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Topic: KMB (24 msgs / 444 lines)
1) From: Wesley Simon
I received my KMB last night and had my first pot this morning.  First pot,
I didn't pay much attention.  I brewed it up with a grind just under drip o=
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my SM+.  It tasted pretty weak.  I dumped that pot and cranked the grinder
down to about halfway between drip and espresso.  I used about 60 grams of
coffee.  This time, I paid more attention.  I stirred the resulting pot
(something I failed to do with the first pot).  The jury is still out on th=
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results; more data is required.  I used Guatemalan Antiqua peaberry coffee.
The cup was strong, but I don't know that it was any better or any stronger
than my press pot.  First impressions are that the press pot was better.  I
tamped lightly with a big spoon.  It wasn't perfect, but it formed a nice
puck.  Does anyone have any tips for using the KMB?
Tonight, I'm going to visit friends.  I'm taking the KMB and enough coffee
for a pot of Nicaraguan COE and a pot of Blue Batak.
On another note, I received my RK drum last night also.  I picked up a
fiesta grill at home depot on sale for $80.  I'll be assembling it tomorrow=
.
Wes

2) From: Wesley Simon
I'm replying to myself here.  I brewed the Batak in the KMB last night.  I
gave it a little more tamp, but did everything else the same.  It turned ou=
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excellent.  This morning I'm enjoying the COE.  It turned out far better
than it did in the press pot.  The KMB brew is a very strong, potent cup.
There isn't any bitterness whatsoever.  I'll be revisiting the Guatemalan
Antiqua again in the near future.
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3) From: David Pichner
Just learning my way around the KMB, have had it about a month, so not
much to offer in the way of brewing tips. For the past week I have
been brewing the Guatemalan Peaberry and the Rwanda Gatare,
alternating between the two each morning with some CR Dota
interspersed.  Absolutely love all in the KMB.
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4) From: Wesley Simon
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it is better than the press pot.
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5) From: Jim Anderson
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I am finding the same thing regarding the darker roasts. Also, I have
seen a couple of different recommendations as to the amount of coffee
to use. I have read 60 grams, 6 to 7 grams per cup and also 1 gram per
oz. of water.
I started out with 60g. Then dropped it to 50 and this morning tried
37g as that is how many ounces of water it takes to reach the 8 cup
mark on the jug. It wasn't bad. Maybe a bit thin. I tend to roast
somewhat darker than most on the list it seems, so this may not work
for folks that like the lighter roasts.
Using 150g of greens in my iRoast 2 yields about 130g of roasted
beans. If I can use somewhere around 45g per KMB brew the math works.
Jim

6) From: David Pichner
I've brewed Vienna Roasted SM's Monkey Blend in the KMB with great
results; I've also brewed Full City Rwanda Gatare, absolutely the best
cup I've roasted and brewed; Ever.
I've been using 7 grams coffee for each 1 larger cup mark (56 gm for 8
cups) with great results.
David.
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7) From: Frank Parth
First let me introduce myself, Frank Parth, and even through I've been drinking coffee for over 40 years, I didn't start getting serious until about 1984. That's when I bought a grinder, then a few years later a French press, and now I'm sliding faster down that slippery slope having bought a Zack & Dani's roaster about 6 months ago (and already feeling it's limitations).
I joined this list two or three weeks ago and immediately noticed that it was composed of people who were a) totally dedicated to seriously good coffee, and b) almost all very friendly. (And I base that latter comment based on other discussion forums I belong to, mostly computer-related or ship-building.)
But I have one gripe: this group uses more abbreviations and acronyms than any other group I've ever seen. I finally figured out that SM stands for Sweet Maria's, but many of the messages are still inscrutable to me. For example, what is a KMB?
Frank Parth
Lookin' forward to more good coffee.
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8) From: Cheryl Alexander
Krups Moka Brew. I think....:)
 Yes, it's rough on us newbies (at least new to the list), trying to figure all this out.
 
 cheryl
 
so many pens...so little time... 
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From: Frank Parth 
To: homeroast
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 16:26:51
Subject: Re: +KMB
First let me introduce myself, Frank Parth, and even through I've been drinking coffee for over 40 years, I didn't start getting serious until about 1984. That's when I bought a grinder, then a few years later a French press, and now I'm sliding faster down that slippery slope having bought a Zack & Dani's roaster about 6 months ago (and already feeling it's limitations).
I joined this list two or three weeks ago and immediately noticed that it was composed of people who were a) totally dedicated to seriously good coffee, and b) almost all very friendly. (And I base that latter comment based on other discussion forums I belong to, mostly computer-related or ship-building.)
But I have one gripe: this group uses more abbreviations and acronyms than any other group I've ever seen. I finally figured out that SM stands for Sweet Maria's, but many of the messages are still inscrutable to me. For example, what is a KMB?
Frank Parth
Lookin' forward to more good coffee.
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9) From: Gerald and Beth Newsom
Welcome, Fraink, and thanks for asking that question.  I was just  going to
go back to the archives to see if I could figure it out so no one would know
how ignorant I was.  :-)
Thank you, Cheryl for telling us what it stands for.
Gerald

