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Topic: A Non-Traditional offering (73 msgs / 1773 lines)
1) From: Douglas Strait
Non-Traditional because eventually you will be asked to return the 
item.
Here's the deal. I am strictly a hot air roaster and do not see this 
changing anytime soon. I roast in a Wear Ever 1400W pumper modified to 
enable independent and variable control over heat and fan speed. This 
is implemented by use of power electronics mounted in the popper 
housing itself. This provides the control of a setup using separate 
variacs on the heater and fan without the added bulk and weight of the 
variacs.
To have a ready backup anticipating the day that my primary unit wears 
out, I recently built a replica of my primary unit. After running a 
half dozen or so tests roasts through it, I have now assigned it to 
standby duty. Realistically, I realize it may not be called upon for 
years since these 1400W Wear Ever Pumpers are very solidly built. I 
have decided that my standby unit would be put to better use allowing 
someone else to explore a new avenue of roasting by having use of a 
fully "Hot-rodded" popper. I am offering this unit to any list member 
in good standing with the understanding that it will eventually be 
returned at the sooner of: my primary unit fails in a fashion that is 
not readily repairable [unlikely IMO], your interest in using this 
unit has passed, or 6 months has passed.
Basic specs of unit
Batch size range: 80-280g [3-10 oz]
Instrumentation: Permanently installed type K T/C [I will supply the 
readout instrument]
Power: 120 VAC
Caveats.
I am strictly an out of doors roaster so no provision has been made 
for chaff collection.
The available power at my roasting location tends to run in the 
118-120V range loaded. I therefore have made no modifications to 
accommodate low line voltage. As a consequence, if your available 
power runs much under 115V loaded, you may be limited a bit on the 
maximum batch size range especially at lower ambient temps [below 
40F].
If you are interested in participating, post to the list. In a week or 
so I'll put the names in the hat and make a selection. I don't know 
the level of interest in this [if any]. If heavily subscribed, perhaps 
we can agree to shorten the interval to 3 or 4 months and give several 
folks a turn.
Doug

2) From: Scott Marquardt
Sounds like a great deal for someone. I'm a fan of that unit as well, and
since I have one already I'd only ask whether you've published your mods in
any way. I for one would like to be rid of my variac, which is only potent
enough for modding the air. Controlling heat and air both electronically
would be wonderful.
- Scott

3) From: Michael Dhabolt
Douglas,
I agree with Scott, impressive specs.  I would also be interested in
seeing the nuts and bolts of your electronics mods.
Mike (just plain)

4) From: Gary Townsend
Douglas Strait wrote:
Here's the deal. I am strictly a hot air roaster and do not see this
changing anytime soon. I roast in a Wear Ever 1400W pumper modified toenabl=
e
independent and variable control over heat and fan speed. This is
implemented by use of power electronics mounted in the popper housing
itself. This provides the control of a setup using separate variacs on the
heater and fan without the added bulk and weight of the variacs.
Nice offer, Doug!
I am real curious on how you control the heater and the fan without a
variac. I've collected a 1/2 dozen 1400 w Pumpers, and I realized the
potential that they had. Until now, I just put them away, as I'm using a
couple of tweaked P1's, but no electronic boosters or controllers.
What sort of mods did you do to yours?
Would you post pics of it at homeroasters  ?
Basic specs of unit: Batch size range: 80-280g [3-10 oz]
Instrumentation: Permanently installed type K T/C [I will supply the read
out instrument]
Power: 120 VAC

5) From: Aaron
I would be interested in using this unit and also seeing how you did it 
so that maybe I can put one together myself here.
aaron

6) From: Larry Greenwald
Doug,
I would love to try out your machine.  Right now I am using a West Bend
Hot Air Popcorn Popper that can only handle 80-90g at a time.
Regards,
Larry
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 12:47 -0500, Douglas Strait wrote:
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7) From: mIke mcKoffee
Great offer Doug.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
 
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8) From: Douglas Strait
@ Scott and Mike
Scott M wrote:
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Scott, not published anywhere. I must be among the last 7 people on 
the planet that does not own a digital camera. I gather from your 
postings that you are technically savvy. The circuitry is pretty 
simple, especially the heater control side which can be implemented 
with only four electrical components. Only a few $ of components 
involved. A pretty knob for the pot is perhaps the most expensive 
item. I'd be happy to scan and send you a schematic off list if you 
are interested.
Great video, BTW!
Michael Dhabolt wrote:
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It's all 4-40 Mike  ;-)
See comment above about no camera. What I would be happy to do is to 
ship it to you. You could have your way with it then reassemble it and 
forward it to the recipient that gets selected by drawing.
Doug

