Harvey just delivered an order (I think unfortunately for me) in record breaking time. Maria shipped Thursday afternoon and it got here (OHIO) on Saturday when no one was home. I wasn't expecting them and I didn't find the beans until Sunday AM - so they have been outside in 5 degree F weather all night. Included in the batch is/was the Gethumbwini and Brasil Cerrado winners. Would any experts please respond with the expected effects of going from Harvey truck temp to 5 degrees, sitting overnight at 5 degrees and then back to room temperature?
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I dont see where it should ruin them. Cardboard is a good insulator, and the beans in the middle of the box are well insulated by the outer beans. A few hours at that cold hopefully didnt ruin them for you. I can't really say for sure though, and the only way to know for sure will be to roast some and try some. Good luck and hopefully you wont have a problem. aaron
Thanks, Mike, I'll post to the list how they turn out when roasted. Its not Sweet Marias fault - they had no way to know I wasn't going to be there to receive the beans, and I wouldn't ask them for any form of compensation no matter how the roasts turn out. I would however suggest to those that are on the list in areas that can see extreme cold to be cautious of Harvey arriving early or late and leaving bean in less than ideal conditions. I wonder if Harvey can "hold the beans" if someone isn't at the door to receive them (ala UPS and FedEx).
Scott, I'm in NE Ohio and I know exactly what you mean about this extreme cold. I've been roasting this morning with no intentions of leaving the house. Last night he thermometer outside the kitchen window was reading 3 degrees F. Yuck! Jim
Jim, Where abouts in NE Ohio? I'm in Canton/North Canton. I will be leaving the house though (heading up to Beachwood, over to Twinsburg, and back to Canton). If you are in route, I've been working on tweaking my FrankenTop Roast profile and have way more 200 gram runs than I'll be able to use over the next couple of weeks and would be happy to drop some off.
For less than $7/month you can rent a post office box that's big enough for most letters and rolled up magazines. In most post offices they have temporary lockers for larger packages (perfect size for the flat rate box SM uses) that they will conveniently leave a key in your box for. This will not help you with any other carrier than the USPS.
It was written: I wonder if Harvey can "hold the beans" if someone isn't at the door to receive them (ala UPS and FedEx). =========================== I don't think this would help any to be honest. Holding them would simply mean they leave them in the truck parked overnight in their parking lot.... in the sub freezing temperatures. Then have to drop them at your place to wait some more in the freezing temps. In the long run, this would probably do more damage to the beans than good if the cold is detrimental to them. Aaron
Scott Wrote: I'm in Canton/North Canton. Hi Scott, We visited your city week before last. My daughter had her college conference swim finals at the city schools natatorium. Very nice facility. I lugged along beans, FP, hotpot and REI grinder. Had great coffee every morning to avoid the *$ concession in the hotel lobby operated by the desk clerk ;-(!! She very nicely explained to me that I did not need a $3000 "just push the button" fully automated "cappuccino" machine, that I could make great "cappuccino's" at home on a $75 espresso machine. Who da' thunk!! Hope your greens survived the deep chill!! Cheers, Geary