hey everyone..Im back in the game! :D I just won an auction for a FAEMA Compact 1 group commercial Espresso machine!! says EXCELLENT TESTED and ready to rock and ROLL!!! anyway.. any comments about this machine?? technical experience? gloating or just lude bashing?? hehe well I have 1 to start with... its 18" tall and 21" deep! where the HECK am I going to put this beast?? hehehehe it retailed for 3500.00 but of course I got it for a song and dance... lol Dennis Parham
Very cool Dennis, these are excellent machines, and may be the least expensive way to simply skip all of the home 'prosumer' machines and get a commercial-grade machine with a true E61 grouphead, a Sirai pressurestat, and a good-sized boiler. Of course, they are 'compact' only by commercial standards - next to a Mr Coffee, they look like Godzilla. There are a bewildering variety of models of this the 'C8x' series Faema out there - my favorite is the C84 (I think) which had manual control and a tiny rotary pump tucked in behind the boiler - most common are the C85 (manual) and C86 (automatic) versions which had a vibratory pump and were about $250 cheaper. These machines are very rugged, but there are a couple of gotchas. There's a built-in, rechargable resin-style water softener which typically hasn't been recharged in years and couldn't soften Bambi - so you'll need to dig in and check it - recharge instructions are posted up on CoffeeGeek, but I see they are down again. If the pour-over tank is the original plastic, it's going to be pretty brittle and and fragile by now - consider replacing it or converting to plumb-in. Nice score - with a little tweaking and fussing you'll have a machine that will give you many years of execellent espresso. Cheers Jim
Yes, I have been using one for years to make my americano's. Good solution to upgrade fever. Got my first one for $300, and my 2nd for $100. The 2nd had a pump fire. My eventual plan is to do a complete re-build of #2, and then swap with #1 and rebuild it. Dennis Parham wrote: <Snip> -- There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
Just start you shopping on-line now......for that new Boos Butcher Block roll-around Kitchen Kart that will be your new Italiano Espresso Corner! You can easily route your direct-plumb water line and drain along the back side of your kitchen cabinets for a clean exit along the base boards and into your new "Toy Station". So much fun! Oh, Yeah, much to the significant other's disdain..........the dining table will have to go. MJB
--Apple-Mail-19-935114377 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset -ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Dennis Parham wrote: <Snip> What do Quaaludes have to do with espresso (other than espresso being the antidote for them)? And it's too late to bash them, as they have long since been taken off the market. Sandy www.sandyandina.com --Apple-Mail-19-935114377 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset O-8859-1 On Mar 15, 2006, = at 9:59 AM, Dennis Parham wrote:
--Apple-Mail-29-935855664 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset -ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Please come to Delray Beach (Kings Point) from April 3-11--that's when I'll be visiting my mom, who is espresso-machine-less. We need an alternative to Starbucks! On Mar 15, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Dennis Parham wrote: <Snip> Sandy www.sandyandina.com --Apple-Mail-29-935855664 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset -ASCII Please come to Delray Beach = (Kings Point) from April 3-11--that's when I'll be visiting my mom, who = is espresso-machine-less. We need an alternative to = Starbucks! On Mar 15, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Dennis Parham = wrote:
--Apple-Mail-15-936953389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset F-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed haha ok.. maybe Ill stop by! ;-) We had a custom bike ride in the Parade last week in Del Ray! SHEESH! if I only made it there with espresso bike! would have made Palm Beach Post! HAHA Dennis On Mar 15, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Sandy Andina wrote: <Snip> <Snip> ï¿¼ --Apple-Mail-15-936953389 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary=Apple-Mail-16-936953389 --Apple-Mail-16-936953389 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset -ASCII haha ok.. maybe Ill stop by! ;-) = We had a custom bike ride in the Parade last week in Del Ray! SHEESH! if = I only made it there with espresso bike! would have made Palm Beach = Post! HAHA
On |Mar 15, at 1:31 PM|Mar 15, Sandy Andina wrote: <Snip> They have been? What's my connection been selling me for the last ten years?! Scot "suddenly my sleepiness makes no sense" Murphy --- "History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes." --Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, 1813. ME 14:21
