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Topic: Why do you home roast, and justifying expenditures (16 msgs / 426 lines)
1) From: Woody DeCasere
There are several reasons why i home roast.
#1 Best damn coffee in the world period, i may be delusional, but ill put my
coffee against any ones, most of this is thanks to Tom and Maria and the
great job they do getting us the best available coffee.
#2 a distant #2 is it's cost effective which blows my mind, best coffee ever
and i am getting it for how much???
#3 the experience of it all, i really enjoy watching the beans go through
the transformation from raw to roasted, smells great, is fascinating to
watch and then after a patient wait drinking the goodness you have crafted
#4 the ability to share great coffee with friends and make believers out of
them
those factors in mind, i don't see spending $100 on 3lbs of coffee, if i
wanted to spend that much i would go to *$ and buy a ventricle skinny half
calf or whatever
to each his own, but don't try to make someone feel less of a citizen
because they wont buy the overpriced coffee. Maybe if i had a huge
disposable income i would say why not and pull the trigger and chalk it up
to the experience.
-- 
"Good night, and Good Coffee"

2) From: Sandy Andina
1. Because it's fun--and alchemy. I love to play with my food.
2. Control, control, control--over variety, degree of roast, and  
above all freshness.
3. Cost--cheaper than its only equal (pro-roasted from nearby  
roasteries)--half the price and perfectly fresh.
4. The smell is AWESOME.
5. The taste is even better.
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Sandy
www.sandyandina.com

3) From: javafool
I home roast because it gets me off to a great start every day. This
morning, a very rich Ethiopian FTO Yirgacheffe cofftea is getting me
started.
I can't afford a yacht, a 10,000 sq. ft. mansion, or a lot of other
outrageously expensive luxuries. But even Bill Gates and Oprah can't buy
finer coffee that I enjoy every day.

4) From: conradarms
I home roast because it is so much fun and of course home roasted coffee is the best.  I have been able to roast and taste coffees from all over the world.  I get up in the a.m. and look at several batches of coffee I have roasted that are in vacuum sealed jars.  The jars are numbered, so I get out my log book and match them to the roasted bean jars.  I feel like a kid in a candy store trying to make a decision which beans to grind and brew.  I grind the beans I have chosen, measure the amount of grinds I'll need, boil the water and then pour it over the beans in my swiss gold one cupper.  Then I enjoy, the taste, the smell.........  Really I enjoy the whole process to make my morning cup of coffee.  I also roast so I can share this great pleasure I have for home roasting with my family and friends.  I use my Chemex when I have company over, as well as giving some of my roasted to family and friends.  Everyone I have shared this experience with gets as excited as I do about h
 ome roasting..............

5) From: Brett Mason
I roast because I save so much money:
   1. I have invested less in roasters than Folger's has...
   2. I have less espresso equipment than Starbucks does...
   3. I have fewer coffee makers than my company with its 17000 employees
   owns...
I should be able to retire with all the money I have saved...
Back to the BBQ, to roast again...
Brett
On 6/17/06, conradarms  wrote:
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Regards,
Brett Mason
HomeRoast
   Zassman

6) From: Steve Hay
On 6/17/06, Woody DeCasere  wrote:
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Here is why I home roast.
#1: It produces the best coffee I've ever tasted, period.  I've not tried
Tom's preroast, nor some of the other places that offer fresh coffee
solutions, but my home roast beats out anything I can find in the store, and
in many coffee houses (certainly all the ones in my area right now).
#2: The price is not much more than buying regular whole bean coffee, even
after the necessary expenditures.  It might even be cheaper.  Since it only
takes a few minutes to do it up, its worth the extra effort.
#3: I am obsessive over all things regarding flavor, whether it is alcohol
(scotch, beer, wine), regular liquids (coffee, tea, mate), or foods (Thai,
Indian, Sushi).  Therefore, it fits a part of my personality.
#4: I am an engineer who doesn't get to do any real engineering at work.  It
is fun to do some at home.  Coffee roasting presents some interesting
challenges that are fun to work through.
#5:  I am an idiosyncratic bastard.  By this I mean that for some reason, I
like to do just about anything different than most people.  Its not like I
try to be this way, it just ends up working out this way somehow.  You know
that old idiom about putting pants on one leg at a time?  I've been known to
do simultaneous pants-putting-on.
-- 
Steven Hay
hay.steve -AT- gmail.com
Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural
numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural
number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."

