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Topic: Tom and Maria are tired! (10 msgs / 348 lines)
1) From: Les
A big thank you to Tom and Maria for getting the orders out before
Christmas!  For all who have continued all of the off-topic stuff, which I
find interesting by the way, lets take it off list and point the flames at
each other in private.  This is a coffee list one I like very much as so
many broad topics of coffee are discussed.  Brew methods, roast methods,
various blends and varietals are all discussed.  I think we all enjoy the
personal touches too.  However, in respect to our host and hostess, lets
show some discretion in the OT and flaming.  Remember we have a lot of
newbies who look to us for help roasting coffee beans not each
other!   Isn't is wonderful that we do live in a country where we can have
open disagreements.  I don't think Tom would have any problem with an all
out food fight here about whether Kona is better than JBM or a Brazil is
better than a Sumatra DP coffee.
Les

2) From: mIke mcKoffee
It's official, Les is not only a Sweet Maria's shill but the Sweet Maria's
List moderator. (no wonder he always knows about the 'best' greens;-)
As a moderator it is anything but moderate to even suggest "Kona is better
than JBM or a Brazil is better than a Sumatra DP coffee"! Apples and oranges
of course. Though that is better than suggesting "JBM is better than
Kona";-) 
BTW, Is JBM Worth the Price? (re-run topic of 4 years ago or so;-)
I'd try for a better response but dinner is ready.
miKe
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Les
	Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:59 PM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: +Tom and Maria are tired!
	
	A big thank you to Tom and Maria for getting the orders out before
Christmas!  For all who have continued all of the off-topic stuff, which I
find interesting by the way, lets take it off list and point the flames at
each other in private.  This is a coffee list one I like very much as so
many broad topics of coffee are discussed.  Brew methods, roast methods,
various blends and varietals are all discussed.  I think we all enjoy the
personal touches too.  However, in respect to our host and hostess, lets
show some discretion in the OT and flaming.  Remember we have a lot of
newbies who look to us for help roasting coffee beans not each other!
Isn't is wonderful that we do live in a country where we can have open
disagreements.  I don't think Tom would have any problem with an all out
food fight here about whether Kona is better than JBM or a Brazil is better
than a Sumatra DP coffee. 
	 
	Les

3) From: Les
Mike,
How about the best Kona comes from Panama!  However, that KBM Peaberry I ha=
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this morning Krups Moka Pot brewed is one of the best cups of smooth comple=
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coffee I have  had in a long time!
Les
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4) From: Aaron
Is JBM worth the price.
for me, I have to say NO.
There is nothing special really about it.  Nothing that super stands out 
and makes you say, oh yeah this is JBM!
Kona has that, JBM does not.  yes it has it's little subtleties but 
nothing outstanding.   this is just my opinion, please flame away but 
not too hot, .. don't wanna burn my beans now do we :)
Aaron

5) From: mIke mcKoffee
Yeah, that's it, confuse the issue with Kona Peaberry grown from Jamaica
Blue Mountain seedstock!-)
miKe
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Les
	Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:53 PM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: Re: +Tom and Maria are tired!
	
	Mike,
	How about the best Kona comes from Panama!  However, that KBM
Peaberry I had this morning Krups Moka Pot brewed is one of the best cups of
smooth complex coffee I have  had in a long time!
	 
	Les
	
	On 12/21/05, mIke mcKoffee  wrote: 
		It's official, Les is not only a Sweet Maria's shill but the
Sweet Maria's
		List moderator. (no wonder he always knows about the 'best'
greens;-) 
		
		As a moderator it is anything but moderate to even suggest
"Kona is better
		than JBM or a Brazil is better than a Sumatra DP coffee"!
Apples and oranges
		of course. Though that is better than suggesting "JBM is
better than 
		Kona";-)
		
		BTW, Is JBM Worth the Price? (re-run topic of 4 years ago or
so;-)
		
		I'd try for a better response but dinner is ready.
		
		miKe
		
		       From: homeroast-admin
		[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of
Les 
		       Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:59 PM
		       To: homeroast
		       Subject: +Tom and Maria are tired!
		