9) From: Douglas Strait
Gary Townsend wrote:
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What sort of mods did you do to yours?
Would you post pics <
Sorry, I don't have a camera. I'll paint a visual. It looks pretty 
much stock with the following exceptions. Right above the power switch 
in the area with the "Popcorn Pumper" label there are two knobs which 
control heat and fan. Between the knobs is a 3 position toggle switch 
selecting OFF, Fan Only, and Fan plus Heat. On the right side of the 
popper on the sloping white portion of the housing is a male 
thermocouple connector. A T/C extension cable is plugged to the 
connector to transmit the T/C signal to the readout device. The 
plastic chute has been removed and a tin can chimney extension used in 
its place.
The fan circuitry consists of full wave rectification of the 120VAC 
input followed by filtration with 220uF of capacitance. This gets me 
about 160VDC to work with. I then pulse width modulate [PWM] this DC 
to control the fan speed. My PWM circuit is designed around a CMOS 
version of the 555 type timer IC. My resulting duty cycle of the PWM 
is adjustable through a range of about 52 to 99%.
The heater side control is very simple. It uses a Triac to control 
power by means of adjusting the point in the AC input waveform that it 
turns on. This is the same technology as a lamp dimmer differing only 
by use of a higher rated component to handle the full heater load.
The only modification other than those necessary to mount the 
electronics and T/C is that I widened selected slots of the 16 inlet 
to roast chamber slots. I had found through previous investigation 
that the temperature of the air varies considerably from slot to slot. 
By widening certain slots it is possible to reduce the temperature 
variation from slot to slot. If this were a Hot Rod engine you could 
say that it has been "Ported and Polished" ;-)
Doug

10) From: Gary Townsend
Doug,
Great post! I understand about half of it!
I have no fear of working with electricity, I just don't have the knowledge
that you guys have.
I am willing to learn, and that's another aspect about home-roasting that
appeals to me!
Gary

11) From: Douglas Strait
So far the folks that want their names in the hat are:
Aaron
Larry Greenwald
Robert Yoder
Brian K [responded off list]
I'll hold this open through HR Digest #4040 since I only read this 
list in digest form. If I missed anyone or if anyone else wants in on 
this, post interest by Digest #4040.
If there is no objection, let's shorten the interval to 4 months and I 
will draw two names. If anyone objects, we can leave it at 6 months 
and I'll draw a single name.
Doug

12) From: Gerald and Beth Newsom
Doug, I'd like my name to be put in the hat, too.  I've just completed my
first roast using a wok and it went so well that I may continue using that
method.  Still, it would be very interesting to see what a "hot-rodded"
popper can do, not to mention seeing what you've done to improve your
control over the heat and the fan speed.
Appreciating your generous offer,
Gerald
.

13) From: Jim Sheets
I sent a response a while back to add me to the list, if it's not too
late...
Regards,
Jim

14) From: Brian Kamnetz
Sounds good to me, Doug.
Brian
On 1/31/06, Douglas Strait  wrote:
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15) From: Douglas Strait
The hat now contains
Aaron
Larry Greenwald
Robert Yoder
Brian K [responded off list]
Gerald Newsom
Jim Sheets
Plus anyone posting their interest in Digest #4040
Two names will be drawn for possession of up to 4 months each.
Doug

16) From: Douglas Strait
Congrats to Robert Yoder and Jim Sheets who were drawn in that order.
Email me your postal addresses.
Robert, I should be able to get this boxed and shipped within a day or 
two.
Doug

17) From: Douglas Strait
Reading several recent threads by folks trying to decide upon their 
next step on their journey through homeroasting hardware has made me 
decide that it is time for my backup roasters to make another 
roadtrip.
Longtime list members may recall that I sent my highly modified popper 
on a series of 4 month visits to several list members. The last of 
those 4 month tours of duty is soon coming to an end plus I have since 
built another similar unit. I can thus have two on the road at once.
These roasters are Wear-Ever 1400W pumpers modified to enable 
independent and variable control over heat and fan speed. This is 
implemented by use of power electronics mounted in the popper housing 
itself. This provides the control of a setup using separate variacs on 
the heater and fan without the added bulk and weight of the variacs.
If you are considering whether a popper plus variac setup is for you, 
using these will be a good opportunity to see. Also if you find 
yourself suffering from "profile envy" these will allow you to profile 
a roast to your heart's content. I am offering one of these to each of 
two list members in good standing with the understanding that it will 
eventually be returned at the sooner of your interest in using this 
unit has passed, or 4 months has passed.
Basic specs of unit:
Batch size range: 80-250g [3-9 oz] Note that the maximum is double 
that of an unmodified unit.
Instrumentation: Permanently installed type K T/C probe in bean mass 
[I will supply the readout instrument if you do not already have one]
Power: 120 VAC
Caveats.
I am strictly an out of doors roaster so no provision has been made 
for chaff collection. Several list members who have used these have 
reported using these satisfactorily indoors under a range hood. You 
are on your own on this.
The available power at my roasting location tends to run in the 
118-120V range loaded. I therefore have made no modifications to 
accommodate low line voltage. As a consequence, if your available 
power runs much under 115V loaded, you may be limited a bit on the 
maximum batch size range especially at lower ambient temps [below 
40F]. Consequentally. if you know that your loaded line voltage at 
your roasting location will run under 115V or you anticipate roasting 
in ambients under 40F, let me know and I will implement a simple 
additional modification prior to shipping which will accommodate this.
If you are interested in participating, post to the list. In a week or 
so I'll put the names in the hat and make a selection.
Doug

18) From: Tim Wat
Douglas Strait wrote:
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Doug, first of all I'm quite impressed by your kind offer.
Naturally, I'm very interested in participating, as it seems the quandry 
I find myself in is the precise raison d'etre for your experiment.  Mind 
you, I'm very new to this list, and may not have passed any probationary 
period per se, but I would like my name included in the proverbial hat 
for possible inclusion in this trial.
Thanks so much.
Tim

