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Topic: Where is Mike McKoffee (48 msgs / 1381 lines)
1) From: Barbara Leazier
Where has Mike been?  I really have missed his post.  I learned so much fro=
m him!=

2) From: Brett Mason
I think I/we tweaked him too much and he went away - apologies -
didn't mean to do so...
Brett
On 4/14/06, Barbara Leazier  wrote:
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Regards,
Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
   Zassman

3) From: Sue
Many of the old regulars are either gone or rarely posting....Mike McKoffee=
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Wandering John, Pecan Jim, Gene Smith, Rick Farris.......and others. I miss
their input as well!
Sue
On 4/14/06, Brett Mason  wrote:
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4) From: Jim Mitchell
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Sadly, I fear something else has happened to Mike beyond leaving the =
list in a hissy-fit, as he's pretty much dropped off the face of the =
earth - missing from other lists, several web sites, and unresponsive to =
Email.
I do hope that all will end up well and he'll return - but have no other =
leads.
Cheers
Jim
  On 4/14/06, Barbara Leazier  wrote:
  >  Where has Mike been?  I really have missed his post.  I learned so =
much 
  > from him!

5) From: Barry Luterman
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I've been thinking of leaving too.
The flame wars are too much.If it weren't for the input of 1 or 2 other  =
list members and Tom's occasional inside info to the list I would have =
been long gone too.
Brett to apologize smugly after the fact  does nothing to repair the =
damage it only acts to alienate the few remaining members who have =
expertise.I notice Alchemist John is gone also and with him all further =
talk of a PNWG in June.

6) From: Brett Mason
Hi Barry,
You're probably right.
All the times I have said a ZASS is GOOD, I was probably mistaken.  We
all know the PC line is that a Zass is bad, and we should stf up.
I don't own an iRoast - and so I have stayed out of those.  WOuld you
have preferred different?
I made my own drum roaster - is Ron Kyles the only acceptable drum roaster?
We had tornadoes in the Cedar Rapids local area last night, but no
TORRENTS.  I know I should have seeded something (isn't that rape n
another dsistrict?)
So I suppose my posts are probably way off topic.
And my apology should really be that this is a =dialogue, with much to
offer.  So far I have offered Cory rods, and espresso machine, a
library, a drum.  I guess I should contribute something to the list?
If anyone is sad that I don't walk the party line, well, I was born
with a brain...  I guess I owe it to my creator to use it.
OK ALL, blast off as you will.
Don't know what happened to Mike.  Hope he is well.
Brett
I apologize for sticking up for the Starbucks maanger who stipulated
her 180 degree bwer was the hottest brewer on the market.
All of my posts have been on the wrong side of what the
neo-nazi-coffee-p.c. list says is right.  So, I will be smug.
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Regards,
Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
   Zassman

7) From: J.W.Bullfrog
Sue wrote:
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i thought mm was on his own coffee list, Pecan Jim & Wandering John got 
tired of the bickering and left. I thought Rick F posted in the last 
month, Zara is still around, Jeff B. occasionally lurkes. Me, I'm active 
for a while, and then go back to lurk. i think I've been on the list for 
close to 5 years.
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There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers 
exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will 
instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more 
bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

8) From: Dean
Sad to say, I'm kinda in the same boat.
Not that I'm a frequent contributor, my roaster is a bit of an oddball 
(I use a Rosto)  and I'm not usually one for the me-too posts. 
The problem might also include burnout--a lot of new roasters asking the 
same old questions, and the more-seasoned folks getting bored.  Dunno.
Maybe some of these have been banished for too-frequent off-topic posting?
If any of these folks are just lurking, trying to stay above the fray 
I's like to say:  "thanks" to MikeM for the Rosto related posts over the 
last couple of years, to the Wandering Curmudgeon and others below, 
Oaxaca C and many others for the coffee education.  And thanks to Tom 
for ignoring all the bullsh*t that goes on and keeping this terrific 
information-exchange medium going (tho I would not object to a bit more 
active moderation for some of the egregious OT)
Dean
Roasting with a Rosto (actually 2) brewing with POC Auto-Drip & a QM 
Anita and loving the results\
In da weeds in Iowa
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9) From: Sue
Hi Ben,
I don't think Rick Farris has posted since before Christmas. I hope he is
doing o.k.  While still posting, some of the previously more active
contributors (like yourself, Alchemist John, and John Blumel for a few
examples)  are less active, and some of the other folks are just not active
at all! I  have learned so much from all of you over the last few years tha=
t
I just hate to see things change! I know, change can be good, and many of
the newer people to the list have a lot to contribute as well. I would just
prefer to hear from everyone, somewhat peacefully (although I do enjoy a
good civil debate)!
Sue
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10) From: raymanowen
"a good civil debate"
Sue, on wings of Silicon and 3.3 volts, one has to go for the Gusto. This
box only knows "Yes," "Maybe," and "No." Its fans are all at Idle if the
debate is to be civil. I like to hear them spool up once in a while...
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?

