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1) From: John Fellowes
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I find the brew a little watery as well.  I brew at 200 degrees. I think =
they suggest the lower temp for the same reason  most brewers have low =
temps.  Liability.

2) From: Scott Marquardt
No. They suggest the lower temp only -- ONLY -- because their tasters said
in blind cuppings that they liked the lower temp results better.
There's no reason to doubt that claim, especially if you know Alan Adler and
his passions at all. However, it's not possible to know how well the testers
represent the population of coffee drinkers.
Consider that a lot of people like *$ coffee before doubting that many
people might like somewhat underextracted brew from an Aeropress.
Personally, I use hotter water in the Aero, but I suspect that cooler water
with darker roasts might be tolerable in many ways. It's interesting to vary
temps in the Aero with different roast levels and compare results in the
cup.
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3) From: Scott Marquardt
Oh, forgot to mention -- how can an Aeropress brew be watery? Unless your
grind is dramatically coarse, an Aeropress is guaranteed to make a very
strong extraction.
Are you sure you didn't mean that the result had thin body? That's
conjecturable, at least.
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Scott

4) From: Turbosimba
Let's see if I can be more clear.  When I use a standard scoop, I get  a thin 
tasting coffee. There may be flavor, but there is no body, it is thin and  
watery. When I use the aeropress scoop the coffee tastes more like a regular  
cup.  Of course I know that in all cases you have to add extra water to  make a 
so called americano.  If I don't do that, the coffee will be  espresso like, 
no matter what scoop or measure I use. I've tried fine grind and  even espresso 
grind, and it doesn't make any difference. If you don't use THEIR  scoop, you 
wind up with a thin, I would say, underextracted  cup.

5) From: Peter Zulkowski
When I weigh my coffee to make my French Press for a 16 oz cup I use 
about 34 grams.
So I do that with the Aeropress.
Just to see, I weighed out 3 Aeropress scoops, as per directions, and it 
weighs  about 37 grams. ymmv
But then, I like strong coffee.
Mostly I do not go by scoop size, but by weight. :)
I think I can make a cuppa coffee quicker with the Aeropress.
The clean up is mighty quick.
I probably like it better than the FP too. But I do keep the FP handy.
If I make a mess with the Aero, I can strain the mess.
Hope this helps,
PeterZ
There is a reason my wife won't let me in the kitchen, here in LHC...
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6) From: Turbosimba
I love using the aeropress. It is quick and makes delicious coffee. The  
paper filter keeps it sediment free and, they say, paper filtered coffee is  
better for us.  But I sure dislike the fact that I have  to use more  coffee 
grounds per cup to get the same body and depth of flavor that I can get  from other 
brewing methods using less coffee.  I still don't know why this  should be 
true.

7) From: Michael McTryk
Turbosimba ... I have being using the Aeropress daily for about the
last month. I love the results I am getting. I worry about the amount
of coffee I am using, perhaps I should say " I hate the amount of
coffee I am using to make 1 cup". I average probably about 20-25 grams
for a 10 oz cup. I really do prefer the taste to anything other than a
good shot of espresso. I figure my aeropress scoop is 15 grams.
If you follow Tom's instructions (link following) you will get in the ballpark.http://www.sweetmarias.com/aeropress_instructions.htmlI have found that I have also been playing with temperature. When I
first got the aeropress I was using water just off boil and the
results were just fine. I am now more concerned with temperature and
actually place a calibrated thermometer in my waiting water. I use 180
degree water for darker beans and I use about 195 degree water with
lighter roasts.
If you are interested in reading the extremely long thread (50+ pages)
on Coffee Geek, use the following link. I think if you give the
aeropress a chance you will find a taste that you like. You may also
go broke buying beans.http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/195166?Page=1-- 
McTryk
The Outback Roasterhttp://members.shaw.ca/mctryk/index.htm

8) From: Justin Marquez
On 6/6/06, Turbosimba  wrote:
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I expect that the lower temp water used means that to get a full-tasting cup
it requires more coffee.  It is by it's nature underextracted (low
water temp, short steep time). You make up for that with more coffee.  If
you use hotter water and longer steep time, the brew is closwer to FP in
nature and you may be able to cut back on the coffee loaded.  The down side
is that the small hot water chamber size limits how much you can brew.  It
ends up being like a single mug filtered FP.  Which is not necessarily a bad
thing either. Try it - you may like it.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)

9) From: Scott Marquardt
I cite a material at:http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/238663that some of ye Aeropress users might like to play with. Using the
"inverted" Aeropress method, it yields a cup which, I'm persuaded, would
beat a Clover in a blind cupping. That, provided one also departs from Aero
instructions and uses higher temps and, frankly, more water as well.
For my own brewing, I don't think I'll ever use a paper filter in the Aero
again. I'm trying hard to figure out how to make the inverted method less
messy.
- Scott
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10) From: Rudy Ramsey
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like. You may also go broke buying beans.
I find it helps if you think of it as a stash-reduction aid. :-)
Rudy


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