This is a multi-part message in MIME format. I find the brew a little watery as well. I brew at 200 degrees. I think = they suggest the lower temp for the same reason most brewers have low = temps. Liability.
No. They suggest the lower temp only -- ONLY -- because their tasters said in blind cuppings that they liked the lower temp results better. There's no reason to doubt that claim, especially if you know Alan Adler and his passions at all. However, it's not possible to know how well the testers represent the population of coffee drinkers. Consider that a lot of people like *$ coffee before doubting that many people might like somewhat underextracted brew from an Aeropress. Personally, I use hotter water in the Aero, but I suspect that cooler water with darker roasts might be tolerable in many ways. It's interesting to vary temps in the Aero with different roast levels and compare results in the cup. On 6/5/06, John Fellowes wrote: <Snip>
Oh, forgot to mention -- how can an Aeropress brew be watery? Unless your grind is dramatically coarse, an Aeropress is guaranteed to make a very strong extraction. Are you sure you didn't mean that the result had thin body? That's conjecturable, at least. On 6/5/06, John Fellowes wrote: <Snip> -- Scott
Let's see if I can be more clear. When I use a standard scoop, I get a thin tasting coffee. There may be flavor, but there is no body, it is thin and watery. When I use the aeropress scoop the coffee tastes more like a regular cup. Of course I know that in all cases you have to add extra water to make a so called americano. If I don't do that, the coffee will be espresso like, no matter what scoop or measure I use. I've tried fine grind and even espresso grind, and it doesn't make any difference. If you don't use THEIR scoop, you wind up with a thin, I would say, underextracted cup.
When I weigh my coffee to make my French Press for a 16 oz cup I use about 34 grams. So I do that with the Aeropress. Just to see, I weighed out 3 Aeropress scoops, as per directions, and it weighs about 37 grams. ymmv But then, I like strong coffee. Mostly I do not go by scoop size, but by weight. :) I think I can make a cuppa coffee quicker with the Aeropress. The clean up is mighty quick. I probably like it better than the FP too. But I do keep the FP handy. If I make a mess with the Aero, I can strain the mess. Hope this helps, PeterZ There is a reason my wife won't let me in the kitchen, here in LHC... Turbosimba wrote: <Snip>
I love using the aeropress. It is quick and makes delicious coffee. The paper filter keeps it sediment free and, they say, paper filtered coffee is better for us. But I sure dislike the fact that I have to use more coffee grounds per cup to get the same body and depth of flavor that I can get from other brewing methods using less coffee. I still don't know why this should be true.
Turbosimba ... I have being using the Aeropress daily for about the last month. I love the results I am getting. I worry about the amount of coffee I am using, perhaps I should say " I hate the amount of coffee I am using to make 1 cup". I average probably about 20-25 grams for a 10 oz cup. I really do prefer the taste to anything other than a good shot of espresso. I figure my aeropress scoop is 15 grams. If you follow Tom's instructions (link following) you will get in the ballpark.http://www.sweetmarias.com/aeropress_instructions.htmlI have found that I have also been playing with temperature. When I first got the aeropress I was using water just off boil and the results were just fine. I am now more concerned with temperature and actually place a calibrated thermometer in my waiting water. I use 180 degree water for darker beans and I use about 195 degree water with lighter roasts. If you are interested in reading the extremely long thread (50+ pages) on Coffee Geek, use the following link. I think if you give the aeropress a chance you will find a taste that you like. You may also go broke buying beans.http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/195166?Page=1-- McTryk The Outback Roasterhttp://members.shaw.ca/mctryk/index.htm
On 6/6/06, Turbosimba wrote: <Snip> I expect that the lower temp water used means that to get a full-tasting cup it requires more coffee. It is by it's nature underextracted (low water temp, short steep time). You make up for that with more coffee. If you use hotter water and longer steep time, the brew is closwer to FP in nature and you may be able to cut back on the coffee loaded. The down side is that the small hot water chamber size limits how much you can brew. It ends up being like a single mug filtered FP. Which is not necessarily a bad thing either. Try it - you may like it. Safe Journeys and Sweet Music Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)
I cite a material at:http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/238663that some of ye Aeropress users might like to play with. Using the "inverted" Aeropress method, it yields a cup which, I'm persuaded, would beat a Clover in a blind cupping. That, provided one also departs from Aero instructions and uses higher temps and, frankly, more water as well. For my own brewing, I don't think I'll ever use a paper filter in the Aero again. I'm trying hard to figure out how to make the inverted method less messy. - Scott On 6/6/06, Justin Marquez wrote: <Snip>
<Snip> like. You may also go broke buying beans. I find it helps if you think of it as a stash-reduction aid. :-) Rudy