love my Fresh Roast (despite the short roast times and small capacity - it does a great job at darker roasts IMO) - the Zach and Dani's is OK - I'm still getting used to it - it roasts a little long sometimes but is good with the lighter roasts.   I'm not familiar with the RK set up, but depending on where you live, there could be a weather issue (I live in PA, so you don't want to have to roast outside with a grill in February).  I've also tried roasting in a wok and it worked okay - but you have to stir constantly - I have two kids under the age of three, so standing over a wok for 20 minutes stirring constantly isn't always the easiest thing to do.  Try looking at the reviews at coffeegeek.com - I think the Hot Top by and large gets great reviews.
Tara
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6) From: Terry Stockdale
I've had both the Hottop and the RK Drum and have written a bunch about 
them on my website.
Of the two, in my experience, is the easier to get consistent roasts -- 
it's enclosed (not subject to wind) and has a built-in thermocouple to 
control its heaters.  HOWEVER, expect to purchase a Variac 
also.   Otherwise, you'll be at the mercy of the power line's voltage 
swings (you may not be able to get dark roast in the Summer when everyone 
is running their airconditioners because the line voltage will be 4-6 volts 
lower than the morning voltage.
I now use an RK Drum and I wouldn't go back to the Hottop.  It's just more 
fun.  It is also faster on a per batch basis, even ignoring that my batches 
are 12-20 ounces instead of my Hottop 9 ounce batches.
With the Hottop, I'd start it and then read for the next 12-14 minutes 
before I started paying attention to the roast stage (usually roasted 16-18 
minutes after the Hottop's "add beans now" beep).
With the RK Drum, I pay attention to the gas flow and temperature 
throughout the roast.
--
Terry Stockdale -- Baton Rouge, LA
My website:http://www.terrystockdale.comMy blog:   http://www.TheNextWindow.com

7) From: Wandering Curmudgeon
On 6/4/05, Terry Stockdale  wrote:
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Terry - not everyone lives in Hurricane Alley and has to contend with
all the stuff you Floridians do :O)
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How about a Probat?  Now there's a roaster!   Just needed to stir the pot :=
O)
I love my HotTop, but as somebody said earlier - you really can get a
great roast from almost anything -  I'm still working on my cement
truck and jet engine!
John - loving life in the slow lane

8) From: Terry Stockdale
At 09:29 PM 6/4/2005, Slow Lane John wrote:
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Different Terry -- I'm the one in Louisiana -- still the deep South with 
air conditioning from March to December.
--
Terry Stockdale -- Baton Rouge, LA
My website:http://www.terrystockdale.comMy blog:   http://www.TheNextWindow.com

9) From: Pecan Jim Gundlach
Dan
They can both produce an even roast.   You will be able to list the RK =
drum in your will, the Hot Top will have been replaced many times over =
unless you have reasons to believe that your life expectancy is rather =
short.
       Jim Gundlach
On Jun 4, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Dan Martin wrote:
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"The espresso machine is an accessory to the grinder, not the other way =
around."
Dan
They can both produce an even roast.   You will be able to list the RK
drum in your will, the Hot Top will have been replaced many times over
unless you have reasons to believe that your life expectancy is rather
short.
      Jim Gundlach
On Jun 4, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Dan Martin wrote:
Arial For those who have
used these before, can I get some input as to which one would be the
best investment as well as which one can produce a nice even roast?
"The espresso machine is an accessory
to the grinder, not the other way around."

10) From: DJ Garcia
Louisiana, Florida, what's the diff :O)?
Hey, I'm in NYC - oh, look, the A/C compressor just kicked in :-). OTOH,
I haven't noticed any appreciable change in my HT's behavior that I
couldn't attribute to other variables (weight of beans, etc.) - I
believe it does have SOME regulation which helps as long as it doesn't
drop too much. Or maybe we have better trained hamsters in our power
generators ... Strictly sensory observations here - no lab tests :-).
Laid-Back DJ
Where Coffee Means Relaxation, Not Obsession ...


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