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Topic: Vac Pot - Backup with Cory-style Rod? (37 msgs / 994 lines)
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9) From: Jason Brooks
Since I have discovered the joy of my vacuum brewer, when time permits,
I've began the obsessive cya mode of thinking: can I go without it for a
week or more?  Answer: probably no.  So, with using a ~60 year old brewer,
you need contingency plans.
So, I've been looking at what's available.  The list:
Bodum Santos
Yama
Cona
First off, Cona's out of price range right now.
As for the Yama and Bodum, I have this concern: I like the glass rod of my
Cory for multiple reasons, not least of which is that it is glass = no
flavor added.  I also know that some lister recently mentioned that s/he
imploded the bottom of a Yama with a Cory rod.  Are there other filter
options for either the Yama or Bodum that won't equal a trip to the ER for
stitches?  Would a Cory rod work in the Bodum (I know the Yama's a risk)?
Not wanting to invest more in a dried-up gasket Cory, I seek the wisdom of
the collective.
Thanks,
Jason
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10) From: Brett Mason
Hi Jason,
My experience is that $35 for a Cory and $8 for a new gasket from
Foodservicedirect makes for an effective backup.  I am down to one Cory
vacpot right now, but seems I just buy another Cory....  I have been up to
three at one point...
Brett
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11) From: Jason Brooks
I was thinking that the FSD gaskets didn't quite work.  So, I suppose you
got yours in without issue?  My gasket recently popped off, but is still
pliable enough for frequent use.  My greater concern lately is stress on
the glass and a possible crack/fracture.
Thanks Brett.  I may be able to land a Cory for less at a local junk shop,
if they still have them.
Jason
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12) From: Scot Murphy
On |Apr 6, at 11:56 AM|Apr 6, Jason Brooks wrote:
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I don't know if it will be helpful, but what I use in my Yama is a  
filter that came from a Hario. The Hario was a model unlike any  
since--flat-bottomed, maroon and gold trim, and with a plastic filter  
somewhat like a Cory rod. It was a disk with axle-like protrusions on  
either side at the center, and at the end of one protrusion (which  
was maybe an inch long) was attached a spring, a hook, and a chain.  
The disk sat in the upper bowl, the lower protrusion went into the  
glass stem, the spring-and-hook assembly came down. You pulled gently  
with the chain to latch the hook over the lower end of the glass  
stem. This is somewhat like the Silex Lox-In rod.
I find it doesn't affect the flavor of my coffee, but I am afraid  
that unless it is in aluminum or cooked over time in stainless steel,  
I don't really taste the impurities of metal (or plastic). I might  
suggest something along these lines. What I wonder is, is it possible  
to jury-rig something like this? That is, find a plastic disk of some  
width (say, a very wide button?), hook to it a small, narrow spring,  
and then a length of chain and some kind of bent wire for a hook?  
After all, we're the people who came up with HG/DB, SC/TO, PID'd  
variac'd modded Popperies with dataloggers, and so on. Surely we can  
fabricate a filter?
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13) From: Brett Mason
I boiled the gasket to soften it, then put it on while hot. I then ran mayb=
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10 pots, heating, then cooling, to help with the "fit"...
It gets there, took a while...
Brett
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14) From: Jason Brooks
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Which model did you put it on?
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15) From: Angelo
I would go with the Yama. I believe it has a cloth filter. If you 
don't want to use that, you can get an all metal filter which is made 
for the Nicro. This can be found on FoodServiceDirect.
The only problem I've ever had with a vac pot was when I used a glass 
rod (Silex loc-in) in it. I therefore do not trust them and there's 
no reason for me to use them. All the other types of filters work fine...
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16) From: Angelo
Scott,
The filter you are describing sounds suspiciously like the one that 
comes with the Bodum stove-top model. The filter that came with my 
Hario was the metal/cloth filter - almost the same as the one that 
came with the Yama.
