<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> Can I have someones take on the Bodum Antigua Grin...? Thanks in advance. - Chris Smith
Hi, Chris. I just bought one of these for use at the office. Not a bad grinder, but compared to the Solis 166/Starbucks Barista, it sucks. It has the same burr set as the Solis grinders, but the overall design, fit and finish is not nearly as good. Also, out of the box, it's pretty well useless for filter drip or espresso. On the drip setting, I was getting small pebbles, and on the French press setting, pretty much the whole unground bean came out. So, I had to disassemble it (very easy) and modify the grind range about 3 or 4 clicks. Now it's fine for drip, but still would never pass for espresso. My Solis 166 grinds much finer. Otherwise, after modifying it, it's a good deal for $60 or $70. Little static and large hopper capacities. Chris homeroast wrote: <Snip> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today athttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast">http://webmail.netscape.com/homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
-=> On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:27:13 -0700, "Chris Smith" said: <Snip> I bought one from Costco's on-line store a while back. It's not as good as I was expecting. The burrs are fine, great actually, but the assembly that holds the ring is no so great.. there's lots of slop. As I received the grinder, it was *far* to coarse to be useful for espresso. I did the usual Internet modifications to make it finer, and it was still not good. So I went wild, and hogged out a bunch of plastic at the 'end stop' until I could turn it a good ten or twelve (!) clicks past the finest setting. Now I get fine grind, but the burrs sometimes rub a little bit. And the hopper will lift right off at this setting, which isn't good. (It's well over 180-degrees from the coarse side hopper removal setting.) I think the ring that holds the outer burr allows too much play, so they touch sooner than it really should. But while I'm saving for that Rocky or MDF dream-grinder, the Antigua is turning out a repeatable fine grind that's actually working okay. I wouldn't let any kids near this potential finger-biter, though. Seems to be luck of the draw with these. Decent design with sloppy tolerances, maybe. -Steve homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
On 19 Jun 2001, at 1:27, Chris Smith wrote: <Snip> We've got one purchased on Costco's website (because our local stores don't carry them). It's working fine without modifications. I don't think the spouse has tried it with espresso yet, but the built-in settings are producing decent grinds for each of the vacuum, press and drip. I haven't tried one of the more expensive grinders, so can't make comparisons. Since it's working fine, we'll probably not bother with looking further until it needs replacement. <Snip> Sharon Allsup homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
At 10:48 AM 4/5/02 -0800, Bloch Studio wrote: <Snip> Sure it's okay to send a message this way - in fact, it's encouraged. ;-) Congratulations on undertaking roasting your own coffee. I've found it's more than a hobby - it's a requirement of life. ;-) Why don't you tell us how you typically brew your coffee, as this will give us an idea of what type of grinder you need. In the absence of other information, though, I'd recommend you buy a Solis Maestro from Tom. See it at Good luck in your roasting! Seth Goodman homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
I highly suggest the Solis Maestro. I find it a great grinder for any form of brewing. Espresso, Cafe' Crema, Vac, French Press, Drip... It's my fourth grinder in a couple years, had it since Christmas '01. Entirely happy with it. Don't skimp and try cheapo burr grinders like I did, gave a Braun and Capresso away... sold the retired Solis Mulino on eBay. (Maestro far superior the Mulino.) Grind really does make a difference, huge difference. MM;-) Home Roasting in Vancouver, WA USA
Susan, First, congrats on the Fresh Roast Plus purchase. I find it to be a fantastic roaster that produces very flavorful roasts. As for grinder, it really depends on what you are using it for. If you change grinds frequently (i.e. you prepare espresso, Turkish, press pot, drip all on the same day) you want to get a grinder that you can change easily. Tom sells the reasonably priced Solis Maestro grinder (one of two grinders I own) that fits this task perfectly. If, however, you only make espresso, you might want to consider a grinder that has a finer adjustment than the Maestro, such as the Rancilio Rocky or the Mazzer Mini. The grinder is a key part of the equation in making good coffee.... jim
Hi, I hope it's ok to send a message this way. I subscribe by the digest method and have enjoyed reading all of your posts. I just ordered a fresh roast plus roaster. I've been wanting to roast my own coffee for a year. I'd like to know what you recommend for grinding beans. thanks Susan homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
i will also add my congrats on taking the plunge into homeroasting. i took the step a little over a year ago and have been enjoying it ever since. even if you have consistent access to fresh roasted coffee from a supplier (i was spoiled by access to tom's roasts) there is nothing quite as much fun as having control over which coffee to roast and how to roast it. as far as grinders, i would echo the other comments that it very much depends on how you brew, particularly if you want to use it for espresso. that said, if you use a drip pot or vacuum (which you should investigate if you don't), my experience is that an inexpensive burr grinder will serve just fine. i use 5 yr old braun with a partially broken top at work to brew in a bodum santos and it works great. i think they run around $ 30 or $ 40 although i haven't checked recently. good luck! brian (worried about the survival prospects for the daffodils in columbus) From: "Bloch Studio" Reply-To: homeroast To: Subject: +grinder Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 10:48:42 -0800 Hi, I hope it's ok to send a message this way. I subscribe by the digest method and have enjoyed reading all of your posts. I just ordered a fresh roast plus roaster. I've been wanting to roast my own coffee for a year. I'd like to know what you recommend for grinding beans. thanks Susan homeroast mailing listhttp://messenger.msn.comhomeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast">http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastChat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:http://messenger.msn.comhomeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Like everyone else just about, the solis maestro is a wonderful grinder.