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Topic: 'Pod' coffee brewer (33 msgs / 1209 lines)
1) From: Marc
My wife is interested in a Pod brewer for work - it's fast, clean and easy.
But do any of them make good coffee?
I read someone's post about filling pods with homeroast - I can try that.
Anyone have experience and/or references and/or regrets about particular
brands and models?
Thanks,
Marc

2) From: Tara Kollas
Hi, Marc. My mom had a melitta pod brewer that died on her after a few
months - I gave her a Bunn pod brewer I had and she loves it. I think it ha=
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the best "range" in that it can make really hot water really fast and can
brew from 4-12 ounces, depending on the setting - you just double the numbe=
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of pods if brewing a larger cup. I liked it (didn't use my own coffee), but
they banned appliances from the office. Tried hiding it for a while and the=
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just decided to brew from home and bring in a carafe. The Bunn is expensive
- I believe about 3 times what you'd pay for one of the others, but my mom
is much happier with it than she was with the melitta.
Tara
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3) From: John Blumel
On Oct 3, 2005, at 11:45 am, Tara Kollas wrote:
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You might also check out the Keurig brewers, which use little plastic  
"cups" of coffee, so home roast would not be an option. I would look  
at what coffees are available and how they are packaged, in addition  
to the feasibility of using home roast.
John Blumel

4) From: Gary Townsend
Marc wrote on Mon, 03 October 2005 08:08
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I have the senseo pod brewer and I was not too happy with the available coffee choices. I bought a pod adapter awhile back, thru eBay and it was a pain to reload, wash and clean the all plastic *pod*. Since I really liked the taste of my homeroast, I decided to spend more time with a vacpot.
I tried the homemade pods, and it just seemed to be more trouble than it was worth. 
I was cruising thru Walmart the other day & the Presto company is marketing a replacable Pod adapter that uses a filter disc and you can load it with homeroast. Price was around $10. and might be worth looking into. I was considering getting it, and giving it a try. It might be a good compromise for a personal, at work type machine. Home-roasted coffee will taste better than the pre-packaged pods that are way over-priced for mediocre coffee results. But it's more of a convienence machine catering to the needs of people in a rush, that want a better cup of coffee, than the *Foalturds* crowds... x(

5) From: Marc
John,
I believe those are called k-cups, appropriately enough; I've seen a lot
more variety in the pod type than the k-type - just do a search on
Froogle...
-Marc
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6) From: Marc
Gary,
There appear to be a lot of coffee choices on the web for pods. I seemed to
have narrowed the choice down to the Senseo or the Bunn - as far as I can
tell the Senseo uses a pressure system (low pressure, not like expresso) an=
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the Bunn uses a non-pressured system.
The pressure system accounts for the 'crema'-like foam that the Senseo
creates, but I've seem some comments that the water temperature is a little
low on.
Now my wife isn't as much of a coffee snob as I am but still I'd like to ge=
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her the best, reasonably priced setup for her.
Oh, what to buy...what to buy...
-Marc
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7) From: Gary Townsend
Marc,
Sure, you can buy pods on the web! If you factor in the shipping, you could have scored a pound of (green) Kona, for about the same price ! 
That's pretty much why I don't buy pods for my Livia 90S, sure, I can get them, but the quality of the espresso shots is also dependent on the degree of freshness of the coffee itself. You can get some high quality nitrogen flushed pods, but the cost of those convieniences is even higher than the competitively available pods. I'd rather have *fresh* homeroast of high quality beans and have to clean my machine a little more, than to submit to the pod people (who *think* they are drinking the good stuff)  :uhoh:  And you know they are not cleaning out thier machines as much as they should (if at all) as they are probably *too busy* anyway.
If you can find a pod replacement that can utilize homeroasted coffee, then you will probably be better off. Otherwise, a Chemex or a French Press is a good choice for an *office* environment. Armed with an inexpensive blade grinder ( like the bodum) and a hot water kettle you won't suffer a whole lot during those *bad*  x( days at work. Unless you can convince the boss that a *real* espresso machine would increase productivity while fostering a much better working environment. Or something along those lines... :lol: 
Gary

8) From: Robert Avery
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Mark .... I have a Senseo that I bought last year ... It's not to bad .. =
but can't be compared with a real espresso or latte machine. You get =
what you pay for in a sense. Since last year when I purchase the Senseo =
I have seen the prices drop on those like a rock. I have seen them on =
sale at a place like Lowes for as little as $25. dollars. The hook on =
this product is the pods. Believe me ... you will have to mortgage your =
house to pay for your coffee habit after using it for a while. I =
couldn't make a decent cup of coffee without using the 2 pod holder. It =
adds up fast. I figured out my habit ... and came to reason that I could =
have more fun and a lot ........lot better coffee for less money with a =
real coffee machine. One year later ... now roast, grind and prepare my =
brew in an La Speciali S1 ... What a trip it has been ... but coffee to =
die for ... Good luck, Bob