19) From: Michael Dhabolt
May I add;  The recent threads concerning upgrades to roasting
equipment have generally originated from folks with 'small' roasters,
considering a minor upgrade - - Doug's offer should also be considered
by those with the current crop of larger commercially produced half
pound roasters.  A roaster such as Doug's not only will produce the
same quantity but will bring an entirely new dimension to roasting
when compared to these machines.
One Caveat to those considering Doug's offer, once you have become
used to equipment with the flexibility necessary for true profile
roasting, it is hard to settle for anything less.
Doug, a very sincere Kudos for promoting a high quality educational
experience for those on the list.
Mike (just plain)

20) From: Matt Doughty
Sign me up as someone who is interested. Anyone who has used Doug's
setup care to comment on possible ways to deal with chafe indoors?
I think my i-roast has about 6 months left in it, and I would love to try
something like this before jumping into a hot-top.  Also are there any
picks of this setup? Let me add Doug that this is a very kind offer from
you.
thanks,
--Matt
On 9/9/06, Michael Dhabolt  wrote:
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-- 
--Matt

21) From: Ken Bozarth
Can I be added to the list of potential popper borrower?
Ken Bozarth
Realty Executives of Wichita
734-2978  Cell
942-5359  Home
722-9393  Office
942-0024  Fax

22) From: Dan Kellgren
Great offering Doug.  I am approaching my 1 year mark of home roasting and
would love to compare a different method of roasting.
Thanks - Dan Kellgren
On 9/9/06, Douglas Strait  wrote:
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23) From: Brian Kamnetz
Doug,
Very generous of you. Please place my name on the list of candidates.
Thanks,
Brian
On 9/9/06, Douglas Strait  wrote:
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24) From: Tom Ogren
Doug, please count me in! Six months of unmodded PopperyII roasting has
taught me a lot of things. Mostly I have learned that I want more control. I
would be especially curious to see just how much profiling could improve my
coffees. My primary goal is to slow down those roasts and finish lighter!
Neat offer!
TO in VA
On 9/9/06, Douglas Strait  wrote:
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25) From: Steven Sobel
Doug,
I have been using a Caffe Roaster and have been debating whether I should
try to modify it, get a Gene Coffee Roaster or a HotTop.  However, your
roaster sounds interesting.  Please count me in.  Thanks.
On 9/9/06, Douglas Strait  wrote:
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26) From: raymanowen
"...comment on possible ways to deal with chafe indoors"
A.)- You don't want the roaster eating its own chaff at all.
       Pull a nylon hose stocking up over the bottom air inlets of the
Pumper/ roaster.
B.)- Modify the shape of a large screen mesh colander to fit over the top.
      You could cut out a round adapter that fits the circular colander, and
cut out its center to fit over the top of the Pumper/ roaster. Slit some
neoprene fuel line to line the opening where it fits over the Pumper. That
will secure the fit without defacing the Pumper/ roaster, and you could
include it as an improvement with the roaster when you pass it on.
My Song Baht-
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?

27) From: jay hobaugh
Doug, please count me in! Six months of unmodded PopperyII roasting has
taught me a lot of things. Mostly I have learned that I want more 
control. I
would be especially curious to see just how much profiling could 
improve my
coffees. My primary goal is to slow down those roasts and finish 
lighter!
Neat offer!
TO in VA
   
  I would also like to put my name in the hat. also very new to home roasting 2 - 2 1/2 mos.  I had given up popper roasting because of the unpredictability factor. thus the heat gun bread machine. but since I have the wrong bread machine (no dough setting) and am not too mechanically inclined to mod it, I went out and bought a small 12" carbon steel wok today. 
  Let me also say thanks for this very gracious offering of yours.
  PS just curious do you have a webpage with pics of this modded popper  -  would love to see it especially if there are instructions there for the mod. I have a poppery II, wearever pumper 1400, 1200 (I think) and another no name form walgreens. I really nedd to embrace this and mod one of mine eventually but all funds right now are going for a new grinder of some sort. havent decided yet.
  Steve
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28) From: Douglas Strait
Here is the list so far:
Scott Miller
Tom Prusa
Tim Wat
Matt Doughty
Ken Bozarth
Dan Kellgren
Brian Kamnetz
Tom Ogren
Steven Sobel
Jay Hobaugh
If you are among those who contacted me via email rather than posting 
to the list *and* your name is missing from the above list, it is 
likely because acknowledgements sent from me to your apparent sending 
email address were bounced as bad email addresses. If I missed anyone 
else, let me know. I'll leave this open through the weekend and will 
update this list at least once more so omissions can be corrected.
Doug

29) From: Douglas Strait
Jay Hobaugh asks:
"PS just curious do you have a webpage with pics of this modded 
opper  -  would love to see it especially if there are instructions 
there for the mod."
No, I don't have a webpage. Hell, I don't even own a camara. Here is a 
repost of a more detailed description in response to a question 
similar to yours from last January when one of these was first offered 
up for a road trip.
Sorry, I don't have a camera. I'll paint a visual. It looks pretty 
much stock with the following exceptions. Right above the power switch 
in the area with the "Popcorn Pumper" label there are two knobs which 
control heat and fan. Between the knobs is a 3 position toggle switch 
selecting OFF, Fan Only, and Fan plus Heat. On the right side of the 
popper on the sloping white portion of the housing is a male 
thermocouple connector. A T/C extension cable is plugged to the 
connector to transmit the T/C signal to the readout device. The 
plastic chute has been removed and a tin can chimney extension used in 
its place.
The fan circuitry consists of full wave rectification of the 120VAC 
input followed by filtration with 220uF [330uF on later unit] of 
capacitance. This gets me about 160VDC to work with. I then pulse 
width modulate [PWM] this DC to control the fan speed. My PWM circuit 
is designed around a CMOS version of the 555 type timer IC. My 
resulting duty cycle of the PWM is adjustable through a range of about 
52 to 99%.
The heater side control is very simple. It uses a Triac to control 
power by means of adjusting the point in the AC input waveform that it 
turns on. This is the same technology as a lamp dimmer differing only 
by use of a higher rated component with adequate heatsinking to handle 
the full heater load. The only modification other than those necessary 
to mount the electronics and T/C is that I widened selected slots of 
the 16 inlet to roast chamber slots. I had found through previous 
investigation that the temperature of the air varies considerably from 
slot to slot. By widening certain slots it is possible to reduce the 
temperature variation from slot to slot. If this were a Hot Rod engine 
you could say that it has been "Ported and Polished" ;-) Note that 
this selective slot widening was not done on the more recently 
constructed unit. Subsequent testing called into question whether it 
was of any practical value.
Doug