10) From: David Pichner
Frank;
Welcome to the list. I've been drinking coffee for over thirty years,
mostly whole beans, grinder and various percolators. My home roasting
is now approaching 2 yrs.
I don't know about ship building but as with computer lists (CPU, Meg,
GHz,  MB, Unix, Win32, OS,  AI, etc), this list and I would speculate
other coffee lists have many acronyms for all sorts of things. Every
discipline I have wandered into has them, even the written English
language has acronyms that are used every day, e.g., i.e. etc, and
most people understand them.  The exact meanings of some acronyms have
been lost to most of the modern world (RSVP) and yet are still used
and comprehended everyday. For me, as with all other things, time and
patience helped me with the language of this list.
Krupps Moka Brew (KMB).
I try in posts, and failed in the previous one, to limit my acronyms
to something I have written earlier. I will redouble my efforts on
that front.
Again, welcome to the list and you are right, if you stay on this
list, you will slide exponentially faster down that slope. A few years
ago $170.00 for a "coffee pot" didn't seem reasonable (Technivorm),
$170 was more then any reasonable person would spend for an espresso
machine let alone a "coffee pot." Now, for me,  $170.00 for a good 202
degree automated brewing system or 10 times that for a home espresso
machine doesn't seem unreasonable; I don't own either (currently) but
I'm beginning to appreciate the value of this level of equipment.
Currently I use the KMB, learning how to use a Chemex brewer and for
the past two years used a Bodum electric Vacuum (eVac) Santos and then
a Yama stovetop siphon as my main processes for brewing coffee.  I
also use a French Press, mainly for a single cup of decaf in the
afternoons. I plan on getting a stove top siphon system again in the
near future, broke two Yama funnels, so setting aside that process for
a while.
For the last time, welcome to the list and particularly home roasting;
Enjoy the ride and the good coffee.
Rejoicing in the Lord, always;
David.
On 2/4/06, Frank Parth  wrote:
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inking coffee for over 40 years, I didn't start getting serious until about=
 1984. That's when I bought a grinder, then a few years later a French pres=
s, and now I'm sliding faster down that slippery slope having bought a Zack=
 & Dani's roaster about 6 months ago (and already feeling it's limitations)=
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 was composed of people who were a) totally dedicated to seriously good cof=
fee, and b) almost all very friendly. (And I base that latter comment based=
 on other discussion forums I belong to, mostly computer-related or ship-bu=
ilding.)
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Sweet Maria's, but many of the messages are still inscrutable to me. For ex=
ample, what is a KMB?
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11) From: Vicki Smith
The first (as far as I know) of the discontinued KMB pots has now shown 
up on Ebay.http://tinyurl.com/fl9x8 The auction closes in about 7 hours.
They appear to be sold out (again) on Amazon.
vicki

12) From: Steve Hay
On 7/24/06, Vicki Smith  wrote:
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I've a question about this.  Isn't this a form of brewing not unique to this
machine?  What about the other machines?
How does this compare to Stovetop Espresso or other Pressure Brewers?
-- 
Steven Hay
hay.steve -AT- gmail.com
Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural
numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural
number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."

13) From: Vicki Smith
One of my favourite lines is that I have Krups Moka Brewer that does not 
make moka, and a stove top espresso maker, that does not make espresso.
The KMB makes wonderful coffee, and brews it at the proper temperature. 
It is different from a drip, or a vac pot, or stove top moka. It's a 
thing pretty much unto itself. I don't know how many bars of pressure it 
builds up, but I suspect it is less than a stove moka pot.
It also makes 40 ounces at a time, which, in my world makes it a great 
morning pot for the two of us.
vicki
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14) From: Peter Zulkowski
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih1&item0013344087&rd=1&sspagenameRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1wow
PeterZ

15) From: Brett Mason
a bit high for me...
Brett
On 7/29/06, Peter Zulkowski  wrote:
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Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
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16) From: Peter Zulkowski
Yup... way too high...
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17) From: Vicki Smith
Makes me glad I bought a spare when they were clearance priced a few 
months ago.
Vicki
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18) From: Marc
That's about what I paid for both of mine....
The KMB is one of my favorite ways of making coffee, along with a vac pot
and the aeropress.
It sure would be nice if Krups would bring it back to the states as I have a
number of friends who want one.
-Marc
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19) From: Marc
I meant thats what I paid for both of mine combined...!
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20) From: raymanowen
The KMB is a really interesting brewing device. It seemss like a high-tech
stovetop espresso (STE) method, which latter method I happen to like every
time I revert to it. I'm fond of simplicity. Perfect Circle piston rings has
a logo that describes my involvement in the KMB.
The heart grows fond of the all glass "Vaculator" we had in the 40's and
early 50's. Mom and Dad liked my coffee, but I thought it was too hot and
too weak to drink. Eight o'clock beans.
It was either 56 or 32 (-?) cranks of the wall grinder, for a full 10c pot
-or the morning usual, 6c. Of course, I purposely made The Mistake once, but
I don't remember if Dad drank it any stronger after that episode. I doubt
it, because the economy of bean usage would have ruled in his mind.
Who knew from green and home roasting? Dad's family didn't have the
Proverbial Pot
I suffer no such constraints with coffee- I'm always trying to make it taste
right.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Still tryin-

21) From: M. McCandless
Finally got that elusive KMB.
The first brew was a little weak, but what a difference.
This brewer brings out a whole plethora of flavors just hinted
at with the TV.
FAR surpasses all expectations.
We're going to love this one.
McSparky

22) From: Eddie Dove
McSparky,
Where did you get it?
Eddie
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23) From: Michael Mccandless
eBay
It's been on my search list for a Month-O'-Sundays.
Amazingly I picked it up for just under a C-note.
(Pre Ship).
McSparky
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24) From: ConradArms
I heard about the KMB being sold at some Tuesday Morning stores last  
November.  I searched and finally found only one at a store in  Jacksonville, Fl.  I 
was lucky to find it and it only cost me $50.  I  absolutely love it.  It 
makes GREAT coffee.  I'm glad to see they are  selling them here in the States 
again so I can get any replacement parts if  needed........Dorothy
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