9) From: Marc
Gary,
In many ways I agree but in my wife's situation, these are not options. She
has very little time between classes and no interest in having to clean-up
too much - she would rather buy a cup next door (actually the coffee is not
too bad, but it adds up) or just not have coffee at all. I know it's not
home roast and that's not the goal - the goal is a decent cup of coffee,
quickly and easily.
(I know we all have different definitions of 'decent cup of coffee' but som=
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of the coffee I have tasted from these one-cups machines has been what I
would call decent.
With shipping, pods seem to be about 80-85 cents for a 10gram pod.
-Marc
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10) From: Marc
Robert,
I've seen the Senseo/Douwe Egberts pods at 64/$18 which, if using 2 at a
time, is about 56 cents/cup. When the only real option for my wife is to bu=
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at a local pub ($2/cup I think) then this would be a distinct savings.
Remember I'm not comparing it to home roast expresso, french press, vac pot=
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moka pot, etc. since she wouldn't be doing any of these.
So, did the Senseo brew hot enough - that's my main concern? Also the fake
crema from the Senseo - was it a plus or minus?
Thanks,
Marc
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11) From: Sandy Andina
Senseo makes decent cafe creme if you use your own coffee in a  
refillable plastic pod (Eco-Pad is the one I use, bought on eBay). My  
family uses it for a quick cuppa, not wanting to learn how to make an  
Americano on the real machine.
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12) From: Sandy Andina
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First of all. if you are going to use prepacked pods, better get used  
to doubling up on them--single pods don't work all that well even at  
the single cup setting.  Second, the coffee is not quite as hot as a  
well-made Americano and does tend to cool off rather quickly. Third,  
the fake crema dissipates very quickly.
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First of all. if you are going =
to use prepacked pods, better get used to doubling up on them--single =
pods don't work all that well even at the single cup setting.  Second, =
the coffee is not quite as hot as a well-made Americano and does tend to =
cool off rather quickly. Third, the fake crema dissipates very =
quickly.
On Oct 3, 2005, at 5:06 PM, Marc wrote:
Robert, = I've seen the Senseo/Douwe = Egberts pods at 64/$18 which, if using 2 at a time, is about 56 = cents/cup. When the only real option for my wife is to buy at a local = pub ($2/cup I think) then this would be a distinct savings. Remember I'm = not comparing it to home roast expresso, french press, vac pot, moka = pot, etc. since she wouldn't be doing any of these. So, did the = Senseo brew hot enough - that's my main concern? Also the fake crema = from the Senseo - was it a plus or minus? Thanks, Marc = On 10/3/05, Robert Avery <raverys12> = wrote: Mark .... I have a Senseo that I bought last year ... = It's not to bad .. but can't be compared with a real espresso or latte = machine. You get what you pay for in a sense. Since last year when I = purchase the Senseo I have seen the prices drop on those like a rock. I = have seen them on sale at a place like Lowes for as little as $25. = dollars. The hook on this product is the pods. Believe me .. you will = have to mortgage your house to pay for your coffee habit after using it = for a while. I couldn't make a decent cup of coffee without using the 2 = pod holder. It adds up fast. I figured out my habit ... and came to = reason that I could have more fun and a lot ........lot better coffee = for less money with a real coffee machine. One year later ... now = roast, grind and prepare my brew in an La Speciali S1 ... What a trip it = has been ... but coffee to die for ... Good luck, Bob

13) From: Marc
Sandy,
Thanks..
I was planning on using 2 - 7 gram pods (my quick cost estimate of $0.56/cu=
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was for 2 pods), I was also going to try some of the 10 gram pods available
from others. I don't really care about the fake crema - it's the temp that
concerns me. 'Not quite as hot' sounds like it's close but not optimal (if
optimal can be used with a coffee brewer like this, especially when using
pre-packed pods!!). I may be getting too wrapped up in the details.
-Marc
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14) From: Robert Avery
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Ya ... I guess you could say it was hot enough ... it has to get the =
heat up there to make it work ... and honestly ... I was quite surprised =
at how good a job it really does. My wife enjoyed it. She could handle =
the simplicity better than with the espresso machine. She liked the =
coffee ... Of course she also liked all the different flavors .... I =
think more than the coffee .. who knows. It's cheap enough to get your =
feet wet and decide if you want to move on. Like I said the price is =
right on the machines now. Later, Bob