30) From: Douglas Strait
Here is updated the list so far:
Scott Miller
Tom Prusa
Tim Wat
Matt Doughty
Ken Bozarth
Dan Kellgren
Brian Kamnetz
Tom Ogren
Steven Sobel
Jay Hobaugh
Dave Hurtt
I only read the list in it's digest format. I will leave this open 
through the digest that is sent around midnight Sunday/Monday.
While there are only two roasters offered, I think I will draw 3 
names, the third being a contingent for the case that either of the 
first two choose for any reason to decline or significantly shorten 
their time of possession. One roaster is immediately available and 
will ship ASAP to the first name drawn, the second roaster will become 
available after the end of the Month when it is scheduled to return 
from it's current road trip. Good luck to all!
Doug

31) From: jay hobaugh
thanks for the answer...I dont get it though but thanks for the answer anyway I have a freind who has a friend who works in a lab with electronics maybe If I show him your answer he would go OH OK makes perfect sense to me. We'll see. I just know my poppers were too unpredictable. maybe my next purchase to save for will be a variac? not too sure yet. it is still kinda warm so I am still roasting on the front porch with the heat gun. but winter is around the corner. Did I read you right at one post that you said this all cost like 30 $ ? I would rather spend all available free cash on greens(than a variac that is)
  Thanks for the answer I will show it to my friend tomorrow.
  Steve in Indiana
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32) From: raymanowen
Well, I'm not sure to whose post you're referring, but for under $30, you
certainly can fabricate variable power controls for fan speed and heater
power.
For the fan speed, you can supply variable voltage steps using only the
popper as it exists right now. To speed the fan, just subtract coils (short
them out) from the nichrome ballast coil.
To boost power and temperature of the heater, you can add a 6.3v, 10a
filament transformer to the heater supply line, and control the primary with
a lighting dimmer control. Wire it up. If it reduces the incoming power by
the ~6.3v, reverse either the primary or the secondary wires, whichever is
easier, and it will boost the voltage by the ~6.3v.
There are a number of details you will work out as you encounter them. That
transformer might be hard to find and blow the $30 budget.
If it were me, I would just power the whole thing from a diac/triac on 240
volts. Measure the applied power to the popper- if you are going above 140v
to the popper, it'll Blue Dot on you. And about that fast, too!
Disclaimer: If You've Never Been Shocked Before, The First And Last Could
Happen Here. Keep one hand in your pocket.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
"Blue Dot for Sure Shot" - -Sylvania flash bulbs.

33) From: miKe mcKoffee
All interesting and mostly doable. However when you said "To boost power and
temperature of the heater, you can add a 6.3v, 10a filament transformer to
the heater supply line, and control the primary with a lighting dimmer
control." is very bad advice IMO. Using a light dimmer (such as a novice
would go and get from say Home Depot) for a heater control is asking for
trouble fast. OTH it might be fun to watch fry.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of
raymanowen
	Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:23 AM
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	Well, I'm not sure to whose post you're referring, but for under
$30, you certainly can fabricate variable power controls for fan speed and
heater power.
	
	For the fan speed, you can supply variable voltage steps using only
the popper as it exists right now. To speed the fan, just subtract coils
(short them out) from the nichrome ballast coil. 
	
	To boost power and temperature of the heater, you can add a 6.3v,
10a filament transformer to the heater supply line, and control the primary
with a lighting dimmer control. Wire it up. If it reduces the incoming power
by the ~6.3v, reverse either the primary or the secondary wires, whichever
is easier, and it will boost the voltage by the ~6.3v.
	
	There are a number of details you will work out as you encounter
them. That transformer might be hard to find and blow the $30 budget. 
	
	If it were me, I would just power the whole thing from a diac/triac
on 240 volts. Measure the applied power to the popper- if you are going
above 140v to the popper, it'll Blue Dot on you. And about that fast, too! 
	
	Disclaimer: If You've Never Been Shocked Before, The First And Last
Could Happen Here. Keep one hand in your pocket.
	
	Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
	
	"Blue Dot for Sure Shot" - -Sylvania flash bulbs. 
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34) From: raymanowen
Controlling the 120v into the boosted heating circuit could get exciting-
you'd be controlling the entire 1Kw (+) with a 660 watt rated dimmer.
Don't do that. Instead, just do what I said and control the primary of the
filament transformer- (6.3v, 10a = 63watts ).
Before one even embarks on this modding thread, go ahead and get the
Diedrich sample roaster. Lots cheaper than the new 2007 Land Barge being
considered. Nobody bats an eye at the Detroit or Nippon Iron that'll be old
by design in 2008, and costs $1 Grand* a year to maintain.
In 20years, you'll be doing Fabulous home roasts with the Diedrich and not
another nickel invested,
*YMMV of course. - Maybe the Roasting shed...
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Eschew decaf

35) From: miKe mcKoffee
Ah, when you said "... and control the primary with a lighting dimmer
control." I interpreted that as primary heater not primary boost =
filament to
the primary heater. 
miKe
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of
raymanowen
	Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:43 AM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: Re: +A Non-Traditional offering
	
	
	Controlling the 120v into the boosted heating circuit could get
exciting- you'd be controlling the entire 1Kw (+) with a 660 watt rated
dimmer.
	
	Don't do that. Instead, just do what I said and control the primary
of the filament transformer- ( 6.3v, 10a = 63watts ).
	
	Before one even embarks on this modding thread, go ahead and get the
Diedrich sample roaster. Lots cheaper than the new 2007 Land Barge being
considered. Nobody bats an eye at the Detroit or Nippon Iron that'll be =
old
by design in 2008, and costs $1 Grand* a year to maintain. 
	
	In 20years, you'll be doing Fabulous home roasts with the Diedrich
and not another nickel invested, 
	*YMMV of course. - Maybe the Roasting shed...
	
	Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
	
	Eschew decaf

36) From: raymanowen
Sorry my illogic is obfuscated-
I'm just trying to make sure there's still a 1KVA variac for me when I have
to wake up my Viking Thunderbolt after ~45 years. As soon as I again get th=
e
ham ticket that will allow me to put that pristine Boat Anchor on the air- =
I
might as well erase "Late Night." What with roasting, brewing and radio
contacts, "First Light" might become the norm
Now I'll be looking for contacts in places Uncle Sam put me, plus I'll be
cranking the "beam," a Log-Periodic for 15- 50MHz, into the coffee belt if =
I
can. It's a brutal skyhook- I'm going to have to put up a pole building for
a car port/ roasting shelter and complete the antenna on the flat roof. Hop=
e
the new landlord doesn't mind, but this City/Cow Town's probably a lost
cause.
Egad- I do love this Bolivian. I've never had coffee like this- every sip i=
s
like the surf coming in. First a big wave of flavor you have to stop and pa=
y
attention to appreciate. Then you swallow and Wow! here comes a flourish of
almond and chocolate with a vague tart cherry zing. Oooh!
Better than You- Know- What... Ah, well- at least I can drink this coffee
all day long. So what I'm 63? Got these beans while I was 61. At least they
have staying power- no, they've actually blossomed in flavor since I was
first roasting in a popper.
Actually, I'm roasting completely differently with the HG/DB, age Far
longer, grind much differently and brewing is on a different planet, so
can't compare with my earlier notes.
I'll have to try some espresso shots. This ought to be Huge! It is already-
careful, Ray-
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Ladies and Gentlemen- Start Your Grinders-
On 9/16/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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37) From: Larry Greenwald
Please throw my name into the hat.
Thanks!
Larry
On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 21:52 -0400, Douglas Strait wrote:
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38) From: Douglas Strait
OK. The final hat [which was actually a SS mixing bowl] contained the 
following. I hope that I didn't miss anyone.
Scott Miller
Tom Prusa
Tim Wat
Matt Doughty
Ken Bozarth
Dan Kellgren
Brian Kamnetz
Tom Ogren
Steven Sobel
Jay Hobaugh
Dave Hurtt
Maureen Azcoitia
Lisa Carton
Larry Greenwald
The drawn names, in order, were Tom Ogren, Steven Sobel, and Dan 
Kellgren.
Please send me your shipping addresses and any other contact 
information you deem appropriate.
Tom, I have a unit that I can ship to you ASAP. Steven, you will 
likely be receiving the unit that is currently on a road trip shortly 
after the end of the Month. Dan, you are the contingent receiptant 
should the others decline or choose to significantly shorten their 
scheduled 4 Month period of possession.
All, please advise me as to whether you will be roasting out of doors 
and, if so, the minimum anticipated ambient temperature while 
roasting. Please also advise whether you already have a Type K 
thermocouple readout instrument. If you don't, I will be sending one. 
Also useful, but not essential, is the voltage available at your 
intended roasting location under the load of something equivalent to a 
popper such as a toaster oven or another popper. If you don't have the 
means to measure this, don't worry about it.
Thanks to all for participating.
Happy roasting.
Doug

39) From: Tom Ogren
Yessssssss!!! Doug, I can't really tell you how excited I am about your
offering. The thermocouple offer is incredibly generous of you as well. I do
not have one. Time to break out the graph paper!! I have this sneaking
suspicion that I will really enjoy roasting with your more controllable
setup I see a setup of my own in the not-too-distant future. I can't wait to
taste the difference between my current six minute roasts (unmodified
Poppery II) and the 10-12 minute profiled roasts made possible by your
machine. I'll send along other information off-list.
Thanks again for a really interesting offering!
TO in VA
On 9/18/06, Douglas Strait  wrote:
<Snip>

40) From: Ken Bozarth
I have a K type thermocouple and roast in my garage in Kansas.
Ken Bozarth
Realty Executives of Wichita
734-2978  Cell
942-5359  Home
722-9393  Office
942-0024  Fax