7) From: Les
1.  I home roast because it is fun.
2. I home roast because even though it is simple most people are in
awe that I can roast coffee and it tastes better than anything they
have ever had.
3.  I hope roast because I can enjoy a fine delicate Kona or Central
American, or I can go to a rustic DP from Ethiopia or Yemen and
everything in between.
4.  I home roast because I am in control of my coffee, not some guy at
the coffee shop.  Tom offers us about 70 coffees all the time and he
isn't the only broker.  That you could get through all he has is
beyond me, but I have enjoyed coffees from other places.
5.  It is a hobby that can be enjoyed on and off through the week
without having to go to a place to enjoy it.  It is cheaper than golf
or trap shooting or tennis.
6.  It is a passion that can be shared with family and friends.  Dad
got a half pound of Carmen Estates 1800 meters for Father's Day.
7.  I have made many good friends on this list.
Les
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8) From: Michael Wade
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Why do I home roast?  
For the coffee, of course!  I can have world-class coffee, better than =
anything I can buy, right in the privacy of my home.
It's an interesting hobby that is really quite inexpensive compared to =
airplanes, boats, fast cars, weird lifestyles, etc.  It's got =
everything; technology, art, self-expression, mystery, even a little =
voodoo thrown in to boot.
Oddly, I don't find many converts to homeroasting.  While many people =
enjoy my coffee, most of them express the same sentiment: "That's an =
awful lot ot trouble for a cup of coffee!"  ...and that's just for the =
process of brewing it in a french press!  Philistines!  Barbarians!  =
(Actually, just average people with a different set of priorities.)  I =
do secretly get a little annoyed when I hand someone a fantastic cup of =
Ethiopian Harar and they pour milk in it, but I pride myself on not =
allowing them to hear me grind my teeth...
I don't feel I have to justify a damn thing to anyone but myself and in =
serious cases, my wife.  I work, I have always worked, I take care of my =
responsibilities and tolerate and encourage my partner's quirks and =
foibles, and enjoy her tolerance of mine.  Besides, she likes my coffee!
We both go by the principle that when you stop making new plans or =
learning new things, you're giving your body permission to begin the =
death process.  We're not wealthy in terms of monetary income, but in =
terms of the freedom we grant ourselves and each other to pursue our =
dreams we are wealthy (and grateful) beyond measure.
I did purchase one of the Panama Auction Sets.  I don't feel that it =
makes me a better citizen, or a better anything.   I bought it out of =
curiosity on the one hand, and out of respect and admiration for what =
Thompson Owen is contributing to the homeroast coffee industry on the =
other.  He stepped up and plunked his money down and I wanted to help =
cover his bet in appreciation for all the pleasure he's given me over =
the years.
(now if I can just work up the courage to roast it...)
Respectfully,
Michael Wade

9) From: Barbara C. Greenspon
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Mine is in the hottop now, and its at about 287 degrees F.  I'm reading 
these letters for encouragement.  Good thing I'm a good "touch typist".  
I'm staring at the time, the temp, and the color while constantly 
sniffing as I type this! 
I did want to be sure to join with Michael in thanking Tom and Sweet 
Maria's for this opportunity -- and all the others.  If I hadn't found 
Sweet Maria's, I wounder how deeply I would have gone with this.  
Probably not to far.
Happy father's day to all you fathers!!
Barbara
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10) From: Turbosimba
Welllllllllll, for me, it is simply the taste of the coffees I roast at home. 
PERIOD.  I love to experiment and taste different varietals, then further 
experiment by roasting them to different levels. I've ruined very few roasts. 
Mostly, I get wonderful results, and I'm still a rank amateur. The learing curve 
is not at all steep.  Sure it is a bit of trouble, but after, even ONE cup of 
home roast, I knew that what I had been drinking before, even the BEST of what 
I had been drinking, was positively STALE compared to fresh roasted coffee I 
can produce in ten minutes right in my kitchen. 
Oh, and if cost is a consideration, you certainly DON'T have to go all the 
way to a $100 Best of Panama set to get wonderful coffee. The proper $5.00 
Brazil, roasted correctly, can be one of the best cups of coffee you ever tasted.
Jeff

