This is a multi-part message in MIME format. This week I managed to get a few pics of my SC/TO onto =http://peter4jc.googlepages.com/. The chaff ejector is great for = adjusting airflow, and therefore heat retention/cooling. In this = never-ending quest for a good, cheap roaster I'm digging this setup. = Too bad the target isn't static. peter schmidt, who hopes nobody thinks I'm tooting my own horn by = posting this.
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Nice Job! I admire the adjustable chaff ejection chute, much more = elegant than me stuffing a plug in mine. Great setup. Tom in GA
Great work! Great set up! Have you thought about posting on: http://homeroasters.org/php/forum/index.phpWhat you have done would be of interest to lots of folks. Nice going! PeterZ Peter Schmidt wrote: <Snip>
Peter Schmidt wrote: <Snip> Cool. I like the stirring arm. I was thinking of rigging up something that would move beans in and out but I think I'll stick with the stock one. It seems to work pretty good. I'll have to get started on a bench like that so I can continue to use it in the winter. I don't think I want to be sitting outside on the patio in the middle of a New Jersey winter even if the patio is covered and screened in. Anyway, I couldn't wait so I have a pot of the Costa Rica SHB Decaf brewing now in my KMB. Should be done by now.... -- tom_p pfau --http://nbpfaus.net/~pfau/
That's one of the best setups I have seen Peter. My favorite two things you did was how you setup the spacer to allow for open/close chaff ejection, and how you did the stirring arms. Nice work! -james On 6/3/06, Peter Schmidt wrote: <Snip>
On 6/3/06, Peter Schmidt wrote: <Snip> Peter, Really cool setup; gives me some ideas for sure. I am envious of your setup as I am moving into a one bedroom apt. and the wife would never go for a setup like that. Still, I've got my table and hopefully a balcony that I can reserve space on. I like the coat hangar trick. It might be fun to try different shapes to see what works best.. -- Steven Hay hay.steve -AT- gmail.com Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."
Peter, great job...and write up. Mike (just plain)
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Steve wrote; The stirring arm took more time than any other aspect of the roaster. = For anyone who has tried to duplicate the bends at the center it's a = lot harder than it looks. I wound up making a jig out of some maple = with pins so that the center bends could be knocked out consistently, = then played with various shapes. One drawback of the SC is the slow = rpm's; it won't spin fast enough for serious agitation. The reason for the square hoops was to get away from the 'angel wing' = effect of small batches. Under a certain amount of beans there isn't = enough mass to the pile, and the stock arms simply push the beans around = in a clump. Staggered hoops eliminate that fairly well. peter
Since many of you do not use the heat of the SC, I would assume you are only using it to agitate the beans. Might I suggest another approach altogether? There is a device called the Stirchefhttp://tinyurl.com/hhqg2 which is a battery operated soup/sauce stirrer which turns at approx. 15 rpm. I would say that the motor is much more powerful than that of the SC, although, I only determined this by hand, rather than reading the specs. The shaft can be inserted through any metal pan. If I were doing this I would probably use the aluminum top of a wok that can be had in an Asian market for a couple of bucks. Make sure it's the one with the flat top. You won't even have to drill a hole. Just unscrew the knob.. You would slide the shaft up through the hole, attach the stirring vanes and you're good to go... You would need some sort of stand or box to allow room for the unit to fit beneath the pan...Right now, these things are going for about $10... usually you can find them for about $16 on ebay....Oh, and you can still use it to stir that chocolate sauce that you're going to cover your beans with... Btw, you could also use this to replace the stirring mechanism on the Whirleypop and/or Back2basic stove top poppers. The shaft is a standard square metal, so you could get/cut a size that fits exactly... Ciao, A+ <Snip>
On 6/4/06, Angelo wrote: <Snip> This thing looks promising, however, I'm confused/intrigued by your ideas of how to use it. Are the pans you can buy with holes already in the middle? Also, it looks like this device actually grabs onto the rims of a pan and rotates itself... True? Does the shaft in the middle on the top rotate? Seems everyone is using the same pic of it on the internet.. At the very least maybe this thing could be used simply for the motor inside and speed control, if it has the square shaft somewhere.. -- Steven Hay hay.steve -AT- gmail.com Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."
