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Topic: Lurker on the Food Saver List (16 msgs / 422 lines)
1) From: Brett Mason
I am new to the Food Saver List, so please forgive my questions.
What is the best way to roast a food saver?
Does Food Saver need to be rested?
Are there African Food Savers as well as Indonesian Food Savers, or are they
all the same?
How do you get the Food Saver into the Popcorn Popper?
OK, I think I solved that one.  Can anyone help me remove a Food Saver from
my Popcorn Popper?
Is there a way to buy gourmet Food Savers?
Can anyone point me to a Home Roasters list for Coffee?
Brett

2) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Yah, and besides that, there's all that talk about grinders, and 
espresso makers, and filters, and brewing systems.
Why can't people just write about Home Roasters?
Dave S.
:-P
Brett Mason wrote:
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3) From: miKe mcKoffee
Darn home roasters keep interfering with the technical aspects of the
FoodSaver instead discussing ways to use them for coffee like vac bagging
greens for longer storage, vac bagging and freezing greens for even longer
storage while maintaining acidity, vac bagging and/or vac jarring roasted
coffee (room temp and freezing), vac'ing little bags of coffee for taking to
work or when traveling both whole roasted beans and ground roasted beans...
Darn home roasters talking about coffee uses of a FoodSaver instead of
something like how to lower the residual oxygen content by holding down the
over ride and vac'ing longer than the factory preset. (longer vac'ing only
available on some models of course, but any FS Lister knows that)
What does a popcorn popper have to do with a FoodSaver anyway? What does a
FoodSaver have to do with coffee anyway? What does a popcorn popper have to
do with coffee anyway? Oh, that's right, both a popcorn popper and a
FoodSaver can be used in relation to coffee at various stages from green to
cup. I think now I get it.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
	From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Brett Mason
	Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 1:29 PM
	To: homeroast
	Subject: +Lurker on the Food Saver List
	
	I am new to the Food Saver List, so please forgive my questions.  
	 
	What is the best way to roast a food saver?  
	 
	Does Food Saver need to be rested?  
	 
	Are there African Food Savers as well as Indonesian Food Savers, or
are they all the same?
	 
	How do you get the Food Saver into the Popcorn Popper?
	 
	OK, I think I solved that one.  Can anyone help me remove a Food
Saver from my Popcorn Popper?
	 
	Is there a way to buy gourmet Food Savers?
	 
	Can anyone point me to a Home Roasters list for Coffee?
	 
	Brett

4) From: Barry Luterman
Your not serious are you? Please tell me this is "Tongue-in-cheek"

5) From: National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
Barry:  It is OK.  You do know Brett, unless he controls the content of this
list, we gets antsy. He is having another Prozac moment, right now. Some
folk apparently forgot to send their post to Brett first so he can edit
according to his wishes.
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
info

6) From: John B. Webster
Barry:  It is OK.  You do know Brett, unless he controls the content of this
list, we gets antsy. He is having another Prozac moment, right now. Some
folk apparently forgot to send their post to Brett first so he can edit
according to his wishes.
John B. Webster
Managing Director
National Prison & Sentencing Consultants, Inc.
310 Bourne Avenue
East Providence, RI 02916
401-694-1294
Los Angeles  323-924-5154
www.nationalprisonconsultants.com
info

7) From: javafool
This is how Home Roasters roast Home Roasters. Not as tasteful as good
coffee though.

