Tom, I know that you are inundated with ideas and info about forums, lists, video codecs, torrents etc. etc. etc. I really think that an answer to the list and forum problem might be Google Groups. Yes I know ... Google is taking over the world but it might be worth your time to take a quick look. I personally don't have a lot of experience with it but my son who is a big lister absolutely loves the functionality and the sort of marriage of the forum and list idea.http://groups.google.com/intl/en/googlegroups/about.htmlThe following two paragraphs are taken from the above link: 4. How do I set up my own Google Group? Go to the beta homepage for our updated product, Google Groups, and click on the "Create a new group" link in the menu on the left side of the screen. Group creation is a two-step process. The first involves naming your group, creating a group email address, and setting your group's privacy level. The second step involves adding people to your group. For this step, you'll need a list of email addresses of the people you'd like to invite. Once you've finished adding people to your group, you're done. You can also customize your group. For example, a group can be restricted (only people who've been invited can read and participate in discussions) or public (anyone can read and search group content). You can also create custom types like an announcement-only group. Finally, group members can choose how they'd like to be notified of new activity in their groups. For important groups, members may choose to receive an email message every time a new message is posted to the group. For less time sensitive groups, users may choose to receive a daily summary email or simply read the group on the web. 5. Why would I want to move the mailing list I manage to Google Groups? Google Groups is a simple and reliable service for managing and archiving mailing lists. In addition to basic mailing list functionality, all your mailing list content will be stored and searchable on the Web. Unlike other free mailing list services, Google Groups offers generous storage limits and only displays relevant text ads (never banners or pop-ups). To move your mailing list to Google Groups, create a new group by clicking "Create a new group" in the menu on the left side of the screen. First, name your group and fill out the other required info. Next, add the email addresses of the people in your group. Select the option to either automatically add members or send invitations. Copying and pasting an existing list of email addresses into this form is one easy way of populating your group. Once you're ready, click "Done" and notifications or invitations to join your group will be sent out momentarily. Michael McTryk The Outback Roasterhttp://members.shaw.ca/mctryk/
Hi, again, Michael. Someone else has suggested Yahoo Groups, but I find reading messages there to be awkward, and really dislike the advertising that intrudes. My main issue with Google Groups is that you must use a working email address to post there. To me that means being inundated with spam. Sure, on this list we also use our real email addresses, but it's not as open to the public, so it doesn't get harvested for email addresses. That's my two cents worth on the subject. Dave S. Michael McTryk wrote: <Snip> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/309 - Release Date: 4/11/2006
Hi Michael - i have been playing with google groups. in fact, go ahead and join Home Roast List group and check it out. I can receive the emails I post via the web browser, but my posts sent via email are getting rejected. in any case, I think it is much better than Yahoo Groups, which makes you look at a lot of ads... If you join the group, and are able to send a post via email , let me know Tom <Snip> -- "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters" Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting - Tom & Maria http://www.sweetmarias.com Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com
Google groups suck. I say that as a lover of most things Google. But they destroyed usenet (dejanews, we miss you) and actually seem to have fostered the notion that anything found at Google groups is, well, "Google groups" -- as if usenet was no more. It's bad enough that venerable usenet was turned into a mess riddled with problems they still haven't fixed in their archives, much less their postin= g functionality. That they're responsible for veritable disinformation is inexcusable. Yahoo groups sucks too, for different reasons. I don't use the forum for posting, I use the mailing list. I'll throw in my vote for sticking with the mail. Maybe I should check out the forums, though. Dunno. -- Scott On 4/14/06, Maryann & Dave Schellenberg wrote: <Snip>
Just joined the Google list and sent a test email. No joy. So far the list has not incremented the number of members either. Perhaps there is a delay? Michael (yes, another one) Wade
I know this has been discussed to death. But I would sooner drink Maxwell House than do Google Groups. It's nothing but purtified usenet, with all the accompanying spam that comes with it. I have posted four or five messages to alt.coffee (using another account) in the past two months. Tha= t account currently has 2,863 spam messages. And nothing else. Just one cantankerous ol' coffee drinker's opinion. Brent My coffee is better than it tastes
On 4/14/06, Brent - SC/TO Roasting wrote: <Snip> l <Snip> Why the hatred for Google Groups? The way I see it, Google probably saved DejaNews/Usenet from going away altogether, and they provide some way to at least access it.. You can complain about bugs and such, but at least its there and somewhat working.. I'm also unsure why people are so upset about Google Groups in terms of the interface? People have been top-posting and stuff for years; I don't think Google really had much effect on that, excep= t to maybe give more dumb people access to a public repository. My 2c. -- Steven Hay hay.steve -AT- gmail.com Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."
I met have set "new members - approve posts" ... let me go approve posts and change that setting. Tom <Snip> -- "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters" Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting - Tom & Maria http://www.sweetmarias.com Thompson Owen george_at_sweetmarias.com Sweet Maria's Coffee - 1115 21st Street, Oakland, CA 94607 - USA phone/fax: 888 876 5917 - tom_at_sweetmarias.com
I can't say that it's hatred. Just a strong, informed preference. Usenet/GG does serve a purpose. If you don't mind getting spam such as I described, then it's fine. I for one would prefer the closed-list approach if it means no spam. Such as thi= s mailman format. -- Brent My coffee is better than it tastes
On 4/14/06, Brent - SC/TO Roasting wrote: <Snip> r <Snip> his <Snip> I tend to agree I like the privacy of a list like this. It acts as a kind of filter, which can be nice. I tried being a regular on a.c and it was just too darn much information, even if there was some interesting discussion in there somewhere. I am just puzzled at some's absolute HATRED of Google Groups.. Maybe its because I was never heavy/deep into usenet, but when Google did their thing= , I was kind of happy about it because (I forget the reason) I wasn't sure about the future of DejaNews and whether that info would be kept at all. -- Steven Hay hay.steve -AT- gmail.com Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."
I've complained about this for years and it's recently gotten even worse. Until people can learn to post in plain text only, this list is virtually unintelligible. Google Groups, Yahoo Groups, vBulletin, IT JUST DOESN"T MATTER ANYMORE! Let's please move it to some place not dated in early 25 year old technology. This list is awesome, it's just too bad that it's almost impossible to read.
Martin, I used to feel the same way. Another list member suggested that I try Google Mail just for this list and sent me an invite, and instructions to change my preferences athttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettingsto individual emails and direct it to the new gmail account. It is really a great way to view the list, it does as good a job of threading as any reader I've ever used. If you're interested I'll send you an invite? Mike (just plain)
Hey! We haven't had a good hot discussion about top-posting on this list for about two years. JavaJerry RK Drum roasting (and top-posting) in Chesapeake, VA Steve Hay wrote: <Snip>
I like top posting or at least a small snip from the orginal post and reply underneath. RK
On 4/18/06, rnkyle wrote: <Snip> ly <Snip> Ick. Aaron "Purist" Peterson Versailles, KY
<Snip> reply <Snip> Me too! I'm not too S-Ick. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! Got Grinder? Serious Coffee demands Serious Grinder- why blow it? On 4/18/06, Aaron Peterson wrote: <Snip> --
On 4/18/06, rnkyle wrote: <Snip> ly <Snip> I think I misread this earlier. Or perhaps just stopped reading after "I like top posting" Anyway, I'm all about the snippage of extraneous crap with a short quote of what's pertinent to the reply and the reply underneath. That is very readable and efficient I think. RK, now that you have my seal of approval: Go forth and prosper :-) Aaron "Should read the whole post if he's a purist" Peterson Versailles, KY