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Topic: Improving brewing > was RE: About the Pineapple Macadamia Nut Up-Side-Down Coconut Rum Cake (3 msgs / 256 lines)
1) From: miKe mcKoffee
(Replying onList 'cuz brewing methods common topic and the more input the
better)
Many will contend that a quality grinder is the MOST important link in
getting a good coffee brew, any brewing method, and I don't disagree!-) I
would not waste money on a sub $100 electric grinder of any ilk. I'll let
others jump in with recommendations. Though most drippers brew too cool, so
they don't help any either brewing a "dull" flavor muted cup, and you going
to pour over where you can control the water temp a good move. With fresh
roasted, properly rested, brewed at 200f or so at the coffee grinds you may
be surprised in the improvement even with our current grinder, with better
grinder further taste improvements incremental. 
BTW, they are many a "Senior" homeroaster on the List so I don't think you
need be concerned with your taste buds being over the hill!-)
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
	From: Rose Lee Geiger [mailto:roselee.geiger] 
	Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 5:31 PM
	To: miKe mcKoffee
	Subject: Re: About the Pineapple Macadamia Nut Up-Side-Down Coconut
Rum Cake
	
	I KNOW we're going to enjoy it!  Macadamia nuts, Pineapple, Coconut,
and RUM to boot!  WOW!  I can't wait to get the skillet . . . I was the only
bidder, and got it for $89.  Thanks for the added baking tips . . . they've
been added to the recipe.  Can I pick your brain for another item? . . .
Since we have YET to roast a coffee bean, or even know for sure if we ever
will . . . we LOVE good coffee, and just rec'd two pounds of Tom's special
roasted beans from last Monday's roasting.  (one pound of Kenya decaf that
we are still wondering about and one pound of Uganda Organic Bugisu that we
like very much)  I'm REALLY concerned that our coffee pot is one of our
weakest links, so I'm going to experiment with some of Tom's cone filters.
PLUS, our little Braun coffee grinder is probably our 2nd weakest link.  I
just found a Melita Burr coffee grinder on ebay, and wonder if it might be a
better option? . . . I really hate to invest a bunch of money in coffee
equipment until we're convinced that we can enjoy our breakfasts a whole lot
more than we already do.  The more I read this list, the more I wonder if
we're not too old to become TRUE coffee connoisseurs.  If our taste buds
have deteriorated to the same degree as the rest of our bodies, maybe we
should stick to a McDonald's "Senior" cup of coffee.  Oh MY!  Anyhow, we
welcome your advice . . . Nana Rose and Grand Dad John

2) From: Vince Doss
Rose & John,
On the order of first hand experiences, I used to buy whole beans from Lion
Coffee in Hawaii when I was in the Navy  82-92 (because they would ship to a
Fleet Post Office or "FPO") and that was my introduction to what real coffee
"could" be...although we would grind it in a whirly blade grinder and brew
it in a Mr. Coffee, it was markedly better than the swill on the ship. Since
then and until recently I was brewing store bought ground like Kirkland
brand Costco Colombian Supremo Dark in a Mr. Coffee occasionally buying a
bag of beans and grinding in the whirly. I knew what I could be drinking and
started looking into coffee pots. That is when I found Sweet Maria's and
this list! and subsequently became more educated than ever before. I have
bought 2 drip brew coffee makers since March. The first was a Capresso MT500
that brews at 200F into a thermal carafe. Then I bought a 30.00 Cuisinart
burr grinder from Costco which worked fine until I wanted to make espresso.
Then based on Tom's review and instructions, I bought a Technivorm KBTS
coffee maker from sweet Maria's and have never looked back. In my opinion,
if you only intended to brew into a filtered drip brewer, then a less
expensive grinder would do. If however, you plan to use a vaccuum brewer or
French Press then the consistant grind that a better (more expensive) burr
grinder gives you will be better. I think from what you have described,
convenience is a primary concern and a good high temp coffee maker will be
the most convenient first step and offer the greatest return for you and
John. I have since purchased all the makings for an RK drum roaster as well
as an espresso maker (Rancilio Silvia) and better grinder (Rancilio
Rocky) but I get carried away with most endeavors. I consider myself a life
long learner and the idea of coffee roasting appeals to me because it is and
always will be a dynamic thing which I find stimulating. Tom and Maria make
this so much more enjoyable because of their unique web site. I also believe
deeply in the strength of small business and want to support their efforts
for what they give to me.
OBTW any time I have to leave the house in the morning without "my" coffee,
I stop at McDonald's (right across from $tarbuck$) and get a large cup of
their coffee. No senior discount yet though =)
Regards,
Vince
On 6/10/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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3) From: miKe mcKoffee
I agree to disagree. Uniformity of grind is important for proper extraction
any brewing method. Uneven grind equals some over extracted, some under
extracted, some properly extracted. 
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Vince Doss
	Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:07 PM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: Re: +Improving brewing > was RE: About the Pineapple
Macadamia Nut Up-Side-Down Coconut Rum Cake
	
