I hate roasting coffee.. outside.. when there is no breeze.. to blow away the chaff. Honestly, I just roasted a mixture of 350 gr of UGH, 130 gr of low quality Columbian, and 86 gr of Kona. Nets me a pound of better-than-super-market-specialty-coffee what they call Kona :) The chaff is horrendous. No breeze, so when I hit the roast with the hair drier to cool it in less than 2 minutes, I had visions of one of those clear glass 'snow balls'. You know the kind, you shake them up and it snows all over inside. There I was, right in the middle, fighting a chaff storm. Lots of chaff. I never wanted to make a chaff collector. The wind just blows it away! Now I need to roast some horse, but I am waiting until the wind picks up a bit, here in Lake Havasu. PeterZ Wondering why CA is still grayed out...
can i ask why you are roasting that combo??? On 5/8/06, Peter Zulkowski wrote: <Snip> -- "Good night, and Good Coffee"
On May 8, 2006, at 5:20 pm, Peter Zulkowski wrote: <Snip> Wow. It's probably a good thing that Mike McKoffee isn't on the list these days or his head would literally have exploded on reading that. John Blumel
I think it's pretty reasonable. I mean, wouldn't it have been far worse if he'd used, say, 180 or 260 grams of Kona with those other numbers? ;-) On 5/8/06, John Blumel wrote: <Snip> -- Scott
Peter, why would you waste a good kona mixing it with that crap? I know some folks would have a fit with you mixing kona to begin with, but with ugh? Might as well buy yourself a nice juicy porterhouse steak, cook it medium rare then grind it up and mix it with cat food and eat it for dinner. Just idle thoughts. Aaron
Soon after I began roasting coffee, a friend who loves supermarket Kona, wanted to try mine. Well, he hated the real Kona. So, I tried different blends with good stuff from Tom. He was not HAPPY! He insisted that I use good Columbian, and NOT Robusta. Well.... I asked on the list how to duplicate the specialty coffee found in loose beans in grocery stores. Someone mentioned that it was the worst dreck you could buy. I was frustrated so I ordered the cheapest coffee I could find; you know, the really bad stuff is not available to us, just the big guys. Anyway, I nailed it! As a matter of fact, he likes my blend a bit better than what he can buy at the super store! He was wrong about the robusta ;) But it has to be the very worst. Thanks Tom for supplying such bad UGH! PeterZ John Blumel wrote: <Snip>
Scott, I tried straight Kona... bad stuff... This is a perfect blend :) Scott Marquardt wrote: <Snip>
I don't care how good your intentions were. Thats just wrong. That path to hell is paved with good intentions and bad coffee Peter! -Chuck Deal Lord, I pray you to forgive Peter of his Kona sins... Peter Zulkowski wrote: <Snip>
On 5/8/06, Peter Zulkowski wrote: <Snip> s'. <Snip> Peter, I use the fan below to cool my beans, but during the roast it also blows on me. I got 20% off, so it cost me $8. It tilts all the way to horizontal and has 3 speeds. I bought two.http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=11138349Take care, Ann
"...forgive Peter of his Kona sins..." -or- "...relieve Peter of his Kona beans..." Not! I'm just playing with words. A mind is a terrible thing... Regarding the former- Says who? I couldn't seriously suggest the latter larceny. Does there exist a Coffee Gestapo in the Silicon caves and 3.3 volt lightin= g of this list? When you build a highway, there's a lot of fill with qualities different from the surface where there's traffic. At least, the "path to hell is pave= d with" stuff that can take the alleged heat! Has to be- who'd take a melting roadway? Hi- At the end of it all, Peter will have the last laugh, because Tom doesn't buy beans with the intention of selling them as UGH. Perhaps PZ will find a way to recover the original quality. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! There must be a universal rule or formula- What is it?
Hi Ann, Thanks for the tip :) Today was really strange. It IS windy around here, and there was a breeze blowing when I started this batch. As a matter of fact, there is so much wind between me and the mountains in California, about 50 miles away, that they are grayed out! I never need a fan to help. It is *always* windy, or breezy. ( I bought a box fan, but never used it) My next roast.. 680 gr of horse #30 for me roasted to just 2nd crack, went just fine. All the chaff blew quickly toward CA. I'll bet that some of it even got there :) I like that little fan though because I am not sure how I am going to cool my new roaster. Even if I do small batches, the SS chamber weighs 3.5 lb, so that may hinder the cooling process. It may happen that I will have to DUMP the beans in order to cool them quickly enough!! Arrrgghhh! Gloves even??? EEEEEK! When I used a popper I just switched off the heater and let them circulate. Now I leave them agitating and cool them with a cool hair drier :) Not sure how that will work cooling 3# or more of beans, plus the bowl. Will let you know.. testing is imminent. :) PeterZ Life is just one experiment after another, here in LHC an iconoclast wrote: <Snip>
On 5/8/06, an iconoclast wrote: <Snip> Thank you Ann. I had no idea they were so cheap. I picked up the fan and th= e set of three mesh colanders to set on top for less than $25. Now I have absolutely everything I could possibly need or want for this hobby. Except= , perhaps, for a real espresso machine. ;) Don
You are correct Ray. Tom buys the best of the UGH. Even he does not want to purchase a carload so he can get the really bad stuff. It leaves me wonder... if you need bad coffee to make it good for someone who likes it that way.. does it make the coffee better to use good coffee?? not! To him it makes it bad.. but then I can't buy the really bad stuff.. so he has to suffer. I do use good Kona though, and that really is a crime/sin... oh my gosh! Would it be even 'better' if I substituted something that tastes 'better' than Kona? something other than Kona? Would a super market supplier sell something called Kona that had no Kona in it? Perhaps they just use a bean or two per pound... or batch... how big is a batch? Has anyone but me ever tried to duplicate gourmet coffee?? The only way to tell if you have imitated it is to mix and blend and taste it. If great beans do not work...... What is that bean that is so much less expensive, but is just as good (to some on this list) as Kona. Les?? I used to know, but all that email has vanished. Panama? All help and suggestions sincerely appreciated. PeterZ Almost out of real Kona, here in LHC. raymanowen wrote: <Snip>
Oh Don, Thou shalt not challenge the coffee gods! PeterZ Patiently waiting to see... here in LHC. Don Cummings wrote: <Snip>
Oh Don, Thou shalt not challenge the coffee roasting equipment gods! PeterZ Patiently waiting to see... here in LHC. Don Cummings wrote: <Snip>
On 5/9/06, Peter Zulkowski wrote: <Snip> No, this time I mean it. Really. No, really. There is nothing, absoluely nothing, not one more thing, nada, that I could possibly want or need. I mean it. Except perhaps . . . but . . . no, nothing. I think. Don PS I plan to read no posts about Tom's trip to Panama.
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