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Topic: N. Calif homeroasting list (10 msgs / 249 lines)
1) From: ginny
that it is reasonable that we get to know about you first.  If you want to be on
this list, start by contacting me:    jpawlan
and I will send you the details of what I need.
Still love my Gaggia I got from you. Wow, I did not know you from adam or eve...
Do we need photo ID, finger prints, education, roasting ability, monthly income statement, 
sex in case photo does not match the photo ID sent to you?
Do you have an online application I can fill out? I guess I want to know if I am worthy so I don't waste my time and yours!!!

2) From: Jeffrey Pawlan
A few years ago it was I who put together a fairly complete list of who lived
where, with their email addresses. After I put this on this S.M. listserver,
some people complained that I was causing them to be spammed as a result. I
stopped maintaining this international list owing to the complaints.
But I have been keeping a private unpublished list of the N. Calif homeroasters
and I am responsible for sending out the invitations for the gatherings. So if
you live or work in N. Calif and if you want to participate in homeroasting
gatherings in the future and you have not previously been contacted by me, then
you may wish to be added to this list for future events.
Since our gatherings are at private homes rather than public places, we feel
that it is reasonable that we get to know about you first.  If you want to be on
this list, start by contacting me:    jpawlan
and I will send you the details of what I need.
Jeffrey Pawlan
San Jose, CA

3) From: miKe mcKoffee
I'm with Ginny on this. Too bad some people who would have liked to attend 
didn't even know about it because they weren't on some exclusive private 
email list! Gee, the Pacific Northwest Gathering also meets in Private homes 
yet for whatever reason we haven't felt the need to screen List members 
prior to okaying their attendance. For example Bruce & Luce subscribed to 
the List only 7 days before PNWGIII yet knew about it and attended because 
it wasn't kept a secret rather openly communicated and open to all on List.
Seems to me the N. Calif affair wasn't a Sweet Maria's Gathering but some 
other exclusive email list by invitation/pre-screening get together...
Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmFrom: "ginny" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM

4) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
I kind of agree.  Jeffrey did contact me off list and very kindly
invited me, but I am very uneasy about giving out private information
to someone I had never met (as in "We know when you won't be home and
we now have your address").  I can also understand the reservations
about inviting strangers into the home ("Honey, where's the family
silver?").  Hopefully, the SF area folks will have an event in a
public place where everyone will feel more comfortable.
Perhaps it's just SF Bay Area paranoia?  Or perhaps we all think we're
rob-worthy?  Is it just a coastal thing?
I liked miKe's approach on his website:  here's me and my wife, here's
where we live, come over and have coffe & Q with us!  Much more
Roasting in an SC/TO
For a Drip/Moka/Presspot Brew
On 6/28/05, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:

5) From: Zara Haimo
I'd met Jeffrey twice before at the coffee gathering he hosted a year or so
ago and at PNWGII, but must admit I also balked when he asked for my address
without a clear reason why he needed it for the gathering in Berkeley.  If I
didn't know him already, I'm not sure how I would have responded.
I really wish this event had been posted on the list given how many people
would have attended if they had known about it (including Les whom I could
have picked up at the airport on my way to Berkeley).  In the future, the
best compromise may be to post events like on the list and then give the
address privately to those who rsvp.  I've now been to 2 PNWGs and 2 Bay
area events and have only met terrific people at each gathering, so if I
were to host an event, I wouldn't be too worried about some caffeine crazed
espresso drinker crashing the party.

6) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Scott_Kou=E9?=
Well to defend the Bay Area, I didn't really have any problem with it?  
Maybe it's because on another group people got all paranoid about there 
"private" info and two of demoed how two totally non computer geeks 
could get virtually all that info (and sometimes a whole lot more) in 
less than a few hours on the internet.  It was scary how easy it was to 
get everyones address, phone, sometimes SS# marriage history, school 
history, photos etc.  So I have sort of given up the illusion that this 
info is "safe" even if it's not being sold in India.
Also I find it a bit of a double standard that we should not want any 
of our info to go privately to a list member but that we would expect 
the host to say here's my address come on down and put that in public.  
If it were a meeting in a public place I would agree but in a private 
home I don't.
Ginny, are you offering sex to strangers, AGAIN!
On Jun 28, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Brent - SC/TO Roasting wrote:

7) From: John Abbott
On 6/28/05, ginny  wrote:
Adam is the one with the apple, Eve is the one giving all the orders :o)
Do we need photo ID, finger prints, education, roasting ability, monthly 
Are there REALLY pictures of Ginny? I mean without numbers? I think you are=
a figment of Mr McGinness' imagination. He invented you for PNWG-1 :o)
Do you have an online application I can fill out? I guess I want to know if=
Hey Gin, You can come to the Texas gathering - I'll certify you off-line 
John - loving life in any old lane

8) From: Sue
On 6/28/05, Jeffrey Pawlan  wrote: 
  Sorry you had to stop that list Jeffre!y
* http://web.triton.net/t/tenclay/roasters/roasters.htm Check it out, it's really neat. Thanks Tim! 

9) From: Barbara Greenspon
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
I hadn't known about Tim's site which I just checked out and signed up 
for.  Don't know if it was publicized and I missed it or what.  It is 
really well done, and it should help us find each other if people check 
it out.
Thanks, Tim  -- and Sue, too, for pointing it out.
Sue wrote:

10) From: Phil Ferrante-Roseberry
My experience was much the same as Brent's. I'm not saying anything 
negative about Jeffrey, simply that I felt uneasy with the off-list 
request for my address. It sounds like I'm not alone.
I'm traveling a bunch this summer, but starting in September I'd be 
happy to host a gathering at my place near downtown Oakland. I live 
in a community (Swan's Market Cohousing:http://www.swansway.com)
that has a large common area I can reserve, including a serious 
kitchen and a dining room that seats 30.
At 3:07 PM -0700 6/28/05, Brent - SC/TO Roasting wrote:

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