41) From: Dan Kellgren
Great offering!  Thank you for your time on this.  I think it's really
awesome that you loan these out for us to try.  Thank you so much.  I'll
send you my info off-list.
Dan
On 9/18/06, Douglas Strait  wrote:
<Snip>

42) From: Douglas Strait
Longtime list members may recall that I sent my highly modified popper 
on a series of 4 month visits to several list members. The last of 
those 4 month tours of duty has recently ended and thus it is looking 
for a new place to hang out for another 4 months.
This roaster is Wear-Ever 1400W pumper modified to enable independent 
and variable control over heat and fan speed. This is implemented by 
use of power electronics mounted in the popper housing itself. This 
provides the control of a setup using separate variacs on the heater 
and fan without the added bulk and weight of the variacs.
If you are considering whether a popper plus variac setup is for you, 
using these will be a good opportunity to see. Also if you find 
yourself suffering from "profile envy" these will allow you to profile 
a roast to your heart's content. I am offering this to a list member 
in good standing with the understanding that it will eventually be 
returned at the sooner of your interest in using this unit has passed, 
or 4 months has passed.
Basic specs of unit:
Batch size range: 80-250g [3-9 oz] Note that the maximum is double 
that of an unmodified unit.
Instrumentation: Permanently installed type K T/C probe in bean mass 
[I will supply the readout instrument if you do not already have one]
Power: 120 VAC
Caveats.
I am strictly an out of doors roaster so no provision has been made 
for chaff collection. Several list members who have used these have 
reported using these satisfactorily indoors under a range hood. You 
are on your own on this.
This particular unit has had it's maximum input power boosted a bit to 
accommodate roasting down to about 40F with a loaded line voltage of 
115V.  If your available power runs much under 115V loaded, you may be 
limited a bit on the maximum batch size range especially at lower 
ambient temps [below 40F]. Consequentally. if you know that your 
loaded line voltage at your roasting location will run under 115V or 
you anticipate roasting in ambients under 40F, let me know and I will 
implement a simple additional modification prior to shipping which 
will accommodate this.
If you are interested in participating, post to the list. In a week or 
so I'll put the names in the hat and make a selection.
Doug

43) From: TERRY TITSWORTH
Since the temp.'s in Okla. are again approaching the 50's and 60's, and I
still am having trouble defining the sounds of 1st crack with my IR2 a
possible change in methods may help to get the best of my SM Beans...Toss my
name in the bucket for the draw.
TerryT
On 2/21/07, Douglas Strait  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
Start HOT and work your way Down...
Peppers AND Coffee.
[|:{O....[|:{U...
(I'm the tall guy in the middle)

44) From: Lisa J. Carton, LICSW
Doug--i'd LOVE the chance to check out those poppers!!! very very cool!
D=
efinitley put me in the hat please! and thanks for the offering............=
..
Lisa
----- Original Message ----
From: Douglas Strait 
To: Homeroast
Sent: Wednesday, F=
ebruary 21, 2007 11:06:41 PM
Subject: +A Non-Traditional offering
=
Longtime list members may recall that I sent my highly modified popper =
on a series of 4 month visits to several list members. The last of 
th=
ose 4 month tours of duty has recently ended and thus it is looking 
for =
a new place to hang out for another 4 months.
This roaster is Wear-Eve=
r 1400W pumper modified to enable independent 
and variable control over =
heat and fan speed. This is implemented by 
use of power electronics moun=
ted in the popper housing itself. This 
provides the control of a setup u=
sing separate variacs on the heater 
and fan without the added bulk and w=
eight of the variacs.
If you are considering whether a popper plus var=
iac setup is for you, 
using these will be a good opportunity to see. Als=
o if you find 
yourself suffering from "profile envy" these will allow yo=
u to profile 
a roast to your heart's content. I am offering this to a li=
st member 
in good standing with the understanding that it will eventuall=
y be 
returned at the sooner of your interest in using this unit has pass=
ed, 
or 4 months has passed.
Basic specs of unit:
Batch size ra=
nge: 80-250g [3-9 oz] Note that the maximum is double 
that of an unmodif=
ied unit.
Instrumentation: Permanently installed type K T/C probe in bean=
 mass 
[I will supply the readout instrument if you do not already have o=
ne]
Power: 120 VAC
Caveats.
I am strictly an out of doors roaster =
so no provision has been made 
for chaff collection. Several list members=
 who have used these have 
reported using these satisfactorily indoors un=
der a range hood. You 
are on your own on this.
This particular unit ha=
s had it's maximum input power boosted a bit to 
accommodate roasting dow=
n to about 40F with a loaded line voltage of 
115V.  If your available po=
wer runs much under 115V loaded, you may be 
limited a bit on the maximum=
 batch size range especially at lower 
ambient temps [below 40F]. Consequ=
entally. if you know that your 
loaded line voltage at your roasting loca=
tion will run under 115V or 
you anticipate roasting in ambients under 40=
F, let me know and I will 
implement a simple additional modification pri=
or to shipping which 
will accommodate this.
If you are interested i=
n participating, post to the list. In a week or 
so I'll put the names in=
 the hat and make a selection.
Doug=
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45) From: Tom Ogren
OK folks! Speaking as a former winner of Doug's offering (last September), I
highly recommend tossing your name in the hat for this offer. The dual
variac functionality of his poppers offers more control than any store
bought roasting setup of which I'm aware. Roast profiles are a snap with two
dials, mounted cleanly on the face of the popper: one controls the heat, the
other controls the fan.
If this offering is for the same rig I was privileged to use, the popper
also has a toggle switch (3 positions) mounted above the popper's power
switch. The middle position is "heat+fan", the up position is "fan only"
(nice for in-popper cooling mode), and the down position is "popper off".
The popper came replete with a sturdily installed temp. probe (inserted into
the roast chamber), a high quality digital temperature readout device, and
the classic soup can chimney wrapped neatly in insulative material. It is
so, so nice.
The most engaging part of using Doug's popper (for me) is the ability to
watch and control the real-time temperature of the roast chamber.This is a
tremendous teaching tool and I can't imagine going back to an unmodded
Poppery2. So therein lies the rub folks: this thing WILL forever spoil your
appreciation of the unmodified popper.
TO in VA
.
On 2/21/07, Douglas Strait < dougstrait> wrote:
<Snip>