	Rose & John,
	On the order of first hand experiences, I used to buy whole beans
from Lion Coffee in Hawaii when I was in the Navy  82-92 (because they would
ship to a Fleet Post Office or "FPO") and that was my introduction to what
real coffee "could" be...although we would grind it in a whirly blade
grinder and brew it in a Mr. Coffee, it was markedly better than the swill
on the ship. Since then and until recently I was brewing store bought ground
like Kirkland brand Costco Colombian Supremo Dark in a Mr. Coffee
occasionally buying a bag of beans and grinding in the whirly. I knew what I
could be drinking and started looking into coffee pots. That is when I found
Sweet Maria's and this list! and subsequently became more educated than ever
before. I have bought 2 drip brew coffee makers since March. The first was a
Capresso MT500 that brews at 200F into a thermal carafe. Then I bought a
30.00 Cuisinart burr grinder from Costco which worked fine until I wanted to
make espresso. Then based on Tom's review and instructions, I bought a
Technivorm KBTS coffee maker from sweet Maria's and have never looked back.
In my opinion, if you only intended to brew into a filtered drip brewer,
then a less expensive grinder would do. If however, you plan to use a
vaccuum brewer or French Press then the consistant grind that a better (more
expensive) burr grinder gives you will be better. I think from what you have
described, convenience is a primary concern and a good high temp coffee
maker will be the most convenient first step and offer the greatest return
for you and John. I have since purchased all the makings for an RK drum
roaster as well as an espresso maker (Rancilio Silvia) and better grinder
(Rancilio Rocky) but I get carried away with most endeavors. I consider
myself a life long learner and the idea of coffee roasting appeals to me
because it is and always will be a dynamic thing which I find stimulating.
Tom and Maria make this so much more enjoyable because of their unique web
site. I also believe deeply in the strength of small business and want to
support their efforts for what they give to me. 
	 
	OBTW any time I have to leave the house in the morning without "my"
coffee, I stop at McDonald's (right across from $tarbuck$) and get a large
cup of their coffee. No senior discount yet though =)
	 
	Regards,
	Vince
	
	On 6/10/06, miKe mcKoffee  wrote: 
		(Replying onList 'cuz brewing methods common topic and the
more input the
		better)
		
		Many will contend that a quality grinder is the MOST
important link in 
		getting a good coffee brew, any brewing method, and I don't
disagree!-) I
		would not waste money on a sub $100 electric grinder of any
ilk. I'll let
		others jump in with recommendations. Though most drippers
brew too cool, so 
		they don't help any either brewing a "dull" flavor muted
cup, and you going
		to pour over where you can control the water temp a good
move. With fresh
		roasted, properly rested, brewed at 200f or so at the coffee
grinds you may 
		be surprised in the improvement even with our current
grinder, with better
		grinder further taste improvements incremental.
		
		BTW, they are many a "Senior" homeroaster on the List so I
don't think you 
		need be concerned with your taste buds being over the
hill!-)
		
		Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
		URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
	http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm		Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path.
To know I must
		first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each
Personal enlightenment
		found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who
have gone before.
		
		       From: Rose Lee Geiger
[mailto:roselee.geiger]
		       Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 5:31 PM
		       To: miKe mcKoffee 
		       Subject: Re: About the Pineapple Macadamia Nut
Up-Side-Down Coconut
		Rum Cake
		
		       I KNOW we're going to enjoy it!  Macadamia nuts,
Pineapple, Coconut,
		and RUM to boot!  WOW!  I can't wait to get the skillet . .
. I was the only 
		bidder, and got it for $89.  Thanks for the added baking
tips . . . they've
		been added to the recipe.  Can I pick your brain for another
item? . . .
		Since we have YET to roast a coffee bean, or even know for
sure if we ever 
		will . . . we LOVE good coffee, and just rec'd two pounds of
Tom's special
		roasted beans from last Monday's roasting.  (one pound of
Kenya decaf that
		we are still wondering about and one pound of Uganda Organic
Bugisu that we 
		like very much)  I'm REALLY concerned that our coffee pot is
one of our
		weakest links, so I'm going to experiment with some of Tom's
cone filters.
		PLUS, our little Braun coffee grinder is probably our 2nd
weakest link.  I 
		just found a Melita Burr coffee grinder on ebay, and wonder
if it might be a
		better option? . . . I really hate to invest a bunch of
money in coffee
		equipment until we're convinced that we can enjoy our
breakfasts a whole lot 
		more than we already do.  The more I read this list, the
more I wonder if
		we're not too old to become TRUE coffee connoisseurs.  If
our taste buds
		have deteriorated to the same degree as the rest of our
bodies, maybe we 
		should stick to a McDonald's "Senior" cup of coffee.  Oh MY!
Anyhow, we
		welcome your advice . . . Nana Rose and Grand Dad John


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