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Topic: OT - Refrigerator (13 msgs / 250 lines)
1) From: Brian Kamnetz
Hi,
My apologies for cluttering the list with this OT post, but I don't
know where else to turn for this info.
I recently moved into a house and bought a new refrigerator, GE
gts18hbs (no water tap, no ice maker). It has a "quiet" package, but
seems to me to be sort of louder than I'm used to. It also seems to
run for a long time; I timed it a week or so ago, when my house was 68
degrees F, and the fridge ran for 52 minutes. The temp inside the
fridge seems stable and moderate; nothing ever freezes, and it's
always cold enough to make Miller High Life passably palatable.
My problem is that I don't know what is "normal". If anyone can tell
me one way or the other whether I may have a problem unit on my hands,
I would appreciate it very much.
Thanks,
Brian

2) From: Woody DeCasere
Sorry man, i don't think there is a refrigerator that makes miller
palatable, are you sure you haven't found some sort of mystical box???
On 4/20/06, Brian Kamnetz  wrote:
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3) From: Brett Mason
Hi Brian,
Is This the
fridge you are referring to?
Maybe this will help.
Brett
On 4/20/06, Woody DeCasere  wrote:
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Brett Mason
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4) From: Michael Wascher
Brian,
I'm not surprised that it is running almost constantly. A smaller heat pump
would make less noise, so they probably made it as small as they could. The=
y
likely designed for a lower maximum ambient temperature than they would hav=
e
in the past, since homes are air conditioned the refrigerator will be
operating in a cooler environment.
As a plus, a heat pump is most efficient under these conditions.
--MikeW
On 4/20/06, Brian Kamnetz  wrote:
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"Life is just one damned thing after another."
  - Elbert Hubbard

5) From: Aaron
You will want to check the following:
The cooling coils on back if they are there.  How clean are they.  
vaccuum them if need be.
The drip pan underneath, check that and clean it.
the compressor in the back, make sure it is clean, and the fan in that 
area if there is one is clean and spins freely as well... make sure you 
have power OFF before you go sticking your skinners in there.
the freezer, is it defrosted. how long since you did a really hard 
defrost on it.  Problem is many of them the coils etc are behind the 
white plastic and you really can't see them.  The clixon device that 
initiates the defrost cycle can stop working (this is a common problem 
although a cheap fix on many units)  it gets packed with ice and then 
doesn't do it's job like it is supposed to.
Running an hour at a time if you have not opened the doors does seem a 
bit long.  again, dirt on the compressor outside coils or excessive ice 
on the inside coils can cause this.
If you are able, unplug the thing and leave it with doors open for 12 to 
24 hours, this will ensure all the ice that might be back in there gets 
melted, then plug it in and give it a few hours to cool down again and 
see how it works for you then.
Since I do not know your technical abilities or AC/R knowledge I am not 
going to recommend taking it apart, unscrewing the innards in the 
freezer compartment.
Aaron

6) From: raymanowen
Brian, with a brand new machine, it is unlikely that the evaporator (Cold
coil) in the freezer  is iced up. The extended "run" time is quite normal
for the very first operation, but it shouldn't be the normal operating mode
if the door is not kept open for extended periods.
Let me see what's online for the GE gts18hbs, but at this point, the
warranty should certainly cover you.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?

7) From: Michael Wascher
It's new, so  probably no dirt. But checking the coils & fan is a good idea=
.
Check that packing material was fully removed.
On 4/20/06, Aaron  wrote:
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"Life is just one damned thing after another."
  - Elbert Hubbard

8) From: raymanowen
Home Despot seems to be highest at 550$, but I didn't see any glaring
service problem reports at all.
You should call an appliance service center, like Sears, and ask if your
observations indicate a real problem, like the defrost timer stuck in the
defrost mode. (Its heater can supply heat faster than the refrigeration
system can extract it.)
Wherever you got it, it's still their problem, whether or not you got
extended warranty coverage. Let them undeliver the junker and bring a new
replacement. Of course, "it's normal operation," if the seller wants to be =
a
twit.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Let your fingers do the walking, Brian-

9) From: Tom Ogren
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OK, I'll bite. "If someone tried to fill me full of High Life, I'd run too."
Har!! Whew.I'm spent.  
From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of
raymanowen
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:41 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +OT - Refrigerator
Home Despot seems to be highest at 550$, but I didn't see any glaring
service problem reports at all.
You should call an appliance service center, like Sears, and ask if your
observations indicate a real problem, like the defrost timer stuck in the
defrost mode. (Its heater can supply heat faster than the refrigeration
system can extract it.) 
Wherever you got it, it's still their problem, whether or not you got
extended warranty coverage. Let them undeliver the junker and bring a new
replacement. Of course, "it's normal operation," if the seller wants to be a
twit. 
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Let your fingers do the walking, Brian-

10) From: Brian Kamnetz
Thanks, Ray and others,
I plan to call the seller (the refrig has been in the house for less
than a month and was new when it got there) but I wanted to get some
"ammo" from all the knowlegable people on this list before I contacted
the seller. The suggestion about calling an appliance repair place is
a very good one, and I will do that.
Thanks again for all the assistance.
Brian
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11) From: raymanowen
Brian, you're right- "call the seller," and give him the opportunity to
evaluate the machine.
You certainly paid for a brand new machine, but the seller may propose to
"make you whole" by repairing this one.
It's your call- how much damage was done to your home by the ex- airport
baggage mashers in the original delivery? From my experience with
refrigerator delivery, I am sure there was some, and it shouldn't be hard t=
o
spot in your new home.
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12) From: Aaron
You might also want to check on an insurance thing.  I know when I moved 
into a house, they had some kind of 'appliance' insurance on it, where 
things breaking down were covered, you called a number, paid like a 40 
dollar fee or whatever it was for the service call and whatever had to 
be done, was done.  Im not sure about the rest of the states, or even 
sure if this is true but was told at the time, that in florida, 
jacksonville, that's a fairly common thing the seller will do to help 
sell the house / boost the value because it only cost like 400 or 500 a 
year for this.  trust me, two burst pipes in the wall, the thing paid 
for itself with one @#$$%^ plumbers visit.
Now if only I had that ultrasonic plumbers crack detector I could have 
prevented all of that :)
Aaron

13) From: Justin Marquez
On 4/21/06, Aaron  wrote:
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That is a called a Homeowner's Warranty policy.  They are common in Texas,
too.
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