46) From: Dave
On 2/21/07, Douglas Strait  wrote:
<Snip>
Well I'm a newbie, and have been roasting in a, so far, unmodified popper.
I'd love to be able to do profiling, and get better control of my roast.
Please put my name in the hat.
Thanks!
-- 
Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps

47) From: Peter Zulkowski
Hi Doug,
I am interested.. please contact me off list.
PeterZ
Douglas Strait wrote:
<Snip>

48) From: Gerald Newsom
Doug,
I would like to try your modified popper for a few months to see what it's
like to profile some roasts (as opposed to my Heat Gun/Stainless steel
bowl).  Please put my name in the hat as well, if you don't mind.
Gerald
On 2/22/07, Peter Zulkowski  wrote:
<Snip>

49) From: Larry Johnson
Count me in. I've always wanted to see what real profiling was like.
And thanks for doing this, Doug.
On 2/21/07, Douglas Strait  wrote:
<Snip>
<Snip>
-- 
<Snip>

50) From: Kim G
thanks Doug
Count me in, too.
Kim G

51) From: True, Dennis W. FC1 (CVN69)
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Hey just think it should be back on the block next time just in time for
me to put in my name!!!!
WHOO HOO!!!!
 
Dennis 
AKA 
FC1(SW) Dennis W. True 
Safety Dept 
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) 
FPO AE 09532-2830 
HG/DB and Z&D roasting in the Indian Ocean 
 "On station and on point 92 and counting down..." 
 
 
 
	On 2/21/07, Douglas Strait  wrote: 
		Longtime list members may recall that I sent my highly
modified popper
		on a series of 4 month visits to several list members.
The last of 
		those 4 month tours of duty has recently ended and thus
it is looking
		for a new place to hang out for another 4 months.
		
		
		If you are interested in participating, post to the
list. In a week or
		so I'll put the names in the hat and make a selection. 
		
		Doug-- 
	Start HOT and work your way Down...
	Peppers AND Coffee.
	[|:{O....[|:{U...
	
	(I'm the tall guy in the middle) 

52) From: Floyd Lozano
I'm interested in seeing plans for how to make one.  I would prefer to build
one than borrow ;)
-F
On 2/22/07, Kim G  wrote:
<Snip>

53) From: jay hobaugh
Put my name into the hat too please
  And that name would be Steve Hobaugh
  Thanks
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54) From: Justin Marquez
OTOH, if you borrowed one, you'd have a real, live, "go-by"...
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX)
On 2/22/07, Floyd Lozano  wrote:
<Snip>

55) From: Douglas Strait
OK, here is who I have in the hat:
Dennis True
Terry Titsworth
Lisa Carton
Dave
Larry Johnson
Paul Duncan
Kim G.
Gerald Newsom
Steve (jay) Hobaugh
If I missed anyone or if you want into the hat, post to the list.
I'll leave this open through the digest that comes out around midnite 
Thursday and draw names Friday morning.
As I did last time, I'll also draw a contingent second name. I was 
recently informed that another popper that is on tour may become 
available early April. That one will likely go to the contingent name 
drawn.
Good luck!
Doug

56) From: Peter Zulkowski
Please put me on the list :)
PeterZ
Douglas Strait wrote:
<Snip>

57) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
Please add my name to the list.
dave
On Feb 28, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Douglas Strait wrote:
<Snip>

58) From: Brett Mason
Please don't put my name on the list.  I think the offering is nice,
but I have a lot of roasters, so this doesn't seem the most
appropriate...  So thanks, but please don't add me to the list.  At
least not this time...
Brett
  RWA
On 2/28/07, Dave Ehrenkranz  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
Cheers,
Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com