I am not too into Faema, maybe a bias from way back in my coffee counter days where we switched out the Cimbali for a Faema (hey, I just managed the place, didn't own it!) That was a long time back, late '80s, and I knwo a lot has changed. We were all unaccustomed to seeing an espresso machine with plastic body panels. We also were all pretty awful baristas ( a word I still don't like even nowadays ) but when you work with a machine all day, every day, you develop preferences. Okay, that was Faema 18 years ago. Everything has changed, and when you can get a machine of that caliber at that price, you have every right to be (as we say in california) STOKED! I mean, the specs sound great. It's time I check out a newer Faema and see where they are at, just out of curiousity. Tom <Snip> -- "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters" Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting - Tom & Maria http://www.sweetmarias.com Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com
Dennis Parham wrote: <Snip> Nope. Its an e91 group.http://espressoparts.com/category/03.01.faema.e91duegroup/ From what i can tell they have moved the input and ouput pipe locations to a more logical arrangement (based upon being a thermosyphon machine). The pre-infusion on my machine seems to come from then matching the vibe pump to the group head. At least I would like to beleive that it was intentional. They make a rotary pump version for thos countries with 220v. However then you have to get into gluicfer valves etc, to tune the pre-infussion. FYI, I use pre-infussion in the term of dwell time (aka lag) the the pf before the coffee appears, not the automatic pump-on, pump-off, pump-on method. <Snip> -- There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
Yup, my bad - I went to type 'E69' group, thinking it was the later, commercial group - but realised that was both wrong, and potentially inflamatory, and didn't go back to change it. But, in any case you got the same group as used in the 'big' machines and it's pretty good. As Mr Bullfrog croaked out, with a vibe pump the pre-infusion comes from the pump's pressure ramp-up, rotary pump machines need a flow-restricting valve. While in the Existential sense Mr. B is correct in calling it a 'G-lucifer' valve, since on a hot machine it lies immediately behind the Satan-stat (Ow!) and directly below the Beeza-boiler (Eeech! Awk! Arrrgh!) in a purely Lexical space, it is called a 'Gicleur' valve - which is French for "Poorly adapted carburetor part...." Cheers Jim
Jim Mitchell wrote: <Snip> Gee!! I'm a Poet & I don't know it!! :-D <Snip> -- There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
Dennis Parham wrote: <Snip> It barely fits under the counter, and yes I use a lm pf. you might have to change the pf gasket to either a thinner or thicker one. <Snip> -- There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
I've been out of town, so I'm a bit late in this thread, but GREAT buy. I won an auction for perhaps an identical machine (C84A/1) a few weeks ago, but it was in awful condition. Handfuls of scale all the way up to the input hose. Burnt-out element, you name it. It took another $200 in parts and such but now it's making incredible espresso. I am still learning about flushing and all that, but the espresso is a lot better than with my old Silvia. It IS enormous! It's missing a top grate, but the top piece of an oven broiler pan set works okay for now. I've got a minor leak in the group valve that only leaks 20-30 ml when I turn the machine off and it cools down. That is a complicated assemblage of springs and valves and gaskets. Otherwise, I had to "bastard fit" a BSPP to an NPT fitting at the water inlet. It's leaking very slightly, and I run this thing off a water bottle, so I have to reprime it once a week or so because of that. I am pretty sure I'll eventually have to braze or solder the adapter, but I don't know how. I've already tried ordering a proper adapter, but it didn't quite work out. Anyways, enjoy it! -Paul On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Dennis Parham wrote: <Snip>
<Snip> Why not use tap the BSPP hole to NPT and be done with it?
On Mar 21, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Dan Bollinger wrote: <Snip> It's 3/4", and I don't have a tap set :) I'm actually not sure how best to solve my problem--What I have is a 1/4" stainless hose which fits into a 1/4" male x 3/4" female adapter (all BSPP, I think). I'm sick of spending money on adapters and such that don't quite work. I am 100% sure that if I ordered an adapter online it wouldn't work, since I don't understand all the plumbing standards all that well. Also, there is no place around here that stocks copper or teflon gaskets, which makes life all the more interesting. Is silver solder reasonably easy to use to solder BSPP to NTP? Thanks, -Paul
well Im still waiting for mine to arrive... :D but the description was that is works perfectly and tested... I did notice on the pic there is a front knob missing.. and I think it has something to do with refilling the tank.... Im sure Ill be asking some questions when it arrives.. lol But I do think.. hey.. if you get a fully commercial machine for lets say the 500$ mark.. it would seem well worth a couple hundred extra to make sure it is working perfectly! at least we didn't pay that extra 3000 for it new...lol Dennis Parham On Mar 22, 2006, at 12:05 AM, Paul Sack wrote: <Snip>