11) From: Aaron
it was written:
I've been thinking of leaving too.
The flame wars are too much.If it weren't for the input of 1 or 2 other  
list members and Tom's occasional inside info to the list I would have 
been long gone too.
Brett to apologize smugly after the fact  does nothing to repair the 
damage it only acts to alienate the few remaining members who have 
expertise.I notice Alchemist John is gone also and with him all further 
talk of a PNWG in June.
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Ok barry, and you bringing this up in this manner does exactly what to 
'repair the damage and not alienate folks further' ??
How does your  'rubbing ones nose in it'  make the situation any better?
Also, for the record, I believe that EVERY person on this list, has 
expertise, in one fashion or another, each person has expertise in some 
aspect of coffee roasting, even if its just, what kind of coffee do they 
like.  and YES even the new folks have a valueable input.   To claim 
that only a 'few' do, is kind of elitist in itself and kind of what you 
are complaining about is it not? 
Aaron

12) From: raymanowen
It was written:
valueable
It wasn't, but should have been written thus:
valuable.
Vcc=0.0 now

13) From: Gary Bennett
On 4/15/06, Brett Mason  wrote:
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Hello Brett,
You miss the point - which is that a number of your posts contain
offensive nonsense or unkind sarcasm.
Gary

14) From: Ed Needham
I don't plan on leaving.
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Ed Needham®
"to absurdity and beyond!"
ed at homeroaster dot com
(include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters)
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15) From: Brett Mason
Offensive nonsense means either
  a. you didn't understand - or
  b. I didn't articulate.
I'll take that criticism, but point out that every post I have made
has had a reason behind it.  Sometimes I push the absurd, or take an
argument to its end just to show the fallacy or error in the
discussion.
  (I admit the support of the Starbucks manager, and lack of support
for Lance Armstrong are both un-American, in-correct, and plain
offensive to the players on this list)
   YEP - that's an example.
I think the unkind sarcasm must have been misunderstood, because I
have not tried to be unkind.  There is a problem with offering another
piece of information - the risk of it not being what people want to
hear.  "Zassenhaus mills are incredible, and can even be used for good
espresso."  Yep, there's another one.
I would recommend we publish a list of acceptable stances, and
knowledge that is desired.  This will allow the rest of us to know
what we can say and what we cannot say.  Subsequently, I won't spend
time recommending a stainless steel skillet for roasting large batches
over a side-burner (because the steel wok is really the only way to
roast over a flame - and it has to be the right thickness of steel if
i recall.)
Darn it - I went sarcastic again.  Is there a Chamomile Tea brewers
list that is more peacable - maybe I should join that.  But you know,
I probably will use the wrong tea spoon or heat the water in a
politically unacceptable pot, and you know what's gunna happen.
Lance is my hero,
Brett
  Who has never been boxed or even warned on this list...
  Zassman - yeah it really can be used for such!
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Regards,
Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
   Zassman

16) From: Paul Goelz
At 12:38 AM 4/15/2006, you wrote:
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FWIW (not much) I have not found the flame wars to be much of a 
nuisance.  You can almost always tell from the subject line if a post 
is worth reading.  And since Eudora sorts alphabetically, all like 
posts are together.  I simply skip and delete the flame wars and it 
is as if they never happened.
I am happy with my choice of beans and roasting method and don't do a 
lot of experimentation.  But I do love to read posts from those who 
do.  So I have no intention of leaving.
Paul
Paul Goelz
Rochester Hills, MI
paul at pgoelz dot comhttp://www.pgoelz.com