15) From: Robert Avery
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I didn't particularly care for the plastic pod replacement. Mark ... If =
you do decide to get the machine and want one of the plastic replacement =
pods ... let me know and it's yours. I only used it once or twice and =
paid a good buck for it ... first kid on the block syndrome ... I will =
be leaving for Florida next week and I can send it from there. Later, =
Bob    Message ----- 
  From: Sandy Andina 
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  Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: +'Pod' coffee brewer
  Senseo makes decent cafe creme if you use your own coffee in a  
  refillable plastic pod (Eco-Pad is the one I use, bought on eBay). My  =
  family uses it for a quick cuppa, not wanting to learn how to make an  =
  Americano on the real machine.
  On Oct 3, 2005, at 11:08 AM, Marc wrote:
  > My wife is interested in a Pod brewer for work - it's fast, clean  
  > and easy. But do any of them make good coffee?
  >
  > I read someone's post about filling pods with homeroast  - I can  
  > try that.
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  > Anyone have experience and/or references and/or regrets about  
  > particular brands and models?
  >
  > Thanks,
  > Marc
  Sandy
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16) From: Marc
Bob,
Thanks, I think I'll take the pluge and give it a try.
-Marc
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17) From: Stephen Bardwell
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Pod machines are very cheap in South Africa, and pods very expensive. =
This could be something for me! I am very interested in  filling pods =
with home roast,  I missed that post, is there somewhere I can get it or =
does anyone have an opinion or experience with this and the equipment =
required to do it.
Thanks Stephen
South Africa

18) From: Stephen Bardwell
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Pod machines are very cheap in South Africa, and pods very expensive. =
This could be something for me! I am very interested in  filling pods =
with home roast,  I missed that post, is there somewhere I can get it or =
does anyone have an opinion or experience with this and the equipment =
required to do it.
Thanks Stephen
South Africa

19) From: Sandy Andina
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Pod machines are like Barbie Dolls (as are inkjet printers): in my  
youth, the dolls alone were three bucks but the endless outfits and  
accessories were an arm and a leg.  I learned to knit and sew by  
"rolling my own" doll clothes--which is analagous to using my own  
coffee in a refillable pod.
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Pod machines are like Barbie =
Dolls (as are inkjet printers): in my youth, the dolls alone were three =
bucks but the endless outfits and accessories were an arm and a leg.  =
I learned to knit and sew by "rolling my own" doll clothes--which is =
analagous to using my own coffee in a refillable pod.
On =
Oct 4, 2005, at 5:12 PM, Stephen Bardwell wrote:
Pod machines are very = cheap in South Africa, and pods very expensive. This could be something = for me! I am very interested in  filling pods with home roast,  I = missed that post, is there somewhere I can get it or does anyone have an = opinion or experience with this and the equipment required to do = it. South Africa

20) From: Marc
Stephen,
If your are interested in the refillable pods, Robert AVery (in this post)
said he has one to sell. Alternatively, go to ebay and search for 'ecopad' =
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2 refillable pods for about $13 shipped in the US. I don't have any
experience with them.
-Marc
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21) From: Gary Townsend
I have a Senseo that I received as a gift last year around Christmas-time.
I bought a few bags of the pre-packaged branded pods, and learned to double
them up, and use the single shot mode. I was not impressed with the
prepackaged coffee (weak and stale by my standards) I did like the idea of
the machine using a little pressure to extract the coffee. As far as water
temp goes, I don't know, I never measured it.
I ordered the eco-pod system and liked the idea of using my own homeroast
with the Senseo machine. I was able to make a drinkable cup of coffee with
it, but it was not spectacular. I think that it was messy to use, I spilled
coffee grounds every time I *loaded* the pods and made a mess during clean
up.
At the same time, I picked up a pair of Mellita Clarity's for $20. a pop,
with free shipping. They sold out very quickly. I modified mine (improved
shower head) and was very happy with it until the very thin glass on the
carafe broke a month later. This happened on both machines within a year,
and the 1st one I gave to a good home in TX. The second is on my shelf in
the garage awaiting a replacement carafe.
I thought about the Senseo machine after discovering that Presto (sold at
Walmart) makes a better looking replaceable pod, and it's priced at $10. It
uses little disc filters, that sell for $2 per 100. I think I'll buy it and
test it out just because it's there ;-) Until then, I'll have to make due
with my vac pot's and Chemex and as far as taste goes, they are hard to
beat.
Gary