11) From: Wendy Sarrett
 I agree with all that Les said, especially #1 and #2.   #2 in 
particular.   I love giving homeroast as gifts, bringing it to parties, 
etc.  In fact, someone did me a favor the other day and it was so much 
fun to roast up a batch of Kenyan decaft  (she can't have caffine) and 
give it to her as a "thank you."   When I give people a some homeroast 
they truely enjoy it. I guess it's a similar thing to what would give me 
the most pleasure if I were ever able to own a "classic car."   Watching 
people enjoying looking at it!
Wendy
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12) From: Walter R. Basil
If it's something I really love, I'll pay whatever it costs. I have  
all the time in the world to do what I want. I have no debt (even  
both cars are paid for) and a good income to support my toys. Coffee  
paraphernalia happens to fall into my Toys category.
I guess the bottom line for me is, I don't have to justify it. ;-)
As for the cost-effectiveness of it all, There really isn't for me,  
compared to the MIllstone beans I used to buy. About 5 pounds every 2  
weeks at around $6 a pound. $780 per year. And that's an exaggerated  
price. It was really something like $5.49 at the commissary when I  
last bought any. The total (include shipping) cost of the iRoast 2  
was around $200 - give or take, can't remember off hand. I spend  
about $30 every 2 weeks on coffee from Sweet Maria's (including  
shipping). Yes, the coffee is cheaper pound for pound, but now I pay  
for shipping too. That still comes out to $780. Add $200 for the  
roaster. No saving for me there, but the quality of the coffee I  
drink now is much better, and I've go the money to spare.
-Walt
--
Walter R Basil
www.basilweb.net
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:44:41 -0400, Woody DeCasere"  
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13) From: Angelo
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone has to justify what 
they do with their own money...And to whom? People who spend theirs 
on "approved" products?
I know a woman who says, incredulously,"You paid how much for a 
coffee grinder(Rocky)?" This same person defends (justifies) buying a 
$1000 handbag because she spent ONLY $350 for it.
Basically, if it's your money, no justifications are necessary. I'll 
let the Great Accountant in the Sky sort it out...
A+

14) From: raymanowen
I knew the day would come when the Avionics and FAA R&R studies would pay
off. My older brother flew in the AF and American Airlines. I flew soldering
irons. We decided to form a new company- the FAA Company.
Our product line includes chewing gum- FAA gum.
For anyone who questioned why I would work all night on a Heathkit or the
Corvair or the Jag, I'd offer a stick of that gum.
For those that say, "Hmmm- I smell coffee- got a pot on?"
"Aw, look- it's empty" [The TV pot is always empty, unless I'm brewing]
"Huh, that's odd-looking- you brew coffee in that thing?[TV]"
"No, that's for specialty beans. I don't have any ground right now."
"My Gawd- is that a grinder?"[Mazzer- it's kinda obvious, with the huge
hopper]
"Yes, but it's dangerous- see?" [That finger on my right hand is partly
missing.]
"How much did you spend on all this equipment?"
"How would you like a pack of this gum?"
I have a QA gig in the morning- 73 and
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?

15) From: Scott Marquardt
LOL
Funniest phrase of the month award, for you.
My early impressions of Charbucks were that the PBTC were pretty pretentious
with all that argot -- like, refusing to serve you unless you passed
linguistic muster. Then when you'd jump through the hoops they'd serve you a
cup of burnt coffee. I mean, really -- who's the idiot in this equation?
;-)
- Scott
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16) From: Justin Marquez
On 6/17/06, Sandy Andina  wrote:
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Before homeroasting, the coffee taste never lived up to the coffee
brewing aroma. Now,  it does!
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)


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