I'm sure I am missing something, but as this is battery operated, how would that work in a hot, hot environment? Vicki Steve Hay wrote: <Snip>
Steve, You could use any pan that would fit under the TO. The "pan" I would try is a spun aluminum cover for a wok, which has a hole already drilled in the center. This is where the knob is located. You just unscrew the knob and insert the shaft through this hole. Although you are putting the unit through the top of the cover, you will be using the cover as a pan by turning it upside down so that the motor will be under the pan. As to it grabbing the rim - this is true when using it as a sauce stirrer, or if you use it on the stovetop roasters, but the legs you see in the pics fold back into the body of the unit. The shaft is a separate piece which goes through the body. This means it can adjust to different heights/depths, or you could use different lengths... Because this is used UNDER the pan, you would have to have a stand of some sort for the whole thing...A cardboard box would do nicely. The motor is about 4-5 inches high... I hope I've explained it better this time To answer Vicki's question: The motor is under the pan, so there is little, or no, heat. Besides, it's made to sit over a sauce pan, which has heat coming up to it.... :-) <Snip>
On 6/4/06, Angelo wrote: <Snip> I see what you mean.. Really cool idea and variant to the SC/TO. One might be able to make an annulus of sheet metal as a base use some insulating spray foam (can this stuff handle oven temps?) to keep the heat from coming out the bottom. Also with some dremel work perhaps one could use the wok itself or another lid as a housing for the TO lid? -- Steven Hay hay.steve -AT- gmail.com Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."
I don't think it's necessary to insulate it from the heat in the pan. Heat rises so I doubt that much would get back to the motor. And, as I said to Vicki, the unit is made to sit over an open simmering pot. If you decide to use the wok itself, just make sure it's a flat-bottom model. A+ <Snip>
*"*.* ..nobody thinks I'm tooting my own horn by posting this."* Hell's Bells, Peter, it's not happening. Toot, already! This guy doesn't have enough imagination to visualize the necessary mods. I determined to go from popper #3--> Fresh Roast--> SC/TO, meanwhile building a BBQ-based heat muffle for the RKDrum. It made me crazy when the 'Bay prices were going above the Big Box store prices for both the SC and TO. So I got a SC 8, which makes a great batch of Kettle Popcorn and quit with eBay. Zum Teufel mit Ihnen.The HG/Mixer Bowl has been a neat diversion using tools I possess already. Wow! I managed to actually roast 400g of this Panama Auction Lot - Cafe de Eleta from '05. MADE GOOD ON TOM'S NOTES, TOO. It made all of First then I backed off with the Heat Gun from 12:00 - 20:00. Able to coax some 2nd snaps, I put on the brakes. They felt cold after 20 sec when they were just thinking of 2nd snap and smoke. Cooling takes longer when it's near 90 degrees. (As opposed to 10 sec to dead cold in cool weather.) I tried an experiment. I cooled a 40g sample this roast in the freezer in a Glad container. I thought the roasted beans would tend to fracture rather than tear if they were very cold when I ground them. I was hoping for fewer minute particulates. I think I achieved that end with only a tiny amount of sediment in the cup, without resorting to a paper filter. With a little sediment, you get quite a flavor show if you drink it right and swirl it up in the cup before you take a drag. I was just starting to realize that on the very last pot of Horse I brewed. That's gone now, so I'll have to tap my Lot 30. That ought to be a real Fireworks show! Cheers and 73 -RayO, aka Opa! -- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty Wichita WurliTzer- 1976
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Angelo... A+... After reading your ideas, and seeing the unit online, it begs the = question; Why? Maybe you could help me understand the benefits of using = the Stirchef, as in what would it do that a SC doesn't? It seems like = it would take some effort to build the stand, it doesn't seem it would = save money, and then there's the battery vs. household current issue. = Help me see the light. peter