17) From: Jeffrey Bair
Perosnally, I've been close to leaving many times. Mostly I'm quiet because
I don't have much to contribute, but I try to offer perspective on the rare
occasion that I have any.
But, in the end, the information I gain here is well worth all of the BS "m=
e
too" and "that sounds great" garbage. I don't mind the repetivite newbie
posts, In the brief year I've been here, it's almost fun to watch the cycle=
s
as new people flow in asking the same questions that I did many, many month=
s
ago and I'm sure many did before me. I'm no expert now, but there were grea=
t
people then and I think there are lots of great people now to keep helping
new rosters along
So, I just scan through and delete what obviously has nothing to with my
personal interests - software, political bantering, how to reconnect the
flux capacitor to a nuclear whatchamacalit, etc. And I truly, thoroughly
enjoy the majority of the postings about peoples experiences with different
varietals and different roast methods. I've probably developed more as a
roaster in one year thanks to this list than many would without the list
over a much greater period of time.
And then there's the fool proof gmail filters for the posters that just
never seem to bring anything that's even worth looking at and deleting : )
A call to arms - those of you who really care about Tom and Marias coffee,
care about roasting, and love the occasional intellectual conversation that
takes place here don't quit! Please! Some of us out here still value you,
but we wouldn't mind if you spared us the non-coffee stuff like real estate
adds, political quotes, and general silliness. ebay listing reports, et all=
.
So, for one time only I'll adopt the signuatre style of many others here:
Jeff "seeker of coffee roasting knowledge and master of the email delete
button" Bair
P.S. I have actually been asked to apologize on this list for suggesting
that we keep our conversation focused on coffee and coffee roasting and mak=
e
an open, public, and direct response to those who continue to try to use th=
e
list for other reasons.It's even suggested that I'm a bad religious person
of low character because I'm not willing to turn the other cheek and be
tolerant of pointless, unfounded, illiterately presented political
blathering. Don't lose sight of the fact there are those here that really
believe that this is a free, open forum to discuss politics, religion, and
their views of how to treat one another. If we let them, they will run us
off. And of course they are the ones that will stay until the servers melt
and do everything they can to run the rest of us off, while those who
actually are interested in coffee continue to disappear. And will offer tha=
t
apologize the day Tom and Maria suggest that I'm off the market.
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18) From: DJ Garcia
I mostly lurk. I'll say something when I feel I may be able to add
something new that may contribute to a thread, but that's not often. I'm
usually not much of a conversationalist, online or off ... call me a
hermit.
DJ

19) From: J.W.Bullfrog
Sue wrote:
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I understand. I am in email contact with WJ daily, and via phone 1 -2 a 
month. After so many years its interesting to see see the newbies 
discover what we have, and they bring some new insights to the table. 
however, what really keeps you around is hearing from old friends.
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There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers 
exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will 
instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more 
bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

20) From: Aaron
Thank you for the sermon Jeffry I didnt realize it was sunday already
you mention this:
Don't lose sight of the fact there are those here that really believe
that this is a free, open forum to discuss politics, religion, and*
their views of how to treat one another*
emphasis is mine.
isn't this exactly what you are doing though with this post, reiterating
on how YOU think people should behave?  and this specific post really
isn't about coffee either now is it?
I will also disagree with your plea for folks to stop with the E bay
postings?
Why?  because YOU don't like them?   Tom and Maria don't sell
everything, there are items you can not get there, but you can get them
on E bay, and yes they ARE coffee related, so technically, they are more
on topic than some of the other stuff that you consider allowable that
is less on topic.  If they bother you so much, perhaps you may want to
tweak up those mail filters you love so much.
All is not lost however, I DO agree with you on an item.   Folks
shouldn't quit the list.  If they are intolerant of opposing views,
can't handle controversy, or just unable to handle another person, then
yes, delete topics they don't want, or filter out people they don't
like.  I do realize that this last sentence now makes this another 'mee
too' post so I hope that doesn't ruin your day.
In closing, contrary to your predictions of Sweet Marias impending doom
if everyone dont change their ways (yourself excluded of course), I
don't think that the earth is going to go spinning off it's axis and
crashing into the sun, hence causing Tom and Maria to go out of business
just because a few folks quit a coffee list.  Last time I checked, their
business was selling coffee, not babysitting a mailing list, so even
though some folks may quit, I have a sneaky feeling the are still buying
coffee and related supplies from tom.
Aaron 'ive given up sarcasm for lent', the lists pain in the ASCII