22) From: David Yeager
At 08:26 AM 10/5/2005, you wrote:
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My $.02 worth:
I have used the EcoPad and found that it works quite well.  I 
modified it by trimming 1/16 inch off of a tab on the bottom of it so 
it would fit better into the well.  (I guess you'd have to see one to 
know what I'm talking about.)  The amount of coffee it held, however, 
was only equal to bit more than a single pod.
The problem with the Senseo, IMHO, is that it makes weak coffee -- 
tasty, but watery.  If you watch the coffee flowing out as it is 
extracted, it "blondes" out very early and get very watery.  I found 
that if I thought of it like espresso and intercepted only the first 
two ounces or so, then it made a very tasty demitasse.
But it was a lot of work for that little return, and so the Senseo 
and EcoPads got retired to the back of the coffee toys shelf.
David Y
Atlanta

23) From: Gene Smith
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with free shipping. They sold out very quickly. I modified mine 
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shower head) and was very happy with it until the very thin glass 
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carafe broke a month later. This happened on both machines within a 
year,
and the 1st one I gave to a good home in TX. The second is on my 
shelf in
the garage awaiting a replacement carafe.
The home in Texas is mine and I am just now enjoying my second cup 
of excellent coffee from it, thanks to Gary's generosity. 
Interestingly, the crack in the carafe has not increased in months 
of use, so I still haven't gotten around to replacing it!
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

24) From: Gary Townsend
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 Really!
I was not expecting the cracked carafe to survive the journey intact!
 As a result of 'drip pot madness' I've managed to replace 5 different
machine's within a year. I've broken 2 Clarity's, sold a Delonghi Nabucco,
and a couple of Krups machines that just were not up to snuff.
 A few years ago, when I was living in Germany, my family bought me a reall=
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nice machine for Christmas 1 year. Germany cafe's serve a strong tasty cup
of coffee, that I fell in love with. I frequently stopped in to enjoy a
couple cups of coffee 4 to 5 times a week.
I haven't the heart to sell the machine, a Krups CaffeCentro Model 874, so
that's what we are using for drip coffee these mornings.
 As a result, I mainly brew via my Yama 20 oz vac pot, once a day. That's
only 2 of *my size* mugs of coffee.
 Gary

25) From: Robert Avery
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Correction ... I don't have any refillable to sell ..... I will give =
them to him ... after I received them and realized what you get for 13 =
bucks ... there is now way I could charge someone for them and have a =
clean conscience. If they cost them two cents apiece to make them I =
would be amazed. Like I said .. give me a couple of weeks till I get =
down to Florida and I'll ship them to ya .... later, Bob

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Sandy,
My humble recommendation would have been to get a complete outfit, not just
"an arm and a leg." Might be they didn't fit too well?
Cheers from the ersatz quilter -RayO, aka Opa!
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27) From: Marc
Gary and all,
Thanks for all the helpful info ... my wife and I decided to try the Bunn M=
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Cafe. As long as it makes as good (if not better) coffee then the corner
store she'll be satisfied. As much s I hate to do it, I stop in at Walmart
and check out their pods.
-Marc
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28) From: Robert Avery
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Mark ... they are basically the same machine ... she'll have fun with it =
.. who knows .. this could lead to something big if you get her =
hooked... drop me a line in a couple of weeks and I'll send you the =
holders for regular coffee. You can experiment with that .. my email is =
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the 17th so anytime after that. Good luck, Bob

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30) From: Marc
Robert,
Thanks I'll send you an email after the 17th.
BTW, when you say "they are basically the same machine" - what 2 machines
are you refering to - I'm a little confused as it looks like we were talkin=
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about the Senseo and the Bunn. The Senseo is about $60( +/-?) and uses a
low-pressurized pod brewing method. The Bunn is $200 and does not use a low
pressure brewing method. Also I have seen comments that the Senseo leaks
sometimes.
I haven't actually placed the order yet so if I'm going in the wrong
direction this is time for me to know that...
Thanks,
Marc
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31) From: Stephen Bardwell
Thank you
Looks like it was thought up right here in SA, a truly simple system
Stephen

32) From: Tara Kollas
Has anyone else seen the commercial for the new Folger's cappuccino pods?
They have a special ingredient to make them creamy. It's like putting
powdered milk in you filter with the coffee. How gross is that!
Tara
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33) From:
Tom had an exasperated comment on the number of Senseos being floated over
here from PRC. On that basis, you shouldn't encounter reluctance on the par=
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of a seller to provide a warranty on the performance of the machine.
If he won't warrant the machine in writing, you won't provide any legal
tender for your part. That should make your interest pretty clear. If he's
not forthcoming, he doesn't think much of the machine and you'll be
forthgoing, with all of your legal tender.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Quote from W. Edwards Deming: Hold everybody accountable? Ridiculous!


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