= some people might have a hard time paying 129 plus shipping for it though.= It is worth it if you are the right person for it. However, if you are= just getting started you might not want to spend so much. In that case the= basic rule is: Burr grinder not blade grinder. If you require only 1 or 2 cups at a time a couple times a day, a hand= grinder might work for you. Tom has a great collection, buy one of his. If you require more coffee and feel 135 or so is too much to spend on a= grinder at this time, and are not doing espresso, then a cheaper burr= grinder might be the place to start. Someone makes one that is pretty= decent and lots of people put their name on it. Hearthware and Braun are= two names that are sometimes on it. You can probably pick one up at bed= bath and beyond. Do not expect it to be as good as the solis or the good= hand grinders, do not expect it to last forever. Expect some mess and lots= of static, but it'll be lots better than a blade grinder and lots easier= than a hand grinder, and you'll be able to make good coffee. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 04/05/2002 at 10:48 AM Bloch Studio wrote: <Snip> method <Snip> like <Snip> Steve Shank Oregon Computer Solutionshttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast">http://www.steveshank.comhomeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Lowell if you want a grinder that will last a very long time, and = produce grinds suitable for a wide range of brews, including espresso. = In the 2-3 hundred dollars range I'd go for the Rocky, and 3 to 4 = hundred the Mizer Mini. The Zassenhaus Hand Crank Mill produces a really nice grind for under 1 = hundred dollars. Ron Kyle Anderson SC rnkyle
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Could any of you suggest a good bean grinder. I'm very new into = roasting and have been using an inexpensive grinder for some time. = Thanks for any help. Lowell
There seems to be two major choices. The Mazzer Mini which costs about = $400. Although there is a place you can get it for $275 if you pay $1,100 or 1,200 for an espresso machine at the same time. The other choice is the Rocky for about $220. I would recommend the doserless version of the Rocky. Home users rarely use a grinder enough to need a = doser and as a result it tends to collect ground coffee and let it set = between grinding and brewing. The Mazzer has infinite adjustment which = some people with lever machines say they need. Jim Gundlach On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 05:44 PM, Lowell Nygaard wrote: <Snip> <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Hey Lowell... Depending on how much you have to brew, I found any of the Zass modelshttp://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.zas.shtmlto have dramatically improved my coffee experience, well, next to home roasting that is. I count a hundred turns or so for 22 grams set 1/2 turn back from the finest setting. Rich Adams
<Snip> If you're not into espresso, and were looking to spend a little less than the ones that have been recommended, the Solis Maestro is capable of producing acceptable results for drip, press, vac pot, etc. They're @ $129. Tom sells them: http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.solis-espresso.shtml#maestroupdatergf homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Robert Foster wrote: <Snip> FYI, that means don't use for espresso since the track record seems like they wear out in about a year of you do. I used a zass for all of my grinding before I got my rocky. Ben <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
From: "Lowell Nygaard" <Snip> and have been using an inexpensive grinder for some time. Thanks for any help. Lowell I decided to add my buck two ninety-eight after all. I'm part of the buy better and save money in the long run camp. A little over two years ago I thought to upgrade my decade old Braun burr grinder. Didn't bother to get input, and bought a Capresso 551 thinking it cost twice as much so must be better. WRONG, used it for two days went back to the Braun. Then ordered the Solis Mulino 177. Not bad with mediocre adjustabiltiy and lots of chute hang and static cling. (I wasn't into real espresso yet, just had a steam toy) Less than a year later *upgraded* to the Solis Maestro. Better adjustability, less chute hang and static. Two months later got Miss Silvia and discovered the Maestro worked *ok* for espresso. But not for long. Burrs wore out in just a few months do to burr slop & rub. Almost exactly a year after getting the Maestro got a Rocky. Two year and four grinder purchases totalling over $500. Gave the Capresso away to the local fire department with a couple pounds homeroast, sold the Mulino on ebay for $60, gave the wore out Maestro away with all kinds of disclaimers (though Scott says it works better than his whirley chop even with worn out burrs). So my Rocky cost me about $440 by not buying it first. Either buy a Rocky or better now, forget the Maestro IMNSHO, keep using your old grinder 'till you can afford it. At the minimum get a Zass hand grinder for now and save for a Rocky or better. Cheaper electric burr grinders will only waste money. MM;-) aka Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee FrankenRoast Dual Variable Transformer Rosto Roasting Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin' homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
This grinder experience is something I have done in the past with other products-it is why I hate buying without knowing something about the product-you buy your way up to the product that works and spend 2x in the process-been there and get a bad feeling when doing that.