59) From: Wes Tyler
Doug..put my name in the hat, please.
Wes Tyler
----- Original Messa=
ge ----
From: Douglas Strait 
To: Homeroast=
.sweetmarias.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 11:06:41 PM
Subject=
: +A Non-Traditional offering
Longtime list members may recall that I =
sent my highly modified popper 
on a series of 4 month visits to several =
list members. The last of 
those 4 month tours of duty has recently ended=
 and thus it is looking 
for a new place to hang out for another 4 months=
.
This roaster is Wear-Ever 1400W pumper modified to enable independen=
t 
and variable control over heat and fan speed. This is implemented by =
use of power electronics mounted in the popper housing itself. This 
p=
rovides the control of a setup using separate variacs on the heater 
and =
fan without the added bulk and weight of the variacs.
If you are consi=
dering whether a popper plus variac setup is for you, 
using these will b=
e a good opportunity to see. Also if you find 
yourself suffering from "p=
rofile envy" these will allow you to profile 
a roast to your heart's con=
tent. I am offering this to a list member 
in good standing with the unde=
rstanding that it will eventually be 
returned at the sooner of your inte=
rest in using this unit has passed, 
or 4 months has passed.
Basi=
c specs of unit:
Batch size range: 80-250g [3-9 oz] Note that the maximum=
 is double 
that of an unmodified unit.
Instrumentation: Permanently in=
stalled type K T/C probe in bean mass 
[I will supply the readout instrum=
ent if you do not already have one]
Power: 120 VAC
Caveats.
I am s=
trictly an out of doors roaster so no provision has been made 
for chaff =
collection. Several list members who have used these have 
reported using=
 these satisfactorily indoors under a range hood. You 
are on your own on=
 this.
This particular unit has had it's maximum input power boosted a bi=
t to 
accommodate roasting down to about 40F with a loaded line voltage o=
f 
115V.  If your available power runs much under 115V loaded, you may be=
 
limited a bit on the maximum batch size range especially at lower 
am=
bient temps [below 40F]. Consequentally. if you know that your 
loaded li=
ne voltage at your roasting location will run under 115V or 
you anticipa=
te roasting in ambients under 40F, let me know and I will 
implement a si=
mple additional modification prior to shipping which 
will accommodate th=
is.
If you are interested in participating, post to the list. In a wee=
k or 
so I'll put the names in the hat and make a selection.
Doug
=
homeroast mailing l=
isthttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change y=
our personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to =http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings==
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60) From: Florida Randy
hey...late entry.
Randy in Florida
Thanks
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:00:09 -0500, "Douglas Strait"
 said:
<Snip>

61) From: Jim Carter
I'm interested also. Thanks for the opportunity, Doug.
Jim Carter
Douglas Strait wrote:
<Snip>

62) From: Andie Z
Doug,
Please include me in the drawing.
Andie Z

63) From: ADRIENNE WEEDE
Please add my name to the drawing, as well. Thanks.
Adrienne Weede
<Snip>

64) From: Mejia, Carlos
Wow...what a generous offer!  I'm a newbie with only a few months
experience with an iRoast2 but would LOVE to broaden my experience and
roast larger batches.  If I'm eligible, please add my name to the list!
Thanks,
Carlos

65) From: Florida Randy
Doug - I posted last evening....still interested.
Randy in Florida
Mucho Thanks for the Chance to Play and Share the Fun
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:00:09 -0500, "Douglas Strait"
 said:
<Snip>

66) From: Douglas Strait
Wow, we had almost 20 participants this go-round. The last two names 
into the hat were from Digest #5558, Adrienne Weede and Carlos Mejia.
For those who care about such things, I was drinking some Melitta 
filter dripped Juan Francisco Project El Salvadoran while preparing 
the little slips of paper with names for the hat. My hat looks 
surprisingly like a SS mixing bowl.
The two names drawn, it order were: Wes Tyler and Kim G.
Wes and Kim contact me off-list with your shipping and contact 
information.
I would also be interested in knowing whether you will be roasting out 
of doors as I do or indoors. Also, if you have the means to measure 
the loaded line voltage [voltage at plug under the load of something 
equivalent to a popper such as another popper or a toaster, etc] and 
it is convenient to do so, I would be interested in knowing your 
voltage. If you don't have the means, don't worry about it.
Wes, you will be receiving a popper/roaster directly from another list 
member, Steve Sobel, shortly after I receive the necessary shipping 
information and pass it along to Steve.
Kim, as the contingent receipient you will be receiving a unit as it 
becomes available.
Doug

67) From: Larry Johnson
Congratulations, Wes and Kim.
On 3/2/07, Douglas Strait  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
Larry J
"It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling
exception, is composed of others."
  - John Andrew Holmes

68) From: Dave
Congratulations to Wes and Kim. Now I'm just gonna have to get busy and work
on my own popper.
<Snip>
-- 
Dave
Some days...
It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps

69) From: Jim Carter
Doug, thanks again for this unique offering. That is a pretty cool thing 
you're doing.
Wes & Kim, congratulations and good look with the experimentation. 
Please report any interesting discoveries.
- Jim Carter
Douglas Strait wrote:
<Snip>

70) From: Mejia, Carlos
Congrats to Wes and Kim... and thanks Doug for the opportunity you are
giving to fellow roasters!  Your generosity is one of the things that
makes this a great community. ~carlos

71) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
Yes, congratulations to Wes and Kim. I also hope you will keep us  
informed of you experiences with the popper.
Doug, thanks for making it extremely easy for others to experience  
another roasting method.
dave
On Mar 2, 2007, at 7:39 AM, Mejia, Carlos wrote:
<Snip>

72) From: Gerald Newsom
Congratulations, Wes and Kim!  I hope you enjoy roasting with that popper!
Doug, thanks for the opportunity you've given those of us who haven't used a
popper before, especially one modified as well as yours that makes a
profiled roast possible.  It's a great Tradition offering!
Gerald
On 3/2/07, Dave Ehrenkranz  wrote:
<Snip>

73) From: Kim G
thanks Doug. Really looking forward to checking it out. Been roasting for a
couple years using a variac with a popper and wishing for more control. This
should get me moving, modifying and voiding warranties. I'll send you my
contact info.


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