I find that most of these filters are interchangeable...In my drawer 
of filters, I couldn't tell you which  filter came with which pot. I 
just grab any one and use that...
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18) From: Woody DeCasere
I have a YAMA and the filter works great, i dont notice any residual
flavors, you keep the cloth filter soaking in the fridge in a container i
think this helps to keep it fresh.
I would go with the YAMA as the price is right.
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19) From: Gary Townsend
Woody DeCasere  wrote:I have a YAMA and the filter works great, i dont
notice any residual flavors, you keep the cloth filter soaking in the fridg=
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in a container i think this helps to keep it fresh.I would go with the YAMA
as the price is right.
I'll vouch for the YAMA vacpot, there's a newer version out there of the 20
oz I've seen the advertised for $30.
I have a growing collection of vacpot's and filters ;-)
I find zero difference, taste-wise between glass and cloth filters. YMMV ;-=
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You can get new cloth filters 5 for $6. @ Sweet Maria's.
They are easily cleaned with dishsoap and a soft vegetable brush.
Bi-weekly, I'll use 1/4 tsp of cafiza and run it through a couple of brew
cycles, then rinse.
Keep it wet by soaking it in a cup of water, in the fridge between use.
My last filter lasted 6 month's before I changed it, and I brew at least 1
pot a day with it ;-)
I also *like* glass filters, but if they are broken then the guilt factor o=
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destroying another piece of coffee making history is lost. Something is jus=
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too cool about using an all glass 50+ year old vacpot on special occasions.
For everyday use, a 20 oz *modern* vacpot the guilt factor goes way down,
I've already dropped the bottom carafe onto a ceramic tile floor, and, well=
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the floor won that round, and I once again proved that gravity still works
pretty well, here on Earth. And it's also much easier getting replacement
parts for newer vacpots!
Gary
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20) From: Brett Mason
I've also found that granite and tile counters are not suitably matched for
a hot upper bowl - or lower bowl.  Proved it.  Bought a new vacpot. Learned
a lesson.
Brett
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21) From: Claus Thøgersen
Hi,
But where do you get such a thing, and it would be nice if you can list a
source that will deliver to Europe
Claus living in Denmark
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22) From: Brett Mason
You're stuck - I searched the international eBay sites...
None but in the US.
On the other hand, there are many ZASSENHAUS mills in Germany which cost
little there and a ton here...
Please let me know if you'd like to trade...
Brett
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23) From: Angelo
Dave,
I got mine when I bought a Nicro knock-off(say that 3X fast) at a 
restaurant supply house that caters to Asian restaurants in NYC. I 
just assumed (tsk,tsk) that since FSD sold that pot, they would have 
the filter...You could also use the Yama or Hario cloth filters in it..
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24) From: Angelo
Dave,
I did a little searching and came up with this:http://www.admiralcraft.com/pdf_upload/h-tabletop.pdfTowards the bottom, you'll find the pot and the filters (FIL_SS). 
Unfortunately, they seem to only be available in bulk. Maybe, you 
could beg them for a couple. They work in the glass pots, as well...
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25) From: Michael Wascher
I bought a Cory a while back. The FSD gasket was a perfect fit, an exact
replacement for my old one.
From the box & paperwork I would guess mine is late 50s or early 60s. Maybe
there was a design change at some time?
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26) From: Brett Mason
They call it
"Vacuum Coffee Maker Replacement Part"http://www.foodservicedirect.com/index.cfm/S/176/CLID/597/N/94786/Vacuum_Co=ffee_Maker_Replacement_Part.htm
Regards,
Brett
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27) From: Brett Mason
I had to boil mine to soften it, and then ran several water-only
cycles , adding a little pressure each time it was hot to help the
upper bowl to "seat" ... now it works terrific, but it didnt seem to
fit at first...
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28) From: Angelo
There are two items under that heading: the gasket (DCPLUCR) and the 
filter ( DCFILSS)
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29) From: Brett Mason
Good point Angelo...