i'd go with a zassenhaus unless you have a bigger budget and are using the grinder for espresso a short story of my search for a suitable grinder. at first i got a hearthware grinder that came with the old special of the gourmet roaster and grinder for 60 bucks. then i was sold on the solis mulino which gave a good grind only problem was the burrs wore out in 7 months. now i'm using a model 156 zassenhaus knee model. grinds in two minutes for a 4 cup pot of coffee. i use a kitchenaid ultra compact. i was sold on it by kevin sinnott's write up in his coffee book. anyway the zassenhaus has a 10 year warranty so i think i'll have use of it for some time. end of journey for a grinder-guy from long island homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Today while visiting my parents I walked to the attic and discovered a Zass. It works perfectly and there is an unbelievable difference in my coffee. I'm drinking a Kona Americana right now that's the best I've ever had. I had been using a cheap (Target) burr grinder. The Zass is a lot of work but the results are worth it. WOW. Gregg
Great find. I love mine. Don't even desire an electric now. Somehow the act of grounding the coffee myself keeps me more in the process of making the perfect cup. I guess it's more of a Zen thing as my brother would say.
Gregg, Great find. I hope you chime in supporting me the next time I get yelled at for trying to tell people that the only decent grinder I know of for less than a few hundred dollars is the Zass. Jim Gundlach On Aug 29, 2004, at 7:15 PM, Gregg Talton wrote: <Snip>
Lucky you Gregg: It is work but heck, ya gotta great cup after. ginny
Many of us have been preaching this message for a long time! The grind is the critical step after the roast and rest to achieve an excellent cup of coffee. Les Gregg Talton wrote: Today while visiting my parents I walked to the attic and discovered a Zass. It works perfectly and there is an unbelievable difference in my coffee. I'm drinking a Kona Americana right now that's the best I've ever had. I had been using a cheap (Target) burr grinder. The Zass is a lot of work but the results are worth it. WOW. Gregg
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. I've read post after post about the importance of a grinder but never acted. After watching my LaPavoni produce an abundance of beautiful, golden creama I'm in awe. There was no bitterness!!! After 8 months of roasting a lot has changed. I drink espresso and press coffee daily and my Bunn has dust on it. I've modded my poppers (split wired and bypassed the thermostat). now I'm eyeing pump machines. It's a slippery slope. Perhaps coffee roasting is my convertible as I have a mid life crisis. hummm.. Gregg
At 07:15 PM 8/29/2004 -0500, you wrote: <Snip> Yeah, it's hard to describe the difference but you can taste it. The zass brought about *the* single most improvement in our coffee. as you said wow.
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People here, with passion, talk about the Rocky and the Mazzer and the Solis Maestro grinders. My next grinder might be one of the pricey ones. But I'm sure happy with the $99 Capresso Infinity conical burr grinder. With the grinder set to the 5th finest grind, it makes a killer espresso in my cheapie Krups espresso machine. The improvement over the blade grinder was instantly noticeable. The blade grinder made the beans smell wonderful while they were being pulverized. The burr grinder keeps the aroma in the beans to come out in the drink. I just need some good recommendations for an espresso machine, in the price range up to, say, about $500. Any suggestions? Thanks.
