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Topic: Espresso Vivace visit (Seattle) (15 msgs / 455 lines)
1) From: Brett Mason
I dropped by Espresso Vivace with my wife and mothers in law this past
Thursday, on our way from Sea-Tac to Vancouver B.C.  We each had a latte,
and each one was perfect.  The art on each was different, the espresso was
fresh and sweet, and we had a grand old time.
I had reported disappointment on my last visit to Schomer's place, but this
time was superb - so I wanted to update my opinion!
And my desire to pursue an HX machine is dramatically increased!
Graduation of my son from TWU  was great as well!
Regards,
Brett Mason
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2) From: Michael Wascher
Brett,
Congratulations to your son ... what was his major?
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3) From: Brett Mason
Linguistics!
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Regards,
Brett Mason
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4) From: Les
Congratulations!  TWU is sponsored by my denomination.  I also want to
thank you for the update.  I have avoided Schomer's place because
there were others to try out!  Now I will move it to first on my list
next time to Seattle.  I have a M.A. in Linguistics.  Not a very
marketable degree!  Now I am getting O.T.!!!!
Les
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5) From: Brett Mason
Hi Les,
Mine is in Inter-Cultural Studies - somewhere between Linguistics and
Cultural Anthropology.  Jon want's to work in the Far East, perhaps back in
Beijing - but we'll see where it takes him.  For the moment he is heading t=
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will also stay up way too late, drink lots of Diet Coke, and play hours of
video games with his best friends....
Espresso Vivace seems to be humming right along.  Does anyone know whether
Hines Public Market remains open or if it closed as was rumore to be in the
works?
Thanks for the note,
Brett
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Brett Mason
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6) From: Tom Bellhouse
Oh God, that linguistics talk brings back memories of Chomsky's "Aspects
of a Theory of Syntax."  The phone book was a better read.  I also
remember hearing George Lakoff in Austin in the late '60s, and he
*sounded* like he was reading from the same phone book.  There must be
an exit from linguistic careers that leads directly to politics!
Nursing has proven to be much more fun.
Tom in GA

7) From: Brett Mason
Hi Tom,
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well...  Problem solving, puzzles, and mathematics all seem to be close
cousins...
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Brett Mason
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8) From: Steve Hay
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They are all related, although linguistics and spoken languages typically
have less strictly defined semantics than the languages used to express
mathematics and logic.  Actually, Latin is a very logical language, from th=
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little I know of it.  It is an interesting debate as to whether one is more
expressive than the other and to what degree things are knowable that canno=
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be expressed in formal languages.
Anyway, back in the day some guys lead by a dude named Whitehead tried to
formalize all of mathematics in using set theoretic assumptions in first
order logic.  They pretty much succeeded, although Turing's Incompleteness
Theorem kindof throws a kink in the philosophical aims of the venture.
Basically, any mathematical concept you learn about in school--algebra,
calculus, etc, can be proven using a handful of rather simple axioms and
another not-so-simple one (Axiom of Choice).
My point is that it all boils down to formal languages and the link between
mathematics and language I believe to be very strong--so strong that some
actually think that some kind of language (whether implicit or explicit) is
prerequisite to any kind of knowledge itself.
(Comp Sci/Philosophy here :) )
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Steven Hay
hay.steve -AT- gmail.com
Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural
numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural
number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."

9) From: Michael Wascher
Yes, many computer programmers I've worked with have a fondness for, and
possibly degrees in, either languages/linguistics or music. A friend &
former office mate was in Julliard, but realized that his love of the lute
was not very marketable. He changed schools & majors, now codes for $$ and
spends it on toys for his music hobby.
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Jeff Dreyfuss, co-owner of Metropolis Coffee Roasters and a master  
roaster, is a linguistics professor, specializing in Indonesian  
languages.  Seems to be a skill popular with coffee roasters.
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Jeff Dreyfuss, co-owner of =
Metropolis Coffee Roasters and a master roaster, is a linguistics =
professor, specializing in Indonesian languages.  Seems to be a skill =
popular with coffee roasters.
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Michael Wascher wrote:
Yes, many = computer programmers I've worked with have a fondness for, and possibly = degrees in, either languages/linguistics or music. A friend & former = office mate was in Julliard, but realized that his love of the lute was = not very marketable. He changed schools & majors, now codes for $$ = and spends it on toys for his music hobby. On 5/2/06, Brett = Mason <homeroast = > wrote:Hi Tom, = Seems the dynamics of linguistics is very similar to computer = programming as well...  Problem solving, puzzles, and mathematics all = seem to be close cousins... B On 5/2/06, Tom = Bellhouse < = altoid> wrote: Oh God, that linguistics talk brings back = memories of Chomsky's "Aspects of a Theory of Syntax."  The phone = book was a better read.  I also remember hearing George Lakoff in = Austin in the late '60s, and he *sounded* like he was reading from = the same phone book.  There must be an exit from linguistic = careers that leads directly to politics! Nursing has proven to be = much more fun. Tom in GA

11) From: Bill Morgan
Here at the University of Texas, when the Computer Sciences department
was first started they offered only a BA degree.  Since the Bachelor
of Arts required a certain number of hours in Liberal Arts subjects,
the introductory Logic, Sets, and Functions course was set up in the
Philosophy department (but only taken by CS majors) and the Formal
Languages and Automata Theory course was set up in Linguistics (also
only taken by CS majors).  So yes, there are strong links there.
Bill
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12) From: Tom Bellhouse
A good friend got his BA in Linguistics at UT in the late '60's while
majoring in computer science.  I remember his having to spend time in
the Psych dep't too, as psycholinguistics was in vogue as a replacement
for SR accounts of language learning and use.  Ah, the good old days,
standing in line with a deck of punchcards in front of the building,
hoping nobody's program looped and shut the system down.  I chuckle at
the thought that my laptop has way more power than that building-sized
IBM had.
Off now to roast some beans,
Tom in GA

13) From: Angelo
Many years ago, a fellow who was giving a computer programing course 
mentioned that when his company went to universities to recruit 
prospective programmers, they raided the music departments. He 
claimed that music majors made the best programmers...
Of course, this was way before  programming became a subject of its own...
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14) From: Michael Guterman
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I used to worry that I would drop the deck and have to use the red X I 
had put on the edge.  It is very strange to think how much power my 
little Mac has.
Michael
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15) From: Bill Morgan
Yep.  I do IT for the College of Fine Arts here.  Almost all of our
student help desk workers come from Music and the very best ones are
typically grad students in composition.  My boss, our Assistant Dean
for IT, has his Master's in Composition.  Programming and composition
call for very similar talents and skills.
Bill
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