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Topic: Changed to: Small Batch Roaster Suggestions? (22 msgs / 840 lines)
1) From: Michael Wade
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Don:
No, my roasting is nearly completely out of control since I bought the =
iR2 to replace my precision.  Due to an unfortunate combination of =
events in my life I have a diminished sense of smell and a moderate =
(unless you're asking my wife) high frequency hearing loss.  With the =
precision I could hear both first and second crack, but with the iR2 I =
can barely detect first.  I'm finding that roasting by color is hit or =
miss, to put it kindly.
My first attempts at the Puro Scuro have been nearly total waste of =
beans, nothing but (expletive deleted) roast taste. 
I'm considering another roaster; the Gene Cafe is reported to be quiet, =
but I actually prefer the smaller batches that I got from the Precision. =
 Our coffee consumption is modest and the small batches let me have =
several roasts on hand to choose from without them going stale.  
So if you or anyone else has a suggestion on a quiet small batch =
roaster, I'd appreciate hearing about it.  Right now the Fresh Roast =
seems to have the most desirable combination of qualities.  I don't =
really have time to mod up a popper.  I may look into getting my =
Precision rebuilt if Hearthware still offers that service.
Michael Wade

2) From: Tom Bellhouse
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Michael,
You might consider putting together a SC/TO setup.  It's relatinely =
quiet so you can hear cracks better, and you can watch what's happening =
with the beans for added information.  I'm biased, though, because =
that's the limit of my roaster experience.  Even buying new components =
top and bottom, you can build one easily for under $100.  
Tom in GA

3) From: Don Cummings
What's the optimal batch size for this setup?
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4) From: Tom Bellhouse
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I roast 1/2 lb. at a time.  Others may roast more or less, but that =
seems optimal for the SC/TO with the SC heating element disconnected.  I =
could do more before with heat from both above and below, but the larger =
roasts seemed more uneven.  I have been doing sequential roasts lately =
if I want more or if I want to prepare several different beans at the =
same session.  No need to cool down between roasts.
Tom in GA

5) From: Woody DeCasere
I do 3/4 pound roasts in mine and find that the roast is very even and oh s=
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good!
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6) From: Peter Schmidt
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I bent some new arms with square hoops, staggered out from the center, =
two on each side.  The hoops let some beans go through, while the flat =
parts push the beans.  The lets me roast as little as I want, say 110g.  =
With the stock arms, it causes the 'angel wing' effect, where the bean =
mass simply gets pushed in front of the arms.  That's why unmodded arms =
like at least a half pound.
My comfort zone for this roaster is 0g - 400g.  Great little setup.  I =
have two of them, with somewhere around 900lbs between them.

7) From: Steven Van Dyke
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8) From: Steven Van Dyke
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As I was saying,
I've got the new Gene Cafe Roaster on order and did note that Tom mention=
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that it could do a smaller batch in the video.  
One thing you might try with your IR2 is using a strong light (I use a Su=
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9) From: Michael Wade
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Tom, Thanks for the suggestion.  Any links to more info on this =
combination?
Michael Wade

10) From: Michael Wade
Thanks, Steve, glad you cleared that up, I was trying to figure out what I 
was missing in the other post...
I'd be very interested to hear about any experience with a Gene Cafe batch 
size around 3-4 oz.  Meanwhile, I'll try the bright light on my next roast.
Michael Wade

11) From: Tom Bellhouse
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Here are a couple of SC/TO references:http://www.bish.ws/coffee/TurboCrazy.htmlhttp://turbocrazy.atspace.com/index_files/project.htm
Best regards,
Tom in GA

12) From: Brett Mason
Smartalec comment:
Do they make any roasters where you can roast one bean at a time?
  - or -
Nicer friendlier version:
This sounds like a small batch size to me...  It's less than my popper does=
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and seems like a lot of roaster for a small amount of result.  Maybe it's
just me, but this seemed small.  We have 3 coffee drinkers at home plus
frequent guests, so perhaps my expectations are higher than most?
What roast sizes are you usually doing?
  Mine are 1.5lb in a skillet or 2.5 lb in a drum...
Brett
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13) From: Michael Wade
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Brett:
It is a small batch, I admit.  But due to it's effect on our temperament =
and physiology Mary and I limit ourselves to 1 and 2 cups per day, =
respectively.  I realize that's probably heresy on this list, but we are =
beginning to experiment with decaf in the evenings (humbly begging =
forgiveness...)
I roasted 3 oz batches in the Precision and other than being time =
consuming it was nice to have several small roasts to pick from without =
any of them going stale.
The iR2 is doubly frustrating because my roasting is out of control and =
with each "unsuccessful" batch I  wind up with a week's worth of not =
particularly pleasant coffee, which from experience I know could be so =
much better.  Every time I think about just pitching it in the trash I =
think about the hard work by everyone involved in the supply chain and I =
feel compelled to drink it.  
But since you mention it, hmmm, a laser roaster that would do a standard =
coffee measure at a time?   
Naahhh.
Michael Wade

14) From: Justin Marquez
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You could do this with HG/DB, but going "just one snap into second crack"
has a different meaning to the roast level.
:-)
JJ

15) From: Brett Mason
Hi Michael,
That application makes a ton of sense...  Have you tried Heat Gun / Dog Bow=
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as a method?  Many have identified the ability to easily control the roast
from start to finish - I wonder if it might be an interim step for you as
you continue to refine your IR2 process.
My Debbie doesn't do caffeinated after noon, and I usually don't do more
than 4 espresso shots in a given evening - and that only twice a week.
Tom's decaf selections are amazingly good - in fact one of my friends at th=
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office swears by Sulawesi Toeeaja WP Decaf, and goes there more often than
caffeinated...
Thanks for the reply.  Sometimes I am myopic, thinking everyone is exactly
like me.
Regards,
Brett
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16) From: Zara Haimo
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I'll second the suggestions about going to the heat gun dog bowl method. =
 The costs are low (my whole setup including storage box cost about $30) =
and the control is great.  You can slow down or speed up the roast =
whenever you want which gives great profiling.  If sound and smell are =
an issue, you can still see exactly what is happening and pull out a =
sample bean or two at any point - during first crack the beans may even =
pop out of the bowl like popcorn!  My heat gun is very quiet, so hearing =
the pops may not be a problem for you with this method.
The only negative to using the HGDB method is that you have to stay =
there and stir for the whole roast, no setting it up and walking away =
while it roasts automatically.

17) From: Michael Wade
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Zara, thanks.  What brand & model of heat gun are you using?
Michael Wade

18) From: Zara Haimo
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I just found an old post I did some months ago that has all the details =
for how I do HGDB roasting.  I'll repost it in a minute.

19) From: Bill Morgan
Peter,
I _think_ I have visualized what you're describing, but I'm not at all
sure.  Any way you can put up a picture?
Thanks,
Bill
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20) From: Peter Schmidt
Bill, sorry, but for now this is the best I can do.
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Hope that helps!  Believe it or not, bending the arm is harder than it
looks, but works great especially for small batches.

21) From: Bill Morgan
Thanks, Peter.  That's about what I thought, except that I was making
it too complicated and thinking of closed loops.  This looks do-able.
Bill
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22) From: raymanowen
"...negative to using the HGDB method is that you have to stay there and
stir for the whole roast..."
The solution to that is to head out for some place where they have coffee
brewed and waiting for you. And there are several filters with fresh? coffe=
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grounds stacked on top of the pot. So it's all ready and waiting for you- n=
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waiting, no inconvenience on your part.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
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