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Topic: Giant Trosser vs Zass review (3 msgs / 108 lines)
1) From: Alchemist John
Well, this one is meant to be bolted to the counter also.  It has 
four pre drilled holes waiting for bolts.  OTOH, a moderate hand to 
the right of top center (the center spins as you grind) keeps it into 
place very nicely. I am going to do this as a compare/contrast to my 
Zass DG169.
The Zass holds about 45 g of coffee in the hopper, and the drawer 
about 1/2 of that.  The GT (Giant Trosser) holds close to 2 lbs and 
most of which should fit in its drawer.
The Zass adjustment screw is coarse threaded in comparison to the 
GT.  "Espresso" grind on the Zass is about 1/4 turn from touching - 
it is 1/2 on the GT.  A 1/16 to 1/8 is needed to tweak an espresso to 
ristretto on the Zass.  Up to a 1/4 turn is needed on the GT.
The Zass has the adjustment screw on top and is markable and visual 
(good thing), but is known to drift.  The GT's is underneath.  It is 
easy to get to, but you have to adjust by feel.  Since it is a fine 
thread, this is not as bad as it could be.  Lots of room (4" drawer) 
and the nut does not appear to wander due to a spring tension.
Zass arm grinds in a horizontal plane - the GT vertical
The bottom of the Zass "floats" in center, and has been known to 
wobble or be a touch off center.  The GT is centered and held in 
place with a metal brace.  It would appear to be completely centered 
on mine.  There is no inconsistency of sound as I go finer and 
finer.  Eventually the burrs simply mesh and it stops moving.
Where the grind is rather nice on the Zass, it is a step up on the 
GT.  I can grind finer (read less fines) on the GT for the same shot 
times.  The GT will go to Turkish grind without a problem.
The Zass takes me about 2 minutes and 150 revolutions to grind 45g of 
coffee on the drip setting.  The GT takes about 45 seconds and 60 
revolutions.  Did I mention 50% or so larger burrs on the 
GT.  Likewise, about 45 seconds for an 18 g espresso shot on the 
Zass, and 15-20 seconds on the GT.
The Zass is a nice shiny brass and walnut construction.  The GT is 
Army green and cast iron or metal at least.  It as a light metal drawer.
Zass - 2 lbs 6 oz.  GT 20 lbs 7 oz.
questions? bueller? bueller?  questions? :-)
So, how many people picked on up and how to they compare to mine?
At 08:23 7/5/2006, you wrote:
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John Nanci
AlChemist at large
Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.chocolatealchemy.com/

2) From: Brian Kamnetz
Alchemist John,
Thanks for your interesting and thorough review of the GT. I feel even
better about buying it. I liked your comparison of appearances of the
Zass 169 DG (I have one of those too) and the GT. The GT, 20 pounds of
army green and cast iron, reminds me of a comment of a friend many
years ago, to the effect that if he ever got a dog, he would get the
funniest looking dog he could find. That way, no matter how bad things
got, he would alwys have something to laught at. Nothing like the
Giant Trosser, but still, with it's 20 pounds of army-green cast iron
etc, I laugh out loud nearly every time I look at it. Good to know
that it is not only entertaining but an excellent performer as well.
Brian
On 7/6/06, Alchemist John  wrote:
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3) From: Rich Adams


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