8) From: Aaron
wow. talk about the civet leaving a fresh offering, I see that John is back.
Then again it has been a few months since we had a real good bitch fight 
on the list.... does Brett take the bait, or does peace and tranquility 
prevail?........  the anxiety, I can't stands it.....  I better go git 
another lithium milkshake.
On a lighter note.  I had the privelage today of having a nice hot 
steaming cup of IHOP coffee. Ill admit, since I started roasting my own, 
this has really been the first time, in a good year probably that I have 
drank non HR coffee.  At first I thought folks on the list were being a 
bit snooty when they made comments of . ewWWW upon their similar 
experiences.  I humbly apologise for that rash 'label' and wish to add 
myself to the ewwwWW list, along with the subtitle of ICK...added as 
well.  I figured that well, I used to drink the stuff on occasion and 
thought it was 'good' by my standards back then at least it should be 
drinkable, just not the best..  Now, I am critiquing it and tasting 
every defect... too old, over extracted, burnt, oxidised, etc etc.
Perhaps they just had a 'bad coffee' day.  or do others find themselves 
once being able to drink a certain 'coffee' and now finding it really 
terrible.
One other thing, let me get this back on topic.
Food Saver bags.  I have seen what is it 3 or 4 major brands of food 
savers, all selling 'their' bags.  Of course there are the generic bags 
too, but even they seem to be aimed towards a specific machine.  Ok this 
is a really dumb question but, can you use the bags from one food saver 
brand in another?  I mean, besides for possibly a small size difference, 
is there anything really BIG different between them that this could 
cause a problem?
Finally, the things are PLASTIC.... they are some sort of plastic,  HPE, 
PPE, Urethane,... whatever, they are some sort of plastic, probably one 
of the common ones like polyethelyne or polypropolyne........ I wonder 
if one can buy plastic sheeting of a suitable thickness and just cut and 
seal that to size with satisfactory results and cheaper.
any else play around with this at all.
Aaron

9) From: Tom Bellhouse
I have enjoyed discussing roasting with Brett on this list.  I have
learned nothing from you, John.  Perhaps you could focus on coffee
roasting (and ancillary topics) and avoid the interpersonal snipes?
Tom in GA

10) From: miKe mcKoffee
FoodSaver is a specific brand, there are other home vacuum systems with
different brand names. Different brand machines require different type of
bags. FoodSaver uses channeled food grade multi-ply freezer/boiling
water/microwave safe bags. Others use unchanneled bags of unknown layering
and usage flexibility but they are not interchangeable. Different type
system used to vacuum the bag.
I have tried cheaper "clone" FoodSaver bags over the years but found them to
have a much higher leak defect/broken seal/or puncture rate.
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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11) From: Aaron
Thank you for the information Mike on the bags.
I have used the clone bags myself, (well the generic rolls of bag stuff) 
and generally I custom size them to my needs which often includes making 
all 4 of the walls on them.  I have had a few leak but figured it was 
because I crinkled it or something when sealing them, but Ill keep an 
eye on them now and see if I notice a big difference between them and 
the brand name for bag problems.
Aaron

12) From: Woody DeCasere
cmon people now smile on your brother everybody get together......
-- 
"Good night, and Good Coffee"

13) From:
Aaron,
you always make me laugh...
bitch fight indeed!
Bait, bait, there was bait!!
ginny
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14) From: Ken Mary
Aaron 

15) From: Aaron
Thanks for the information on the foodsaver bags and their clone cousins 
everyone.  I better stick with the real thing instead of messing 
around.  Sometimes the better mousetrap has already been built!
Aaron

16) From: Mike Chester
I am not sure what you got, but I know that the Foodsaver brand sealers that 
they sell at Wal Mart and Sam's Club are specially made for them so they can 
be sold cheaply.  They are not made with the same parts as other Food Savers 
and generally do not hold up as well.  Some of the parts that are metal in a 
similar looking model are plastic in the WM model.  Also many people have 
said that they had to fight with them to get warranty service on those 
special machines.  I bought one from Sam's and it broke down after a year. 
I researched other brands and ended up buying the Game Saver model sold at 
Cabela's.  The salesman there said that it was their most reliable model and 
it appears that he was telling the truth.  The quality is much better and I 
have had no problem with this model.
From what I have heard a lot of the appliances sold at WM are "special" 
models that are made cheaply so that they can offer them at lower prices.  I 
would think that the manufacturers would hesitate to give themselves a bad 
name this way, but WMs volume is so huge that they are willing to do almost 
anything to get the contracts.
Mike Chester
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