For your given price range, in no particular order I'd suggest taking a strong look at: 1) Rancilio Silvia 2) Miss Silvia by Rancilio 3) Rancilio Miss Silvia 4) Silvia by Ranciliohttp://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.rancilio.shtmlor if you don't like Missy's classic clean lines 5) Gaggia Classichttp://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.gaggia.shtmlKona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm
miKe, great answer, but I think that your choice adds up to almost $2K ! I'm saving my pennies to buy one by Christmas # 2, & I think Tom is running a special throws in some roast & greens...you know where mine will be purchased. Unless I can get 1 in a thrift store for under $50., that is ;-) , some things are best, new.! BTW, miKe, if your ever in KS on I-70, I'd be happy to hand you the keys to my grill & my roaster's, anytime! On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:36:32 -0800, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip>
<Snip> price <Snip> Norm a $99 conical, compared to a 30 dollar flat burr is a nice step up. The Gusto is good little single boiler pump espresso machine. I have had a couple, and a Silvia, I now have a HX machine (Expobar Office Pulsar) nice machine and its a work horse if you have company over. The ability to pull shot after shot and maintain temp is nice, lots of steam for caps and you can do both at the same time if you like. It is just above your target by 200 and if on sale 100. For under or right at 500 the rancilio silvia is a nice machine. good luck in your quest. RK
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. My MDF arrived today and since my new Sylvia won't arrive 'til next = week, I used it grind for a brew in my old steam toy. I made caps for = my wife and I and though not great, there was a definite improvement = over the steam toy and cheap grinder combo. I actually got some decent = crema, which never happened before. I also got a clean dry puck instead = of sludge. Now I really can't wait until I get my real machine. Another Mike
Keep tinkering, Mike- you can vary the grind now, and affect the resistance of the puck to flow; therefore, the brew time and ultimate pressure of the steam; and therefore the temperature of the brew. I actually played with some slight rudimentary packing, although they say "do it Not", and the stuff I got out of it tasted better with a little crema. Cheers, Your day is coming- RayO, aka Opa! -- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Wichita WurliTzer
what is the best grinder for a limited budget
Zassenhaus - it's manual, great, and you buy them used on eBay Brett Zassman On 12/22/06, anthony mullendore wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com
Then, again, if your budget really does control and the Chancellor of the Exchequer has been narrow minded, the Thrift Store often has treasure. You could find a serviceable Mortar and Pestle. Keep looking! The Mortar and Pestle can do a nice job, but it's hard to control and it's an awful lot of work for any more than a single liter of coffee. For a few bucks, you might even find a burr grinder. It'll probably need parts, like New Burrs. There goes the budget already, and you just started spending. A blade mill really can do a very decent job of grinding if you sharpen the blade and learn how to use it. For the thousand nay sayers, they define themselves as not having a set of files to sharpen the blade. They have never done it. The lawn mower doesn't work too well with a dull blade either. Same solution. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! Illegitimus non Carborundum-
On 12/21/06, Brett Mason wrote: <Snip> With a word of caution... If you have tendonitis is your shoulders, wrists or elbows AND grind more than one pot a day or do not have children you can order to "Grind this for me, please", then an electric grinder may be better for you. Just my experience. Take care, Ann
What's the budget and what methods of brewing will you be doing? Which methods with you use most and least? bc On 12/22/06, an iconoclast wrote: <Snip>
Perhaps I missed it but I have not seen and comments on the Cuisinart grinder. I have one and thought it would be an upgrade. It seems to make more powder than I like to have. Comments? There is an old meat grinder type mill in the basement that was a "decorative" item given by a friend. Worth the trouble? I'll report. Good that the mention of sauerkraut stuck a cord. Probably one has to be "older" to appreciate it. Squeezing and rinsing will even redeem the grocery store stuff. Middle European recipes will state this procedure. Bernard
I have a kitchen aid and sausage grinder attachment. Theres no way it would work for coffee.
