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Topic: Gene Cafe Torrent #2 (or 3 or 4) (47 msgs / 965 lines)
1) From: Aaron Peterson
All righty.  I've set up a torrent.  And I'm seeding.  If some other
folks would seed, that would be awesome!  People have downloaded about
10 Gb of genesis_roaster.mp4 from 148 unique IP addresses from my
webserver in the past 24 hours :-)  It's no problem, but I'd like to
share the load with some of you folks, hehe...http://fnlame.com/~whizzer/genesis_roaster.mp4.torrentAaron Peterson
Versailles, KY

2) From: Aaron Peterson
On 4/13/06, Aaron Peterson  wrote:
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Hahaha.  I just realized there's a "BitTorrent for Dummies" book available =
:-)
Aaron Peterson
Versailles, KY

3) From: Aaron Peterson
On 10/13/06, Jim Mitchell  wrote:
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You are speaking some foreign language to me.  I didn't understand any
of that :-)
I just removed the mp4 from being served directly by my web server,
sorry.  I'm set up to seed the torrent for 144 hours (6 days) at which
time I'll restart it seeding if need be.
Cheers!
Aaron Peterson
Versailles, KY

4) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
OK, I've downloaded genesis_roaster.mp4 from Aaron's previous link. Now 
what?
What are you people using to play an mpeg-4 movies? I've got a 
Windows2000 computer.
I've tried the free version of Quicktime, I've tried WinAmp, I've tried 
VideoReDoPlus without any success.
Dave S.
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5) From: Michael Dhabolt
Go to the Windows Update site and load the newest version of Windows
Media Player.
Mike (just plain)

6) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Have you actually tried this?
I ask that question because my computer is completely up-to-date 
according to the Windows update site.
I have Windows Media Player Version 9.00.00.3344.
In the list of compatible files, .mp4 is missing.
Dave S.
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7) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
Here's the link to Windows Media Player 10, the most recent version.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/mp10/default.aspxI don't know if this works with MP4 and have no info on it.  Older versions
liked to store personal data, don't know if it's still the case.
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Roasting in an SC/TO & i'Roast2
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8) From: Tom Bellhouse
Try RealPlayer.
Tom in GA

9) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Windows Media Player 10 only runs on Windows XP.
Is MP4 such a new format that it doesn't play on Win2K?
If so, why would that have been suggested to Tom as the format to use?
Dave S.
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10) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Did it work for you?
I won't allow anything from Real Audio on my working computer.
It's spyware.
Dave S.
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11) From: Brett Mason
Don't tell anyone...  Most everything from Microsoft is SLUGware...
Take the spy cause it works...
Brett
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12) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
Dave,
I agree with you about Real and feel the same about Win Media Player.
Here's a link to a "how to" convert MP4 to MP3, with links to shareware
converters.http://www.howtodothings.com/electronics/a1664-how-to-convert-mp4-to-mp3.ht=ml
The howtodothings site is OK - don't need to sign in, has good basic info.
I can't speak to the shareware they recommend.  I don't know anything about
it and haven't tried it.
Maybe someone on the list could convert it to MP3 for you and email it to
you, if you prefer not to download unknown software.
Brent
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13) From: Tom Bellhouse
Yep, it worked.  I figure if anybody wants to watch my web movements
nowadays, they'll have to get in line behind the Feds.
Tom in GA

14) From: Aaron
Brett get real alternative, it is a program that plays all real media 
formats  except for the very VERY old ones on that old codec, and has no 
spyware / adware on it.  It will also play a bunch of other formats too 
including the mp4 that some folks obviously missed my post where I said 
to try changing the suffix to mpg if mp4 is not working....
aaron

15) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
I wish you would limit your advice to what you have tested.
I copied the .mp4 file over to my laptop, which runs WindowsXP.
Then I downloaded Windows Media Player 10.
It does not support .mp4 files.
Dave S.
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16) From: raymanowen
Got three vacuum cleaners on my box of 1's and 0's, and Every time I have
loaded apps from Big Software- all three eventually go nuts. I hate it when
I load something interesting and my bilge pumps all run.
If it won't play in Peoria, I don't need it und zum Teufel damit.
Prost und viel Spass -RayO, aka Opa!