Peter. First of all, I don't have a dog in this fight. I have been reading the enormous amount of messages, both here and on Coffeegeek concerning the modifications to the SC (a 19 page thread on CG) to make it do something it wasn't intended to do. My first post in this thread was addressed to those people who would only use the SC to agitate the beans, and NOT use the heating element. I would like to turn your question around: "What does the SC ($25 + $50 for a Dremel Tool+ doing surgery + hunting for European rollers and the rest of the mod parts) do that the StirChef ($10 -I got mine for $5 in Jack's 99¢ Store- + $2.50 for Wok Cover + free cardboard box for the stand) doesn't do?" I live in Manhattan and we don't have the choices in terms of searching for hardware supplies. Our "hardware" stores are "boutique housewares" stores that sell everything (at a premium price, btw) except real hardware. Another reason I would choose to do it my way is that it is much simpler (I'm lazy)..and, it all comes apart. The cover can go back on the wok...the stirrer can be used on the stovetop popper and/or the sauce pot, or just stored away (it's pretty compact) and the TO can go back to toasting my bagels... If you want to add the extra heat you should stick with the SC/TO, but I would prefer the SC/TO... If I ever get around to putting this together, I will definitely put it up somewhere. I don't drink enough coffee to warrant doing this, but I might make one for my son, who drinks much more than I do... Ciao Angelo Oh, as to the battery vs household current, I prefer one less wire in my= apt.. <Snip>
I have a UFO en route. This "stir crazy clone" has been reported to alread= y have the metal shaft assembly. This means that at most it might need the heater disconnected or put on a switch, that will cut out %80 of the work a= s building that metal shaft was a pain. Now some of us have started to experiment by "pre-heating" the SC/TO and ar= e possibly getting better results than starting cold. It's too early to tell if this is just coincidence, or if pre-heating might have some weight to it. If this turns out to be true, the stir crazy, and it's clones, provide the ability to heat from the bottom as well and that might make these a better option? However for 10 bucks or whatever the stir chef thingy costs, I would be willing to try it out. I enjoy experimenting especially if it's fairly inexpensive to do so. I will give a pictorial comparison between the two (UFO and Stir Crazy--which I use now) when it arrives and my thoughts on it's first few batches. -james On 6/4/06, Angelo wrote: <Snip>
<Snip> My point exactly. Did I say I was lazy? <Snip> My TO, a Decosonic, has burnt my toast to a crisp at times. Does it need to get hotter to do this to a coffee bean. Have you guys tried to pre-heat using only the TO? What have been the results? <Snip> That's the spirit!! <Snip> Looking forward to it... Ciao, A+ <Snip> hardware. <Snip> apt.. <Snip> marias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast <Snip> as.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings <Snip>
Angelo, you make some great points, and I appreciate your comments. If a person doesn't have access to a good hardware store the SC mods, would prove difficult. And not everyone finds SC's at thrift stores/rummage sales for $5 either, nor does everyone have the tools to do the mods. Steve, et al., I need to add a couple pages to my slide show and will do so soon, to show my shaft mod. It costs 49¢, and takes ten minutes. It involves filing down the plastic broken/melted threads of the existing shaft, drilling it out, and threading into the hole a 'Hanger Bolt'. The neat little doohickeys have wood threads on one end, that go into the shaft, and ¼-20 machine screw threads on the other end that a wing nut goes on to secure the stirring arm. <Snip> My point exactly. Did I say I was lazy? <Snip> My TO, a Decosonic, has burnt my toast to a crisp at times. Does it need to get hotter to do this to a coffee bean. Have you guys tried to pre-heat using only the TO? What have been the results? <Snip> That's the spirit!! <Snip> Looking forward to it... Ciao, A+ <Snip> hardware. <Snip> apt.. <Snip> marias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast <Snip> as.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings <Snip>