21) From: Angelo
Er,... what does this have to do with coffee...or Mike???
A+
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22) From: Angelo
Offensive to whom? I don't find his posts "offensive" (sorry, Brett). 
Offensivness is in the eyes of the offendee. Check your email client 
settings for setting up filters to "ban" those people who irk you. I 
am generally accepting of almost all posts, although my eyes do tend 
to glaze over as I read through the interminable threads on PC vs. 
Apple vs. Linux, torrents, web servers, how many nanoseconds into (or 
before) 2nd crack etc, etc...However, I will not try to censor the 
posters. Eventually, the thread will die or morph into one I might be 
interested in.
The one type of OT post I really bristle at is the Hall Monitor post 
(see below)...
Remember, you are looking at  marks in a screen. The meaning you give 
them is all yours...
Have a nice day, <-- sarcastic? I'LL never tell... :-)
A+
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23) From: Sandy Andina
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What Paul said.  Here for the duration!
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At 12:38 AM 4/15/2006, you = wrote: Sad to say, = I'm kinda in the same boat. Not that I'm a frequent = contributor, my roaster is a bit of an oddball (I use a Rosto)  and I'm not usually one for = the me-too posts.The problem might also include = burnout--a lot of new roasters asking the same old questions, and the = more-seasoned folks getting bored. = Dunno. FWIW (not much) I have not found = the flame wars to be much of a nuisance.  You can almost always tell = from the subject line if a post is worth reading.  And since Eudora sorts = alphabetically, all like posts are together.  I simply skip and delete the = flame wars and it is as if they never happened. I am = happy with my choice of beans and roasting method and don't do a lot of = experimentation.  But I = do love to read posts from those who do.  So I have no intention of = leaving. Paul Paul GoelzRochester = Hills, MIpaul at pgoelz dot comhttp://www.pgoelz.com homeroastmailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = = --Apple-Mail-93--682598463--

24) From: Barbara C. Greenspon
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I, too, really miss the "old timers", Wandering John, etc.  There is a 
noticeable hole here, though I would not imagine leaving the list.  The 
newcomers are really missing out on some great people and great 
information.  I would hope we could welcome them back at some point 
soon.  Are any of you lurking???
Barbara,
drinking phenomenal home roasted coffee on Hatteras Island for the past 
week, with two more weeks to go!
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25) From: Alchemist John
I noted I was mentioned a couple times in this.  I am not actually 
gone, but my reading habits have radically changed for this list in 
the last year.  It used to be I read every last post.  Lately, I am 
doing what a lot of people do and just scan.  So much is OT or 
flaming that it just doesn't hold my interest or I find I am just not 
enjoying reading.  I guess things change.  Part is also the lack of 
old (figurative) faces.  I almost don't feel present anymore.
Anyway, I also noted the mention of the PNWG IV.  I am swinging 
wildly day to day whether to post about it or not.  Life has got so 
hectic lately I am not too sure I am physically or mentally up to 
hosting it without major help.  I have tossed the idea around hosting 
it, per se, but not at the previous place, but at a local Eugene 
hall.  Speaking of MM, he didn't think it would be as homelike and 
cozy, and I tend to agree, but it would be a gathering.  Should we 
jump into this discussion?  Any locals (or non-local) potential 
attendees want to volunteer to help out with the planning and 
implementation?  I guess I will finish up that PNWG IV email and get 
it to the list.
Oh, and I did hear from Mike about two weeks ago.  He seems ok, just 
busy with personal life.
At 06:59 4/15/2006, you wrote:
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John Nanci
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

26) From: Zara Haimo
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I'm still around, but sadly a lot of the people who have made this list so
interesting over the last few years have left in recent months.  I hope this
list settles down again to good talk about coffee and that some of those who
have left return.

27) From: Alchemist John
I noted I was mentioned a couple times in this.  I am not actually 
gone, but my reading habits have radically changed for this list in 
the last year.  It used to be I read every last post.  Lately, I am 
doing what a lot of people do and just scan.  So much is OT or 
flaming that it just doesn't hold my interest or I find I am just not 
enjoying reading.  I guess things change.  Part is also the lack of 
old (figurative) faces.  I almost don't feel present anymore.
Anyway, I also noted the mention of the PNWG IV.  I am swinging 
wildly day to day whether to post about it or not.  Life has got so 
hectic lately I am not too sure I am physically or mentally up to 
hosting it without major help.  I have tossed the idea around hosting 
it, per se, but not at the previous place, but at a local Eugene 
hall.  Speaking of MM, he didn't think it would be as homelike and 
cozy, and I tend to agree, but it would be a gathering.  Should we 
jump into this discussion?  Any locals (or non-local) potential 
attendees want to volunteer to help out with the planning and 
implementation?  I guess I will finish up that PNWG IV email and get 
it to the list.
Oh, and I did hear from Mike about two weeks ago.  He seems ok, just 
busy with personal life.
At 06:59 4/15/2006, you wrote:
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John Nanci
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