17) From: Tom Ogren
Hi Folks,
I'm a new list member and a first time poster...As a bit of a geek (tech and
coffee) I recommend going tohttp://www.videolan.org/vlc/and downloading
VLC. When other media players won't play a file, this one almost always It
has more video and audio codecs than you can shake a stick at, even the
proprietary ones ;) Just click on the Windows icon from the VLC download
page, then choose the first download location (I think it's in France...),
accept the default settings upon installation, and open any file using VLC
from now on. I promise you'll like it. This whole process will not take
three minutes if you have broadband, so just go for it!
My torrent for the Gene file has been sitting at 20+% for a while, but I
suspect it will be done by tomorrow morning when I get up. It takes faith on
the part of the torrent swarm participants to make torrents actually work,
so don't remove a torrent right away when it gives you errors. Sit tight and
read the list or roast a bean or somethin' (well...maybe don't roast at
midnight, but...just be patient because your presence in the swarm is part
of what makes torrents work faster.
I've been roasting now for about three weeks and have some really grassy
ones and some really nice ones. I started with a free Sunbeam (Stir crazy
style) 1000W I found in my mother's attic (made some great baked beans with
it too) and now I'm using a Poppery2 with favorable results (need a
variac/100'extension cord though because I can't get above 5 minutes on the
Harrar and I want more chocolaty smoothness). Although I'm really enjoying
Lot 30 though (It's berrylicious and the chocolate seems to come on stronger
as it cools!) I had it today as the first half of a Mocha Java. It elevated
to greatness some boring Sumatra I got from 'somewhere else' (before I
discovered SM)...I was blind but now I see.
Sorry so wordy but it's good to be aboard. 
Tom in VA

18) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Changing the extension (suffix if you like) makes no difference to 
Windows Media Player nor to the free version of Quicktime.
Dave S.
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19) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Thanks for the suggestion, Tom. This program actually claims to play 
.mp4 files.
But it won't play this one.
Perhaps the file I downloaded is corrupt.
I think it's time to give this up.
Dave S.
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20) From: Aaron Peterson
On 4/14/06, Maryann & Dave Schellenberg  wrote:
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Unfortunately, I don't have a machine at home with Windows on it.  But
here is a link you might try:http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/format/codecdownload.=aspx
Cheers,
Aaron Peterson
Versailles, KY

21) From: Aaron Peterson
On 4/14/06, Aaron Peterson  wrote:
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To be clear, I mean unfortunate that I can't test my own advice before
I offer it to you :-)
Aaron Peterson
Versailles, KY

22) From: Tom Ogren
Yeah, file corruption is sounding like a likely cause of your woes here. I'm
hitting the sack myself. VLC is usually my last hope. Sorry it didn't work
for you. But hey, there's good coffee to be had in the morning.
-TO

23) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
It was worth a try.
I see that Microsoft says they are including a codec for mp4 in that 
download.
Didn't make any difference to the way Media Player works on that file, 
though.
Perhaps tomorrow I'll try the Asureus route again, and see if I get a 
playable file this time.
I appreciate your advice, AND I appreciate your qualifier.
Dave S.
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24) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
That was it all right. There are enough peers tonight that downloading 
the torrent went quite quickly.
The new file is exactly the same size as the previous one.
The difference is that this one will play in VLC and in the free version 
of Quicktime.
It still will not play in Windows Media Player, version 9 or 10, 
regardless of the extension.
Dave S.
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25) From: Michael Dhabolt
A fresh download of the freebie Quicktime plays it OK.  It worked
first time in my Windows Media Player, I think I have a bunch of extra
codecs in Windows Media Player - - don't have the faintest idea what
they are.
Mike (just plain

26) From: Angelo
I use VLC Media Player...http://tinyurl.com/ffbd6It's open source, free and seems to play any format thrown at it
A+
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27) From: Aaron
Tom  excellent advice on vid lan... but even vid lan with its new update 
can have probs sometimes.... id recommend it above most others to be 
honest and if you install the AC3 codec on your machine you should be 
good to go.
I  use vidlan myself here and what that wont do,  real alternative 
will.  the entire spectrum is covered.
aaron

28) From: Aaron
Other aaron.... sometimes we can't test our own advice, because what you 
stated, we are not home, or whatever...
other times, when it comes to computer stuff, what may work for you, 
might not work for someone else, because of different hardware etc 
etc..  so you may have very well DONE DID test it but it still won't 
work for someone else.... that will not stop them from crying about it.
When it comes to computers, the best advice is, offer hints, if it works 
fine, if it don't well you tried....   even identical systems can behave 
differently because of people setting off spy ware on their system, or 
java 'bomblets' when their teenager goes to a site he should not really 
be at and then something installs on mommys computer....just as one of 
many examples of what can go wrong on a system...
When it comes to software and computers, NO there is NOT an 'all 
purpose' works 100% of the time thing out there.   so for those who are 
havnig trouble,  don't jump down someones throat who is trying to offer 
advice because your stuff don't work... it's not their fault.
and let me finish with a personal opinion... windows media player is a 
horrid program, a resource hog that dont work half the time.
stick with some of the other programs offered throughout this topic and 
you will do much better
aaron

29) From: Steve Hay
On 4/13/06, Maryann & Dave Schellenberg  wrote:
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you try VLC for windows.  It is
somewhat experimental software, but it is freely available and will play a
wide variety of files.  VLC stands for Videolan Client.http://www.videolan.org/vlc/--
Steven Hay
hay.steve -AT- gmail.com
Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural
numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural
number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."