Looks to me like the "rubber plug" is the one you want.  The "Filter
assembly" looks like one of those spring and thing assemblies used in
lieu of a Cory glass rod (but why?)...
Brett
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30) From: b cook
The Cory pots seems to be popular.  They seem very similar to a Bodum
Santos.  Is there any difference?  Why would one want a Cory over the
Santos?
brad
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31) From: Brett Mason
Bodum Santos is an electric, with automated controls...
Cory is (often) a glass pot, manually brewed over heat - you are
involved start to finish.
I have the Cory because I wanted to play with time and heat, to see
what I could get.
Many love the convenience of Bodum Santos.
Regards,
Brett
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32) From: Jason Brooks
Not to quibble Brett, but there are two Bodum Santos makers.  I had
thought that Bodum called one the Santos and the other the eSantos, but
alas, I was yet again wrong.  But you can get an electric Santos, or the
traditional set, where the master is involved, hands on, start to finish.
Reference:http://sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.vacuum.shtml#Bodum.SantosBrad,
    I've never used a Santos, but they seem to be basically the same as my
Cory, just using a different filter technique.
Jason
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33) From: Terry Stockdale
Bodum makes both an electric and a stove-top version.  The stovetop 
model is called the Bodum Santos.  The electric is called the Bodum 
Electric Santos.  They also make a mini=Electric model.
I use the stovetop model with a Cory rod.  Haven't tried the electric ones.
SM has the stovetop one on this page:http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.vacuum.shtmlAlso, at the bottom is a review of the Bodum Electric Santos.
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34) From: Gary Townsend
David Echelbarger wrote:
I have been really happy using the Corey Rod but was interested in the meta=
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filter because I wanted to take this unit camping and then don't' have to
worry so much about the rod -- plus I just wanted to see how it works --jus=
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curious to see what came with the pot originally since the one I got from
Ebay came with no filter whatsoever.
David,
The all metal stainless steel filter assembly comes with the Nicro stainles=
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steel vac pot.
Very common item, It's easy to clean, and durable. Great choice for travel =
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camping, although, I'd buy a 20oz ss vac pot if anyone made/ makes one, as
part of my coffee travel gear setup, as the large one works great...it's
just too large for a quick 20 oz thermos travel mug of coffee.I have a SS
french press setup, but I prefer the vac pot.
I use my Nicro vac pot every morning, instead of a coffee machine.
Virtually indestructible. I picked mine up at a local thrift shop for $2.55=
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the owner of the shop had no idea how to make coffee with it, and it had a
bad gasket.
What I did was scrub it clean, and went through a few of my old Silex glass
vac pots, that had pliable filters, but barely made good vacuum on the
original glass bowls. But the slightly different shape of the Nicro pot was
a *perfect fit* on one of the gaskets. I have several glass vac pots, I fin=
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gasket tip on, as I've been using it for about 3 months, and it works
perfectly, every morning @ 4:20 am.
There's No Way I'll go back to using a cheap coffee machine, have you ever
had an awesome cup of vac pot coffee for the drive to work? I make up a ful=
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pot, enough to fill up a 32oz stainless steel thermos, and a large ss
insulated travel mug. I share some of it with a few co-workers, and 1 dude
is having me roast up 2 #'s every week and *almost ready* to convert into
another home roaster...
Gary
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35) From: b cook
Yes, I was referring to the glass, stovetop Santos.  That's the one I have.
brad
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36) From: b cook
So you can install one of these cory rods into a bodum santos?  Is it easy
and what are the benefits?
brad
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37) From: Terry Stockdale
The Cory rod just sits in the top bowl.  It's large enough that it 
plugs the funnel from the top.  The Cory rod has a slight pebbled 
texture, which allows the coffee to be sucked back into the lower bowl.
Benefit -- cleaner coffee than the plastic disk, easier 
cleanup.  I've had far fewer stalls with the Cory rod than with the 
plastic disk.
Once I got mine, I haven't bothered using the plastic disk & spring again.
Terry
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