28) From: DJ Garcia
I mostly lurk. I'll say something when I feel I may be able to add
something new that may contribute to a thread, but that's not often. I'm
usually not much of a conversationalist, online or off ... call me a
hermit.
But I think sometimes people who are very active in these lists forget
people have a life that often requires their full attention :-).
Cheers,
DJ

29) From: Frank Parth
John,
I have to ask, what is PNWG IV?
Frank Parth
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30) From: Brett Mason
PNWG has been an annual "Pacific NorthWest Gathering" which Mike and
John did a lot of work to make available to the rest of the list.
V - this would be the fourth one...
Agreed - hope Mike is doing well, nice to get him back here (he knows
WAY too much, very helpful)
Brett
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day to day whether to post about it or not.  Life has got so hectic lately =
I am not too sure I am physically or mentally up to hosting it without majo=
r help.  I have tossed the idea around hosting it, per se, but not at the p=
revious place, but at a local Eugene hall. Speaking of MM, he didn't think =
it would be as homelike and cozy, and I tend to agree, but it would be a ga=
thering.  Should we jump into this discussion?  Any locals (or non-local) p=
otential attendees want to volunteer tohelp out with the planning and imple=
mentation?  I guess I will finish up that PNWG IV email and get it to the l=
ist.
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Brett Mason
 HomeRoast
   Zassman

31) From: J.W.Bullfrog
DJ Garcia wrote:
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Okay, Hermit Garcia it is.
BTW, Is Jerry still grateful?? I've been dying to know! :-[
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-- 
There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers 
exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will 
instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more 
bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

32) From: Jerry Procopio
Benny.... what HAVE you been drinking... or smoking?
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33) From: J.W.Bullfrog
Jerry Procopio wrote:
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actually riping vinyl, fraging aliens (et type),  and building the turbo 
roaster.
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-- 
There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers 
exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will 
instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more 
bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

34) From: Barbara Leazier
I was wandering if he moved to another forum.  I really miss his insight.  =
Anyone who makes coffee in an airport gets my attention.  
 
He did not say goodbye to Sweet Marias homeroast list, which I though he wo=
uld of it he was leaving.  
 
If anybody knows if he is posting on another list, please let us know.
 
Thanks - Barb
From: jimmitch: homeroast: Re: +Wh=
ere is Mike McKoffeeDate: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:09:19 -0700
Sadly, I fear something else has happened to Mike beyond leaving the list i=
n a hissy-fit, as he's pretty much dropped off the face of the earth - miss=
ing from other lists, several web sites, and unresponsive to Email.
 
I do hope that all will end up well and he'll return - but have no other le=
ads.
 
Cheers
 
Jim
 
On 4/14/06, Barbara Leazier  wrote:>  Where has Mike =
been?  I really have missed his post.  I learned so much > from him!=

35) From: Jason Brooks
Looks like he was last on CG on the 13th.
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36) From: Aaron
Maybe he has some 'Real Life' problems he has to attend to right now. 
Maybe things got very busy, hectic, or stressful for him. 
Maybe he got sick or had some surgery or something.
Maybe a relative died (I sure hope not)...but in situations like that, 
the LAST thing someone thinks about is making sure a coffee list (yeah 
real high priority there huh) knows they will be gone for a while.
Maybe he decided to get away from it all for a little while, turn off 
the computer and spend some time with family and friends, or just go do 
something.  The weather IS turning nicer out for most of the US at 
least... people tend to want to go out and enjoy it more.
Sometimes people just want to take a break, and don't announce it 
because then they'll hear all the.  aWWW don't leave... oh keep in 
touch,   where you going, what you doing... which is exactly what they 
are trying to get away from in the first place.
I am sure some folks have been in touch with him, or have a phone number 
or something.  Given this, if something really bad happened to him, im 
sure they'd let us know.
Aaron