30) From: J.B.
Just got the file - dl went really fast !
What shall I say - great movie ! - it's nice to see the gene cafe in 
action instead of all those still pictures online.
thx a lot
Jan
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31) From: Marc
I've been using "Media Player Classic" released under the GPL license at
Sourceforge:http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303From their notes:
Media Player Classic is the perfect substitute for Windows Media Player.
Estetically is identical to version 6.4 and has the same lightness in
terms of ram occupation, but it has much more usefull functions (see
"Features").
That's what Microsoft should have done since a long time instead
focusing on skins, favourites and similar sillyness..
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I use it on my W2K computer and it plays MP4 file without problems, except
for some random jitters but that could have been the vidographer or the
file...
-Marc

32) From: Steven Van Dyke
Thanks Tom!
Nothing I had handy on my computer would play it but VLC worked great!
Always good to have another tool.
Oh, and I figured out one thing from the video - that 'swinging door' isn't
a door.  It's to wipe the bigger pieces of chaff off the exit screen.
Enjoy!
Steve :->

33) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
The other Mike (Michael McTryk) is busy trying to find out where to get 
free CODECs so that WindowsMediaPlayer will work.
He thinks his works (on one computer) because he installed Nero on it.
Mike, I'm sorry I slammed your advice last night.
When you suggested using WindowsMediaPlayer, and it wouldn't work for 
me, I assumed you were suggesting something you hadn't tried yourself.
My error.
This business of CODECs is giving us different results, and it's 
difficult to know why.
I downloaded VideoInspector from http://www.kcsoftwares.com/index.php?downloadOn my computer it shows:
Thanks for your help.
Dave S.
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34) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Already suggested by Tom Ogren.
But you're right - it works.
Thanks
Dave S.
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35) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Both Media Player Classic (MPC) and Windows Media Player (WMP) will say 
they are opening the media for about a minute, and then they come back 
with "Cannot render the file".
Could it be that you have installed the CODECs from Nero on your computer?
Dave S.
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36) From: Aaron
yes it was a great movie.   I don't want to sound like I am complaining 
about it, but it obviously was put together with some sort of excellent 
editing software....  Tom, next time can you please amp the voice 
channel just a bit, that way YOU are the center of the audio attention 
and are much more easilier heard over the music or the machine 
rattling.....  just a suggestion for an already great flick.
Aaron

37) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
I just tried it again, after installing the free CODECs at http://www.free-codecs.com/3ivx_download.htmthat Michael McTryk found 
and suggested to me.
Now it works.
Thanks
Dave S.
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38) From: Brett Mason
Keep hanging in there folks, the business of codecs is enough to drive
ayone crazy...  I am certain there is opportunity for great lawsuits
against people who make it easy, by those who wish it to be really
profitable.
Sorry for my rant against Microsoft - they don't own my home yet,
they're just working hard at it...
Brett
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39) From: Brett Mason
Is "Torrent" a new coffee?  WHere is it from?  I notice we've had a
couple conversations about it, and at least one conversation around
coffee....
Brett
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40) From: Aaron Peterson
On 4/14/06, Brett Mason  wrote:
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If it is a new coffee, can I download more than I upload?
Aaron Peterson
Versailles, KY

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I'll seend you both some!!
ginny
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42) From: Michael Dhabolt
Dave S
No offense taken.
I've always felt that the more foreign software loaded on a Windoze
machine the more fragile the installation becomes, so I try to opt for
the native Microsoft apps first.  My son is a 3D artist and was
recently playing with my laptop and showing me some of his work.  He
is painfully aware of my somewhat severe attitude about downloading
and installing software on my machine so I think he installed a bunch
of codecs to allow Media Player to work with non-native file types.
Currently quaffing a restritto of Harrar Lot 30 / Brazil (50/50) and loving=
 it.
Mike (just plain) windoze minimalist

43) From: Paul Sack
The technical term for the phenomenon is "bit rot" and it seems to 
apply to Windoze, Macs, and Linux nowadays.  ;)
Quoting Michael Dhabolt :
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44) From: Aaron Peterson
On 4/14/06, pchforever  wrote:
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Gimme da hookup :-)
Aaron Peterson
Versailles, KY

45) From: Rudy Ramsey
For me, Windows Media Player reported that it doesn't support this file
type. However, when I then allowed it to try anyway, in response to the
prompt, it worked fine.
Rudy

46) From: rnkyle
media player worked fine for me also
RK

47) From: Jim Mitchell
Yeah - it's called 'Brit Torrent'
-this from my Aussie friends ...
OK, you've now got more seeds than a Michocan Ounce ...
Cheers
Jim


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