My Cory Electric is perhaps 60 years old. Grinds wonderfully for drip. Just hope it lasts... Don't be satisfied for the short run... Brett On 6/12/06, Peter Schmidt wrote: <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast Zassman
Another quality grinder at a decent price would be the Mazzer grinders on Ebay sold by TagEx. It may end up costing you as much as 250-300 for a Major or SJ (you would need to buy new burrs, hopper lid, doser lid), they may not look too pretty (used), and they are huge and heavy, but you would have a workhorse. If the huge Mazzers are overkill..... Another good grinder is the Baratza Virtuoso from what I hear, and they are around 200 bucks. They are better than SMP, probably closer to the quality of a Rocky. Reviews can be found here:http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/baratzavirtuoso-james On 6/12/06, Michael Wade wrote: <Snip>
I use the SMP and love it. It took me a little while to home in on the optimal settings for each brewing style but now that I have I am amazed each time I use it at the job it does. With my FP I get virtually no fines in the cup whatsoever, yet I use a finer grind setting than I did with my Cuisinart Burr. When I do pourover I am able to adjust steep time (total pour through time) by increments of 10 seconds predictably and reliably. I knew from following forums that the grinder was important to cup quality but I had absolutely no idea how crucial it was until I upgraded from a whirly to the Cuisinart Burr. The difference was staggering. Unfortunately the amount of dust in the grind with the Cuisinart grew substantially within just weeks of purchase. As amazed as I was with the quality jump from whirly to cheap burr, I was just as impressed by the jump in quality from cheap burr to the SMP. On 6/12/06, Michael Wade wrote: <Snip> -- Don
Regarding the grinder discussion, I'd like to chime in and say that I noticed a difference in my coffee brewed using coffee ground from a whirley-blade and coffee ground from my Mazzer. However, I do think you can get a decent ground from a whirley blade if you agitate and pulse and ensure the little hopper is full enough of beans. For me this means it is about as full as you get get it without it starting to spill over with the lid off. That said, a good grinder is just worth it. However, I don't think its necessary to have in order to get a sense for how much better fresh roast can be than *$s. I bought some *$s for work the other day because I wanted to give my roasting a rest for a while during my SC/TO building process. (This weekend I hope to assemble it and try it out). The stuff is obviously from Guatemala or thereabouts because of the heavy dutch/sweet chocolate flavor, but they roasted it so dark it flat out tastes burnt. I think it would have been good coffee if they hadn't roasted it so dark. I wonder why they do that. Overall the coffee was actually okay, because the chocolate was still there, but it just made me ponder why anyone would go and do that. Heck, if you want some roast character, its your breakfast blend; find another origin that gives it to you and blend it in, so you don't burn the chocolate. Sigh. On another topic, has anyone tried experimenting with resting ground coffee? Wondering if you can take a coffee that needs a five day rest and grind it on the 0-day such that its ready the next day or within 2 days... Anyone tried this, or does it just make the coffee stale? -- Steven Hay hay.steve -AT- gmail.com Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."
On 6/13/06, Steve Hay wrote: <Snip> I wonder if they burn it intentionally, to intentionally mask variety character with a burnt taste the *$ regular customers identify as the flavor they are used to? Brian
TO some of us $200 is not a decently priced grinder, i am trying my hardest to allow my wife to let me get a doserless rocky, but she doesn't see why when our coffee ground with a c-Mill for the FP is so superior to any other coffee she or our friends have ever had. Would a more consistant grind produce better results, sure but to what degree, i dont think it would be much of a discernable difference, I also have an older model Zass that i use sometimes on trips for the FP ( i always use it for the Espresso machine) and really there is no difference, and yes my Zass grinds very evenly. I think a blind tasting would be in order. Someday i will have my rocky and then we will see i guess. On 6/13/06, Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> -- "Good night, and Good Coffee"
On 6/13/06, Woody DeCasere wrote: <Snip> You ought to try that blind tasting BEFORE you pony up $200 for the new grinder. Imagine your dismay if it isn't a lot better and you already bought it! Safe Journeys and Sweet Music Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)
Even if you manage to get a (comparatively) fresh batch of their lighter roasts (like Light Note Blend), when it's served in-store it's brewed double strength so it has that familiar "corporate" taste that they think their customers expect. Such is franchising. Back when they had their Encore mail-order program, they'd ship Priority Mail on the same day they roasted and the coffee arrived outgassed and ready to rock. I used to get their Light Note (and in summer, Gazebo, which I used for espresso till I discovered Caffe d'Arte--- way before I was introduced to Intelligentsia, Metropolis, and eventually homeroasting), and it was always fresh. The beginning of the end came when a batch arrived stale; not surprisingly, they announced they were ending the Encore program a week later. On Jun 13, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> Sandy www.sandyandina.com
--Apple-Mail-14-113624065 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset -ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed A $65 Bodum Antigua will blow that C-Mill out of the water and do ya just fine for brewed coffee. Heresy, I know. Personally, I would save the Rocky for espresso--nice to not have to constantly adjust the burrs for different methods, just a click or two either way for the weather and bean freshness. On Jun 13, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Woody DeCasere wrote: <Snip> Sandy www.sandyandina.com --Apple-Mail-14-113624065 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset O-8859-1 A $65 Bodum Antigua will blow = that C-Mill out of the water and do ya just fine for brewed coffee. = Heresy, I know. Personally, I would save the Rocky for espresso--nice = to not have to constantly adjust the burrs for different methods, just a = click or two either way for the weather and bean = freshness. On Jun 13, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Woody DeCasere = wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. $200 is a lot of money for a lot of people. A Solis grinder can be found = for about ½ that price. If you let Maria know, sometimes she has lightly = used, refurbished units at a more respectable price too. Terry On Jun 13, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Woody DeCasere wrote: TO some of us $200 is not a decently priced grinder, i am trying my = hardest to allow my wife to let me get a doserless rocky, but she doesn't see = why when our coffee ground with a c-Mill for the FP is so superior to any = other coffee she or our friends have ever had. Would a more consistant grind produce better results, sure but to what degree, i dont think it would = be much of a discernable difference, I also have an older model Zass that i = use sometimes on trips for the FP ( i always use it for the Espresso = machine) and really there is no difference, and yes my Zass grinds very evenly. I think a blind tasting would be in order. Someday i will have my rocky = and then we will see i guess.
For a budget minded coffee lover, check out an older, wooden box mill - Zassenhaus / Trosser - on eBay. Spend the $30-35 it takes, and enjoy budge= t minded luxury. If the manual grinding is getting to you, check out an older electric grinder, such as the Cory. I have owned (and still own) several of each. They fill the requirement very well. And I have a Rocky Doserless too... Now here's one concept: My Rocky takes more work, because I have to measur= e how much beans, or jsut go with a single selection for several grind sessions... My manual grinders I know exactly how much to put in the hopper, and it's easy to swap out varieties if you want to brew selected cups... Regards, Brett On 6/13/06, javafool wrote: <Snip> d <Snip> y <Snip> t <Snip> uld <Snip> i <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast Zassman