37) From: Sandy Andina
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Priorities do change, exigencies rear their ugly heads, and the  
distasteful reality that there are only 24 hours in a day  
occasionally smacks one between the eyes.  F'rinstance, over on the  
CoffeeGeek forums they probably think i've dropped off the face of  
the earth because I haven't posted or even lurked there lately.   
(Besides this one and CG's forums, I am currently on four pen  
collecting and three women musician listservs, one folk music forum,   
and three guitar forums, only one of which (AGF) I've had time to  
visit of late).
On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Aaron wrote:
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Sandy
www.sandyandina.com
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Priorities do change, exigencies =
rear their ugly heads, and the distasteful reality that there are only =
24 hours in a day occasionally smacks one between the eyes.  =
F'rinstance, over on the CoffeeGeek forums they probably think i've =
dropped off the face of the earth because I haven't posted or even =
lurked there lately.  (Besides this one and CG's forums, I am =
currently on four pen collecting and three women musician listservs, one =
folk music forum,  and three guitar forums, only one of which (AGF) =
I've had time to visit of late).
On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:17 =
PM, Aaron wrote:
Maybe he has some 'Real Life' = problems he has to attend to right now. Maybe things got very busy, = hectic, or stressful for him. Maybe he got sick or had some surgery or = something.Maybe a relative died (I sure = hope not)...but in situations like that, the LAST thing someone thinks = about is making sure a coffee list (yeah real high priority there huh) = knows they will be gone for a while. Maybe he decided to get away = from it all for a little while, turn off the computer and spend some = time with family and friends, or just go do something.  The weather IS turning nicer = out for most of the US at least... people tend to want to go out and = enjoy it more. Sometimes people just want to take a break, and = don't announce it because then they'll hear all the.  aWWW don't leave... oh keep = in touch,   where you = going, what you doing... which is exactly what they are trying to get = away from in the first place. I am sure some folks have been = in touch with him, or have a phone number or something.  Given this, if something = really bad happened to him, im sure they'd let us know. homeroast mailing listhttp://li=sts.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest = options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to http://=sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings = = --Apple-Mail-134--422090985--

38) From: B. Scott Harroff
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
I called Mike.  He is alive and well, and is simply in the process of
changing ISP's and getting back on the list with his new email which is
mckona 
He has tried to reply to some of the messages, but something somewhere (some
ISP's filter maybe) is blocking them.  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Sandy Andina
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:34 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +Where is Mike McKoffee
Priorities do change, exigencies rear their ugly heads, and the distasteful
reality that there are only 24 hours in a day occasionally smacks one
between the eyes. F'rinstance, over on the CoffeeGeek forums they probably
think i've dropped off the face of the earth because I haven't posted or
even lurked there lately. (Besides this one and CG's forums, I am currently
on four pen collecting and three women musician listservs, one folk music
forum, and three guitar forums, only one of which (AGF) I've had time to
visit of late).
On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Aaron wrote:
Maybe he has some 'Real Life' problems he has to attend to right now. Maybe
things got very busy, hectic, or stressful for him. Maybe he got sick or had
some surgery or something.
Maybe a relative died (I sure hope not)...but in situations like that, the
LAST thing someone thinks about is making sure a coffee list (yeah real high
priority there huh) knows they will be gone for a while.
Maybe he decided to get away from it all for a little while, turn off the
computer and spend some time with family and friends, or just go do
something. The weather IS turning nicer out for most of the US at least...
people tend to want to go out and enjoy it more.
Sometimes people just want to take a break, and don't announce it because
then they'll hear all the. aWWW don't leave... oh keep in touch, where you
going, what you doing... which is exactly what they are trying to get away
from in the first place.
I am sure some folks have been in touch with him, or have a phone number or
something. Given this, if something really bad happened to him, im sure
they'd let us know.
AaronSandy
www.sandyandina.com

39) From: Heat + Beans --all the rest is commentary
I've been glancing, reading, posting, benefitting, and ignoring for better
than 3 years.
This site can get really annoying, but my critique doesn't go much beyond
what Tom has written many times over the years.  It strikes me as very odd
that some of the people who most enthusiastically praise the opportunities
provided by the list and thank Tom for hosting it are the very same people
who disregard (sometimes in the same thread he has posted) his requests.
The list still has value, but I compare it to sitting in an otherwise
delightful cafe in which several parties are always conducting very loud
cell phone conversations.  No one wants to deny their "right" to speak, but
I just wish they'd figure out some boundaries between their right to talk
and what others can't avoid hearing.  Telling people to leave the cafe if
they don't like it is not a good solution.
I'd love to see what the list might become (again?) if people were to
self-impose a limit of . . . one post per day?  3 posts per week?  One post
for every pound of coffee you buy from Tom?  I don't know that I ever "read
every last post" like Alchemist John, but I used to approach the list with
the sense that every post offered something potentially interesting, useful=
,
or possibly an opening for me to make a contribution.
I, too, miss Mike McK., though I have to say that the volume of his posts
made it hard to take full advantage of his helpful advice and observations.
Even so, the ratio of McChat to McWisdom was much more favorable than that
of many of our current incessent posters.
Martin
Heat + Beans
    all the rest is commentary