		       A big thank you to Tom and Maria for getting the
orders out before 
		Christmas!  For all who have continued all of the off-topic
stuff, which I
		find interesting by the way, lets take it off list and point
the flames at
		each other in private.  This is a coffee list one I like
very much as so 
		many broad topics of coffee are discussed.  Brew methods,
roast methods,
		various blends and varietals are all discussed.  I think we
all enjoy the
		personal touches too.  However, in respect to our host and
hostess, lets 
		show some discretion in the OT and flaming.  Remember we
have a lot of
		newbies who look to us for help roasting coffee beans not
each other!
		Isn't is wonderful that we do live in a country where we can
have open 
		disagreements.  I don't think Tom would have any problem
with an all out
		food fight here about whether Kona is better than JBM or a
Brazil is better
		than a Sumatra DP coffee.
		
		       Les

6) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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There's going to be very little of it for the new season too, which 
means that they start relaxing milling standards and letting shabbier 
beans into the better grades. That happened the years I didn't buy it 
('97-'00) Then things seemed to get better. I am worried '06 will be 
a year without JBM - well, not worried. If it's not good, we're not 
missing anything. But we'll still get all the "where's JBM" emails.
Tom
--
                   "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters"
            Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting  -  Tom & Maria
                      http://www.sweetmarias.com                Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com
     Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA
             phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com

7) From: Sandy Andina
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Depends what price you're talking about--SM's for greens or retail  
for roasted. Definitely not the latter. As to the former, how much  
are you willing to pay for perfectly balanced coffee, in which no  
single note predominates (what Mark Prince has called "the poster  
child for coffee")? To some, not even as much as the green price-- 
some people, especially coffee-hounds like us, drink and roast in  
order to appreciate different varietal characteristics, of which JBM  
has none. But I keep some around for friends and family who really  
like coffee, but who don't necessarily want to have their palates  
expanded.  A friend of mine once described JBM as tasting "real  
brown," which I suppose is another way of saying what Prince said.   
Personally, I know that there are less expensive (though still  
pricey) coffees that can approximate the same profile:  PR Yauco  
Selecto, El Salvador COE Pacamaral, Aussie Mt. Top come to mind--none  
a steal but all a fraction of JBM's cost.  When I run out of JBM, I  
will offer them to friends. Right now, I am enjoying them in-house  
and saving the JBM for gifts because that's what folks who want  
better than *$ or FoalTurds but who are not yet conoisseurs recognize.
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Depends what price you're =
talking about--SM's for greens or retail for roasted. Definitely not the =
latter. As to the former, how much are you willing to pay for perfectly =
balanced coffee, in which no single note predominates (what Mark Prince =
has called "the poster child for coffee")? To some, not even as much as =
the green price--some people, especially coffee-hounds like us, drink =
and roast in order to appreciate different varietal characteristics, of =
which JBM has none. But I keep some around for friends and family who =
really like coffee, but who don't necessarily want to have their palates =
expanded.  A friend of mine once described JBM as tasting "real =
brown," which I suppose is another way of saying what Prince said.  =
Personally, I know that there are less expensive (though still pricey) =
coffees that can approximate the same profile:  PR Yauco Selecto, El =
Salvador COE Pacamaral, Aussie Mt. Top come to mind--none a steal but =
all a fraction of JBM's cost.  When I run out of JBM, I will offer =
them to friends. Right now, I am enjoying them in-house and saving the =
JBM for gifts because that's what folks who want better than *$ or =
FoalTurds but who are not yet conoisseurs recognize.
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21, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Aaron wrote:

Is JBM worth the = price.

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8) From: Darliene Stanhope
GROAN!!  My coffee buddies really enjoy the JBM as do I on Saturday and
Sunday mornings when I can relax.  It is bland and not as complex as some o=
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my other favorites.  There are just days when I want that perfect balance
and smoothness.  I only have 1/2 lb left.  Guess I'll be saving that for
very special occasions then.  :)
On 12/21/05, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee 
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9) From: javafool
Les,
Now that really hurts. The KBM Peaberry is near the top of my list of =
all
time favorites and I have none. I didn't give it away, I roasted and =
drank
it all. Just me, all by myself. I am, however, enjoying a roast of =
Brazil
Yellow Bourbon which is also unavailable, I think.
Best of luck with your moderation duties. Tom could not have made a =
better
choice! One heck of a time to start that job :(
Terry

10) From: mIke mcKoffee
Some of the last of my KBM PB was part of the price I paid for my new Koa
Thor tamper;-)Getting that from Rita when we visited was indeed quite a
unique rare of the rare score! I'll give her a call and see if she's gleened
any from this year's KBM crop.
miKe
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