I don't know if it's the same model, but I got the one the Costco sells, (love that return policy!) and brought it back. This was way back, when I first started roasting, early last year. Hated it. Coffee just didn't taste right (but I was a newbie, then) and cleaning it seemed impossible. Lynne On Jan 15, 2007, at 4:12 AM, Bernard Gerrard wrote: <Snip>
Youre right it exists, but since its advertised as a grain mill, im guessing itll only work for press pot at best :ohttp://www.kitchenaid.com/catalog/product.jsp?src=Stand+Mixer+Accessories&cat8&prodg3
Yes, for wheat, but I don't think it would work for coffee. Julie = ----- Original Message ---- From: "True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)" To: homeroast Sent: Monday, Jan= uary 15, 2007 12:29:45 PM Subject: +RE: grinder Now here is a questi= on speaking of grinders... Has anybody ever used a kitchen-aide with a= grinder attachment? Dennis AKA FC1(SW) Dennis W. True Safety= Dept USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) FPO AE 09532-2830 HG/DB an= d Z&D roasting in the southern hemisphere "On station and on point 109 a= nd counting down..." Perhaps I missed it but I have not seen an= d comments on the Cuisinart grinder. I have one and thought it would be= an upgrade. It seems to make more powder than I like to have. Comment= s? There is an old meat grinder type mill in the basement that was a "d= ecorative" item given by a friend. Worth the trouble? I'll report. = Good that the mention of sauerkraut stuck a cord. Probably one has to = be "older" to appreciate it. Squeezing and rinsing will even redeem = the grocery store stuff. Middle European recipes will state this pro= cedure. Bernard ho= meroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homero=ast To change your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, u= nsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsetti=ngs homeroast mailing l= isthttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change y= our personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to =http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings
Now here is a question speaking of grinders... Has anybody ever used a kitchen-aide with a grinder attachment? Dennis AKA FC1(SW) Dennis W. True Safety Dept USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) FPO AE 09532-2830 HG/DB and Z&D roasting in the southern hemisphere "On station and on point 109 and counting down..." Perhaps I missed it but I have not seen and comments on the Cuisinart grinder. I have one and thought it would be an upgrade. It seems to make more powder than I like to have. Comments? There is an old meat grinder type mill in the basement that was a "decorative" item given by a friend. Worth the trouble? I'll report. Good that the mention of sauerkraut stuck a cord. Probably one has to be "older" to appreciate it. Squeezing and rinsing will even redeem the grocery store stuff. Middle European recipes will state this procedure. Bernard
The Zassenhaus grain mill reportedly works very well for espresso. Brian On 1/15/07, Leo Zick wrote: <Snip>
I have seen a coffee/nut grinding attachment at Bed bath and Beyond This was about 2 years ago or so... Not sure if they still have it. I have a kitchen aid and sausage grinder attachment. Theres no way it would work for coffee.
Gotcha! Thanks.. No web access to check my fading memory.... Youre right it exists, but since its advertised as a grain mill, im guessing itll only work for press pot at best :ohttp://www.kitchenaid.com/catalog/product.jsp?src=Stand+Mixer+Accessori=e s&ca t=158&prod=673
Hello all, I just lost my grinder last night. Not sure what happened, but a bean (which I roasted only an hour before) actually jammed and then de-threaded my rather inexpensive Cuisinart. As in - crunch, ugh, dead stop. Would someone recommend a grinder to replace it with? Buying online is easier - so links to the actual product would be appreciated! Cost? I don't know...maybe $100ish? While you are at it - feel free to recommend a good drip coffee maker! Would you mind responding to my email, as I have a hard time finding time to read the whole list. Although it's great conversation! All the best, Chris ctjones Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.com
Chris, GRINDER: If you liked the Cuisinart, another one is already in your price range. If you are doing drip only, the Solis Maestro will get you there, although you'll get fines in the grind, which means some bitter notes.... BUT I have to mention the Zassenhaus Knee ill as found on Sweet Maria's site. It's the bets value out there in new wills,and the product is incredibly good...l Everything is downhill until you get to the semi-commercial conical burr mills and above (Rocky and friends, $300+) DRIP BREWER: Tougher choice. You want brew temp first - but there are none out there in the cheap but good-temp range. Technivorm off Sweet Maria's again, but it's pricey. I love an electric cordless kettle, and a French Press (large size). I use that, and a Melitta CLarity, with amazing temp and a $19.99 purchase price - they can't be found anymore. In my basement is a new in box Presto Scandnavian for the same reason - once Clarity dies and I cannot fix it.... But no other cheapies out there are worth their salt. Have a nice French Press, and call me in the morning... Brett On 3/7/08, Chris Jones wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.comHomeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.com
Hi Chris, <Snip> I've had really good luck with a Breville BCG450XL Ikon Conical Burr Grinder for drip and French Press. I know it's not high end equipment, but it hasn't failed on me and seems to produce very even grinds.http://www.amazon.com/Breville-BCG450XL-Ikon-Conical-Grinder/dp/B000MDHH0Q<Snip> I use a Bunn home brewer for drip at home because I had a hard time finding a coffee maker locally that didn't produce a bitter cup. By reading and investigation I found that in most cheap coffee makers the water starts out cool and finally reaches acceptable temperatures towards the end of the brew cycle. The Bunn stores pre-heated water inside of it's reservoir ready for use when you start the brew. This way water is at brewing temperature all the way through the cycle. Below is a link to the hot plate model. I don't leave the carafe on the plate after brewing is finished, so the hot plate isn't a problem for me.