40) From: Aaron
Well then marty.
Please tell us.  of what real / intrinsic value was that post of yours,  
except perhaps to complain a bit and try a list nazi dream.  Das vill be 
limited da posten un per day!!  Did it TRULY add something of use to the 
list, as you proclaim a post MUST do, or was it a mee too post, or just 
meant to be an inciteful post?
One post per day huh?
What happens when two topics come up that someone is either A: 
interested in  or B: can offer advice.   Whoops, we are limited to only 
one per day... Guess we flip a coin to see who we will help?  Or do we 
post BOTH into one topic / cross bleed the topics and really confuse 
folks now?
So you like mike, but he posts too much, BUT if he changes his 
lifestyle, and personality more towards your approval criteria, you just 
might like him a bit more.  I wonder if  your like or dislike is even 
significant enough for mike  to worry about, or others as well for that 
matter.
If you don't like certain people, or the amount they post, then use a 
mail filter to weed them out.  It has been explained time and time again 
how to do exactly that.  Complaining about it even more is not going to 
solve the problem.  Hasn't in the past, and probably won't work in the 
future either.  In fact all it does is ADD to the amount of 'useless 
garbage' posts that you are complaining about in the first place.
my shiny nickle here.  (inflation and im out of pennies)
Aaron
Use a mail filter, and the rest is commentary will no longer be an issue.

41) From: DJ Garcia
I think he's extremely greatful, and extremely dead. At least I hope so,
since they buried him long ago ...
Maybe I should start a pop group, DJ's Hermits ... sorry, I'm getting
way off topic here, and it's all Benny's fault ...

42) From: DJ Garcia
Taking bennies, maybe?

43) From: DJ Garcia
He needs to make sure the e-mail address he's sending from matches his
list's registered address. He may have to un-register and re-register, I
think.
Hermit DJ (is that an oxymoron? Or maybe just a moron? [being pro-active
here ... heh])

44) From: Michael Guterman
DJ Garcia wrote:
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Jerry may or may not still be grateful, but so many of us are grateful 
that he was around, even though his time was too short.
Michael
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45) From: Heat + Beans --all the rest is commentary
On 4/18/06, Aaron  wrote:
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Aaron,
I suggested, mostly tongue in cheek, that listers "self-impose" some
limits.  That means that you think about limiting yourself, since no one
else is about to.  I didn't have you in mind, in particular, when I offered
my views, but I did a little item survey, and it's clear that you resemble
my remarks.  Further, even if you did take it personally, that hardly calls
for dropping the "nazi" bomb.
Interesting, the snip/quote above: it's true, some people just might have a
day when they have lots of advice to offer.  I can see that.  Or maybe
there's two or even more topics that interests them.  I assure you that I
woudn't want to limit anyone.  But back to that "survey."
I checked out the 40 or so threads that appear on my Gmail for today and
yesterday.  You and one other poster posted in 28 of those threads
(sometimes both of you, sometimes multiple posts, sometimes just one).
Roughly 6 of the posts in which neither of you appeared had only one post i=
n
the thread. I wouldn't go to the bank with my stats here, but it seems that
you and one other "frequent"  poster appear in 85% of the threads for the
last two days.  So, it does seem that there's some room for you and several
others to think about posting a little less often.
--
Martin
Heat + Beans
    all the rest is commentary

46) From: raymanowen
Newspeak: "greatful"-ro
On 4/18/06, DJ Garcia  wrote:
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--
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the
Wichita WurliTzer

47) From: Peter Zulkowski
Wait! Stop!
If they didn't post... there would not be much to read here!
Besides, all the posts are just great :)
PeterZ
Heat + Beans --all the rest is commentary wrote:
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48) From: javafool
Mike posted to The Big Table on the forum April 9, but posts to the Big Table do not go out to the list. It was intended for all of the off-topic posts where Tom Described it as "This is the place in the back where the regulars chat, off-topic OK." 
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